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BumRushDaShow

(157,280 posts)
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 06:55 AM Friday

Dr. Oz under fire after declaring war on the sick: 'Won't tolerate it anymore'

Source: Raw Story

July 24, 2025 6:59PM ET


Dr. Mehmet Oz, President Donald Trump’s Administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, declared that the administration will no longer “tolerate” what he called a culture that makes it “easy to be sick in America.” Framing childhood illness as a failure of parenting and physical activity rather than medical need, Oz linked obesity to national security and warned that industries would be forced to caooperate—or face government retaliation.

Oz—often called a conspiracy theorist who has been widely criticized for promoting “quack” products—appeared to endorse an authoritarian vision of public health, suggesting that under Trump and Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Americans would no longer be allowed to remain “sick” without consequences, and threatened industry with demands to either cooperate or face retribution.

He also railed against what he called the “over-medicalization” of American society—particularly among children—but failed to distinguish between conditions driven by behavior and those rooted in biology or beyond individual control.

“You’re diagnosing problems that probably should be dealt with with the parents,” he told Fox News Business, referring to children’s health, “or by going out and playing, or just dealing with issues and teaching kids how to mental resilience [sic].”

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/dr-oz-2673754890/

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Dr. Oz under fire after declaring war on the sick: 'Won't tolerate it anymore' (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Friday OP
Dr. Oz practicing Darwinism bucolic_frolic Friday #1
Darwin wouldn't approve, but Heinrich Himmler would be all in. Ray Bruns Friday #18
That sort of thinking has been called "Social Darwinism." SidneyR Friday #57
I blame Oprah... buzzycrumbhunger Friday #2
I don't JustAnotherGen Friday #6
Blaming her for forcefeeding them to the public, for the constant exposure. niyad Friday #9
And Abstractartist Friday #34
That's real?! YodaMom2 Friday #56
- Lemon Lyman Friday #58
No doubt it's AI, it's SOOO obvious, especially if you look and listen closely... blue_jay Friday #70
My mum used to watch her daily buzzycrumbhunger Friday #72
Thank you! obamanut2012 Friday #12
I'm just tired of it JustAnotherGen Friday #20
I blame Fox "news" for Trump and so do many Americans. nt delisen Friday #24
I blame JustAnotherGen Friday #37
And misogyny! HappyLarge Friday #62
"No one is blaming Fox news or MSNBC for Krasnov" mdbl Friday #25
No I don't JustAnotherGen Friday #36
ok, I see the discussion centered around Oprah mdbl Friday #44
Without her platform, they would be nothing . . . hatrack Friday #15
How did she know JustAnotherGen Friday #17
Dr Phil also BigMin28 Friday #51
Without her edhopper Friday #22
And who do we blame for Trump's fame? yardwork Friday #27
NBC edhopper Friday #61
Blame Oprah's viewers for not showing any discretion. yardwork Friday #26
Oprah understood her audience, and she gave them what they wanted. sop Friday #30
Just as Trump did. yardwork Friday #33
Don't forget about Maryann Williamson BonnieJW Friday #29
I just checked his bio. .learned that oprah's production company was niyad Friday #42
Oprah is a business and a person. A big business. twodogsbarking Friday #54
I never liked Oprah, I always found her grandstanding very self-serving Skittles Friday #68
Stupid out of touch rich asshole SSJVegeta Friday #3
It's so convenient to blame the sick, but how about the Cloudhopper Friday #4
Not just a doctor, but a cardiothoracic surgeon. niyad Friday #39
Ben Carson BigMin28 Friday #52
He's nuckin' futs. twodogsbarking Friday #5
Just an excuse The Madcap Friday #7
Yep. This is all just laying the groundwork for them to do much worse later on. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Friday #8
This is what worries me, tooi, OldBaldy... slightlv Friday #65
EXACTLY!!! niyad Friday #10
You can't be sick Marthe48 Friday #11
God help us orangecrush Friday #13
Oz IS a disease... GiqueCee Friday #14
According to Dr. Oz, my late husband's illness was HIS fault??? ProudMNDemocrat Friday #16
Because parents hildegaard28 Friday #19
Oz, he ain't no wizard! Blackjackdavey Friday #21
I wish there was a rule that said no rich people can be in a cabinet or run for office tulipsandroses Friday #23
That's the problem. yardwork Friday #28
He profits from sick people azureblue Friday #31
Wow. I before checking the link, I thought this was The Onion. But.. CousinIT Friday #32
Good luck Ozzy with getting American industry to cooperate. Diamond_Dog Friday #35
How rich are Oz and his 'peers'? pfitz59 Friday #38
"How rich are Oz and his 'peers'?" BumRushDaShow Friday #41
Dr Oz is part of MAHA bmichaelh Friday #40
You shouldn't automatically discount Blackjackdavey Friday #59
He needs to just relax with some crudites Bayard Friday #43
The complaint of the idle-rich billionaire class: Aristus Friday #45
"diagnosing problems that probably should be dealt with with the parents," chouchou Friday #46
Attention: Everyone who is in the position to be physically near him each day. OldBaldy1701E Friday #47
Broken clock there. ananda Friday #48
no wonder 1 million covid deaths are swept under the carpet DBoon Friday #49
Dr. Oz, Dr. Phil, and RFK Jr. are the unholy trinity of the Dump Administration Blue Owl Friday #50
Good old Biblical Faith Healing instead of demon medicine. usonian Friday #53
This sounds like a war is brewing - a war on fat people NH Ethylene Friday #55
I guess Oz (is he really still a Dr?) doesn't care that his career is over once we oust the fat orange pig. Greybnk48 Friday #60
Perfect Genes mkp Friday #63
He really should have his medical licensed pulled and then told to go and pound sand............ turbinetree Friday #64
Total asshole. Thanks Oprah. Evolve Dammit Friday #66
Oz wants the US to practice social darwinism sakabatou Friday #67
Of course. The polar opposite of what we need to be doing. Health care in this country is done and anyone who still Karasu Friday #69
This is so stupid how can people not get sick? kimbutgar Friday #71
When and if we get through this psychosis... lonely bird Saturday #73

bucolic_frolic

(51,617 posts)
1. Dr. Oz practicing Darwinism
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 07:07 AM
Friday

that even Darwin wouldn't approve of.

"no longer be allowed to remain “sick” without consequences"

WTF?? Beat the sick into wellness?? Is he saying illness is a psychological thing?

SidneyR

(164 posts)
57. That sort of thinking has been called "Social Darwinism."
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 11:28 AM
Friday

But it really has nothing to do with Darwin himself.

buzzycrumbhunger

(1,247 posts)
2. I blame Oprah...
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 07:13 AM
Friday

... for force-feeding arseholes like him and "Dr." Phil, and giving them legitimacy. Every other show was a charlatan. 😡

niyad

(125,548 posts)
9. Blaming her for forcefeeding them to the public, for the constant exposure.
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 07:50 AM
Friday

She promotes bs, like her latest, the miraculous himalayan salt diet.

Abstractartist

(285 posts)
34. And
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:29 AM
Friday

And her great friend and world renowned astronaut Gayle King…. That fiasco sure died quickly didn’t it…. Many of these big celeb types are just as much charlatans as the rest.

YodaMom2

(102 posts)
56. That's real?!
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 11:24 AM
Friday

And here I was thinking that Himalayan salt sh*t was AI generated, that she couldn’t possibly be hawking such blatant quackery. But I guess, what with Oz and Phil and the guy who wrote that fake autobiography about his rise from addiction, that I shouldn’t be surprised at all…

Lemon Lyman

(1,502 posts)
58. -
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 11:28 AM
Friday

I agree that she sucks for platforming these 2 douches.

I'm pretty sure the miracle salt thing is total deepfake/AI bullshit. I've seen that video ad pop up on Youtube. It looks like it's not real. It reminds me of the fake Kelly Clarkson gummies weight loss crap.

blue_jay

(84 posts)
70. No doubt it's AI, it's SOOO obvious, especially if you look and listen closely...
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 06:28 PM
Friday

while she did promote them, am sure there are/were more factors and people involved in the decision process made at that time. Also, sadly, fame and money affect people, you know, power corrupts and all that. Not many survive with their basic morals and humanity intact but some do I believe, or at least come back to it, just not enough people do that. She's an easy target for weight loss scammers.

I'm sure you all have noticed there are a sh*t ton of fake AI videos out right now by the way. If it surprises you it's probably a load of BS but worth doing due diligence on all, just to be sure, IMHO.

buzzycrumbhunger

(1,247 posts)
72. My mum used to watch her daily
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 07:28 PM
Friday

Those guys were on frequently, not just once, and both pseudo docs had their own shows thanks to her studio. She did indeed force-feed them to us and bankrolled them into stardom of sorts.

The woman has always bounced from one “great” idea to another, like a ping pong ball. I suspect having to pick her guests five days a week made her weirdly incapable of focusing on one thing for too long, but they were all the most fabulous, fascinating thing as she gushed and sold them to her fans.

Damn, even as a teenager, I was pissed that this crap is what replaced Phil Donohue.

JustAnotherGen

(35,923 posts)
20. I'm just tired of it
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 08:59 AM
Friday

I'm not defending her recent actions which SHE OWN's.

But it borders on 'look what you made me do' . She had an excellent talk show and she did what she needed to do to keep people engaged. It's business. It's not personal.

No one is blaming Fox news or MSNBC for Krasnov. But I'm old enough to remember him being allowed to call into Morning Scum (Joe) and get free campaign air time.

mdbl

(7,017 posts)
25. "No one is blaming Fox news or MSNBC for Krasnov"
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:14 AM
Friday

Don't you think that's a little misplaced both-siderism? Yes you CAN blame Fox. MSNBC has tirelessly tried to expose the underbelly of the cons to the deafness of Magatville.

JustAnotherGen

(35,923 posts)
36. No I don't
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:32 AM
Friday

We aren't blaming black women for the behavior of rich white men. When the Regime falls - she's not bring treated the same way they are.

mdbl

(7,017 posts)
44. ok, I see the discussion centered around Oprah
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:57 AM
Friday

I was just commenting in general. As far as Oprah is concerned, I have been watching her platform really weird people since she started her show in Chicago. I used to think it was useful to expose the weirdos, especially the racist idiots she would host. Unfortunately, it seemed to have the reverse effect on our screwed up American populace. What should have been exposed and left in the fringes has moved mainstream. It's really sick. So at this point in time, I would blame her or anyone that gives these weirdos a platform knowing the end result.

hatrack

(63,123 posts)
15. Without her platform, they would be nothing . . .
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 08:26 AM
Friday

They'd be boring other members of their local Lions Club, and playing lots of golf.

JustAnotherGen

(35,923 posts)
17. How did she know
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 08:44 AM
Friday

That her giving them an opportunity to excel - would be turned into an opportunity for evil?

She didn't. We didn't. I chose to call them both charlatans years and years ago. Especially Dr. Phil with his made-up conflicts for ratings. Jerry Springer was soooooooooo much better at that game.

She's not Candace Owens.

yardwork

(67,339 posts)
27. And who do we blame for Trump's fame?
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:17 AM
Friday

Without his Apprentice show, he never would have been elected president. And Oz would be a retired show biz guest.

yardwork

(67,339 posts)
26. Blame Oprah's viewers for not showing any discretion.
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:16 AM
Friday

Oprah is an entertainer, and she had other entertainers on her show.

You can blame Oprah for having a show you don't like. You can blame her for promoting charlatans. But it's a stretch to blame her for Oz being made head of CMS.

The fault for that lies with Trump and RFK, Jr., who appointed Oz. And the fault for Trump and RFK, Jr. being in charge of our health care system? That's with the American voters.

BonnieJW

(2,979 posts)
29. Don't forget about Maryann Williamson
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:25 AM
Friday

Who was also foisted upon us via Oprah. With all her spiritual nonsense and then she ran for president. I will admit she would have been better than president putz

niyad

(125,548 posts)
42. I just checked his bio. .learned that oprah's production company was
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:53 AM
Friday

responsible for his tv show, and all the damage it caused.

Skittles

(166,311 posts)
68. I never liked Oprah, I always found her grandstanding very self-serving
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 05:38 PM
Friday

but after she inflicted those hacks on us I absolutely DESPISE her

Cloudhopper

(87 posts)
4. It's so convenient to blame the sick, but how about the
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 07:21 AM
Friday

industries that are making us sick, start there. There are plenty of them.

How is a GD doctor so stupid??!!

slightlv

(6,192 posts)
65. This is what worries me, tooi, OldBaldy...
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 03:58 PM
Friday

I already jump through more hoops and lose more of privacy because I have a monthly script (doable with 3 separate month scripts) for my pain meds. I figure before I'm planted, they'll try to strip those away from me. Woe be unto the person who has to deal with me with my lupus and fibro both flare up at the same time, especially when rain begins to approach the area and kick off the stenosis and arthritis in my spine. I will kill.... !

Seriously, tho... I worry about this. If they start to go all authoritarian on what drugs can and cannot be dispensed and for what, there's going to be a lot of violence and death in the country. I've done some research, and to taper off my Effexor med, it would take me close to a decade, and even then there are bad side effects for years once you're off it. Same with several of the SSRI's out there. I know what I'm like if I miss a couple of days of dosage, and you do not want to go through that. There aren't enough treatment centers anywhere to deal with all the people on SSRI's who'd be going thru withdrawals that could lead to suicides. I've also got meds that are being used off-label to treat my fibro. If they go full authoritarian, I"m assuming that the off-label use would no longer be allowed. It's damned scary, AFAIC. But I can hear the sound bites right now on PSA's... "Let go of that drug, and let God heal you!" Because by then we'll all be living in a theocracy, and this concept is right up their alley...

Marthe48

(21,368 posts)
11. You can't be sick
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 07:54 AM
Friday

but it's ok to breathe dirty air, drink contaminated water, and live among the toxic waste deposited by industry.

GiqueCee

(2,599 posts)
14. Oz IS a disease...
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 08:20 AM
Friday

... His malice and incompetence are on full display, and yet, he's still got a national platform from which to spew his lies, to the detriment of ALL Americans. His word-salad drivel isn't just annoying, it's potentially lethal. But then, that's why Trump appointed him. The malicious child calling itself KING wants to destroy the country, because he knows, as does anyone with the mental faculties of a potted plant, that he could never have won an honest election without cheating, just as he could never win at golf without cheating. And he resents the fact that everyone – with the exception of the brain-dead yahoos that still support him – knows that he's a fraud, a thief, and a pathological liar.
And the band played "Nearer my God to Thee".

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,950 posts)
16. According to Dr. Oz, my late husband's illness was HIS fault???
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 08:39 AM
Friday

What about fucking genetics, Dr. Oz? What kind of witch doctor are you?

Despite my husband's inheriting a bad heart, developing Type II diabetes, he made changes in his lifestyle with diet and exercise to starve off the effects of what would kill him in the end. I changed how I cooked to not only aid me in losing weight and keeping it off, but centered my lifestyle around his to increase his quality of life of life as well.

But after COVID, life changed for most of us. As life changed for millions of Americans despite medications and lifestyle changes. For Dr. Oz to heartlessly blame the sick for the problems we face today, is CRUEL. For he blames the disabled, the deformed, the elderly, etc.

Karma is a bitch Dr. Oz. There will come a day when you become sick! For she will not be merciful for the things you said about others.

hildegaard28

(610 posts)
19. Because parents
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 08:48 AM
Friday

Can just "deal" with cancer? Maybe instead of giving those kids chemo meds, they need to be out running around in the fresh air? That will totally kill the cancer.

Blackjackdavey

(230 posts)
21. Oz, he ain't no wizard!
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:02 AM
Friday

His basic premise regarding children is not wrong. Understanding that many childhood illnesses are preventable or behavioral and that parenting or lack thereof does play a major role in childhood illness isn't wrong. He's also not wrong that diet and companies marketing garbage not food to children and parents is a major factor. However, as mentioned above already, the big money polluting industries and tech industries also are major contributors and we know they have no intention of reigning that in. But the major point I want to make, is the reason many children and families are stuck in a cycle of illness, generation from generation is socioeconomic, environmental and cultural. Families can't afford increasingly expensive healthy food, they don't have access to parks, they don't have basic nutritional information or accurate information of any kind, they don't have any idea how what positive parenting, behavior management and prosocial skills are and Oz along with the man behind the curtain do not want to acknowledge or address any of those things. (Who am I kidding they don't understand or know what those things are either.) Families often like to pathologize their children in order to mask overall family dysfunction, our government is doing the same thing.

Therefore, added together, he starts out right, ends up sadly wrong.

tulipsandroses

(7,768 posts)
23. I wish there was a rule that said no rich people can be in a cabinet or run for office
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:07 AM
Friday

Not unless you have a track record of public service.

These rich assholes are so fucking out of touch.

yardwork

(67,339 posts)
28. That's the problem.
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:22 AM
Friday

The attitude of the people running our health care system (RFK, Jr, Oz, and their 20-something minions) is the following:

1. If you are sick, we can offer you weight loss drugs and an AI avatar nurse.

2. If those don't work, you're on your own.

3. "We" can't afford to spend a lot of money on you dreary poor people. Either get it together or die.

CousinIT

(11,666 posts)
32. Wow. I before checking the link, I thought this was The Onion. But..
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:27 AM
Friday

..it's NOT.

Holy shit, that entire crime syndicate is batshit insane.

Diamond_Dog

(37,778 posts)
35. Good luck Ozzy with getting American industry to cooperate.
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:31 AM
Friday

Cheap processed food made addictive, no more air and water pollution regulations, starving funding for medical research, plus unfettered gun ownership would be a good place to start. And stop demonizing people who are ill, “DOCTOR”.

pfitz59

(11,691 posts)
38. How rich are Oz and his 'peers'?
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:38 AM
Friday

How complicit is he/are they in making health care unaffordable? Kids don't run around playing outside anymore because 'Faux and friends' have portrayed the nation being full of dangers. Plus parents are terrified their kids get hurt or sick because they can't afford medical insurance or 'copays, caps' and other bullshit. Oz can go fuck himself.

BumRushDaShow

(157,280 posts)
41. "How rich are Oz and his 'peers'?"
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:52 AM
Friday

This rich -



(alot of it from his wife, whose family owns the Asplundh company that does a variety of services for utilities)

bmichaelh

(880 posts)
40. Dr Oz is part of MAHA
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:51 AM
Friday

I believe Dr. Oz is part of MAHA movement.

I have family members that are part of this movement and MAGA, also.

This is some of the crazy stuff they believe.

All disease is the result of diet and environment.
There is a secret cure for cancer that is being suppressed by the pharmaceutical industry.
COVID was manufactured in the lab.
They send me links to unproven cancer cures, like ivermectin.
Additionally, they refuse to be vaccinated.

In 1986, I was diagnosed with Crohns.
There are some people that are genetically predisposed to the disease (not diet or environment).
I was at greater risk of lymphoma, which I was diagnosed with 4 years later.
Lymphoma returned 2x in 2002 and 2019.

Unfortunately, there will probably be Americans who will not be better off with this quacks in government.

Blackjackdavey

(230 posts)
59. You shouldn't automatically discount
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 11:48 AM
Friday

This: All disease is the result of diet and environment. Even Crohns, even cancer, even genetic disposition. I think it is probably safe to discount "all." But this is what environmental justice is all about. (And Biden's extraordinarily useful environmental justice map.) We know there are cancer clusters, asthma clusters, lead poisoning clusters, etc. around the country. We know this is the result of polluting industries carefully located in or near communities of lower socioeconomic means and we know the cycle of poverty can lock people into those environments for multiple generations. We also know American sociopathapitalists don't want to talk about that.

Aristus

(70,481 posts)
45. The complaint of the idle-rich billionaire class:
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:59 AM
Friday

"The poors aren't working hard enough for my money!"

To them, every employee sick day is a day the billionaires aren't getting the wealth that working people earn for them.

chouchou

(2,192 posts)
46. "diagnosing problems that probably should be dealt with with the parents,"
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 10:02 AM
Friday

Oh Yeah! Like the logical, intelligent parents who voted for probably some of the worst humans in existence.
"Here honey, be sure to eat your extremely high sugary cereal this morning before going to school and
take your delicious lunch..consisting of fat and grease...Yum yum!!

OldBaldy1701E

(8,464 posts)
47. Attention: Everyone who is in the position to be physically near him each day.
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 10:23 AM
Friday

PLEASE get sick with something and then go to where he will be each day and cough/touch everything you know he will be touching.

PLEASE do this every day that you can. Save your old tissues and wipe down his door knobs and his car doors.

SHOW him that being sick is no joke and certainly nothing to politicize as an attempt to curry favor.

ananda

(32,652 posts)
48. Broken clock there.
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 10:33 AM
Friday

I agree with him that children are too obese, over-medicated,
and not active enough.

However, medical science is still a necessary part of life for
everyone.

What Oz is doing -- literally -- is throwing the baby out with
the medical bathwater.

He is a dangerous tool.

DBoon

(24,018 posts)
49. no wonder 1 million covid deaths are swept under the carpet
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 10:34 AM
Friday

It was all their fault for getting sick and dying

In their view, the true tragedy is that the healthy were required to mask and vaccinate

NH Ethylene

(31,189 posts)
55. This sounds like a war is brewing - a war on fat people
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 11:13 AM
Friday

The complications of obesity make up a big chunk of the medical costs in this country. Does he subscribe to the "let them die" approach? I would not be surprised at all. Anything to squeeze out a few more dollars for the rich.

Greybnk48

(10,577 posts)
60. I guess Oz (is he really still a Dr?) doesn't care that his career is over once we oust the fat orange pig.
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 12:47 PM
Friday

Is he promoting any of his pills or snake oil like he used to? What a fast talking, scam artist he is. He is definitely a good fit for Trumpy.

turbinetree

(26,411 posts)
64. He really should have his medical licensed pulled and then told to go and pound sand............
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 02:38 PM
Friday

Karasu

(1,697 posts)
69. Of course. The polar opposite of what we need to be doing. Health care in this country is done and anyone who still
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 05:48 PM
Friday

values their health and has the means is better off leaving.

kimbutgar

(25,642 posts)
71. This is so stupid how can people not get sick?
Fri Jul 25, 2025, 06:49 PM
Friday

Insane and idiotic comment. Typical of the people in the orange pedo presidents OPP administration.

lonely bird

(2,430 posts)
73. When and if we get through this psychosis...
Sat Jul 26, 2025, 08:00 AM
Saturday

Confiscate his assets. Strip him of his citizenship. Deport his ass to Somalia.

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