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BumRushDaShow

(156,875 posts)
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 05:16 PM Thursday

Social Security to end paper checks after Sept. 30

Source: Scripps News

Posted 3:06 PM, Jul 17, 2025 and last updated 3:08 PM, Jul 17, 2025


The Social Security Administration will stop sending monthly paper checks after Sept. 30.

The agency says fewer than 1% of Social Security recipients currently receive paper checks. Those individuals will need to opt in to direct deposit or a prepaid debit card option to continue receiving their benefits.

"We’re proactively sending notices to people who currently receive paper checks, to explain the upcoming change and highlight the benefits of switching to electronic payments," the agency said in a statement. Each notice will include a flyer outlining how beneficiaries can sign up for electronic payment options.

The agency says moving away from paper checks improves efficiency and reduces the risk of theft or delays. Paper checks are 16 times more likely to be lost or stolen than electronic payments, according to SSA.

Read more: https://www.scrippsnews.com/us-news/social-security-to-end-paper-checks-after-sept-30



Now THAT will cause a riot - especially in rural areas and small towns - and even some urban areas that are "banking deserts" (which is what prompted the push years ago, to allow Post Offices to offer limited banking).
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Social Security to end paper checks after Sept. 30 (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Thursday OP
Yeah, and for the unbanked who used the USPS intrepidity Thursday #1
Direct deposit costs nothing synni Thursday #11
"Unbanked" nt intrepidity Thursday #19
So get banked Polybius Friday #30
Or get the debit card n/t SickOfTheOnePct Friday #31
.... intrepidity Friday #33
The only fee... SickOfTheOnePct Friday #35
... intrepidity Friday #32
That's exactly how I feel about seniors who refuse to abide by modern technology Polybius Friday #34
Wow....I thought those had ended 10-15 years ago Bengus81 Thursday #2
They tried but there is the same issue BumRushDaShow Thursday #5
I haven't received a paper paycheck since the early 1990's. Dr. T Friday #22
fewer than 1%. and those people are getting the side eye stopdiggin Thursday #3
The government could provide help to those who find it difficult to make the change. twodogsbarking Thursday #4
With a call wait time of only 2 days!!!11!!!!1!! BumRushDaShow Thursday #6
I've been on hold since 1994. They said not to hang up or I would wait even longer. twodogsbarking Thursday #7
They did contract out under the table BumRushDaShow Thursday #8
"One ringy dingy..." n/t SickOfTheOnePct Thursday #13
It was a job. twodogsbarking Thursday #15
Yes because so many rural areas are without reliable internet and cellphone service FakeNoose Thursday #9
Help me understand why not having a local bank is a problem? I have lived 2000 sinkingfeeling Thursday #10
There are people in a number of blighted urban locales BumRushDaShow Thursday #12
Some elderly people don't know how to do online banking. NH Ethylene Thursday #14
Exactly. Thank you for pointing that out, NH. Not everyone FemDemERA Friday #36
I wonder what financial corporation will benefit from all of those prepaid cards? Buddyzbuddy Thursday #16
Direct Express SickOfTheOnePct Friday #26
Thank you for the information. (Comments not directed at you SOTOP) And that charge would "only" occur Buddyzbuddy Friday #37
It isn't Direct Express, it's the owners of the ATMs n/t SickOfTheOnePct Friday #38
Federal civil service paychecks were Deminpenn Thursday #17
My lab supervisor had a big safe in his office BumRushDaShow Friday #20
Paper checks intelpug Thursday #18
A move away from GPO goverment printing office? LiberalArkie Friday #21
I don't think they print the checks BumRushDaShow Friday #23
I guess it has changed, it used to be way back when I would get actual IRS refund checks that they LiberalArkie Friday #24
My dad used to work at the VA from the mid-'50s to the mid-'70s BumRushDaShow Friday #25
Paper checks came from the Treasury, just like your tax refund checks do Deminpenn Friday #39
Social Security to end Paper Checks after Sep 30 CRB Friday #27
What about people who can't have bank accounts due to old debts where accounts get attached? Liberty Belle Friday #28
Debit card n/t SickOfTheOnePct Friday #29
That only works if you have stores that will take them BumRushDaShow Friday #40
I can't help but wonder... SickOfTheOnePct Friday #41
To respond BumRushDaShow Friday #43
I don't believe SS can be garnished by collection agencies MichMan Saturday #44
Thought Rebl2 Friday #42

intrepidity

(8,363 posts)
1. Yeah, and for the unbanked who used the USPS
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 05:21 PM
Thursday

wait til they learn of all the "fees" the debit card comes with. Just another poverty tax.

intrepidity

(8,363 posts)
33. ....
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 01:53 PM
Friday
wait til they learn of all the "fees" the debit card comes with. Just another poverty tax.

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,002 posts)
35. The only fee...
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 01:59 PM
Friday

...is if they use it to withdraw from an ATM (if the bank's ATM charges fees) more than once between payment disbursement. T

Polybius

(20,543 posts)
34. That's exactly how I feel about seniors who refuse to abide by modern technology
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 01:56 PM
Friday

Gotta get with the times.

BumRushDaShow

(156,875 posts)
5. They tried but there is the same issue
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 05:35 PM
Thursday

in some areas in states, there are no banks and people go to check-cashing places to cash them. In some cases, if they go with a debit card, some may have a fee and/or will limit how much cash can be taken out per day.

Dr. T

(308 posts)
22. I haven't received a paper paycheck since the early 1990's.
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 06:49 AM
Friday

The last 30 years of my 43-year career were paperless. I wasn't given a choice. I'm not sure that I'd even know what to do with a paper check nowadays.

stopdiggin

(14,041 posts)
3. fewer than 1%. and those people are getting the side eye
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 05:28 PM
Thursday

(and probably have been for years) ... from friends, family, caretakers, banks and check cashing facilities ...
But most especially kids and grandchildren - who are consistently telling their loved one, "Granddad - it's just plain stupid!"

( there's familiarity and force of habit .... and then there's just pig-headed nonsense! )

BumRushDaShow

(156,875 posts)
8. They did contract out under the table
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 06:08 PM
Thursday

so you might get Ernestine, who was hired to crack the whip and speed things up!



twodogsbarking

(14,469 posts)
15. It was a job.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 08:17 PM
Thursday

In 2021, there were fewer than 4,000 telephone operators, down from a peak of around 420,000 in the 1970s, according to Bureau of Labor Statistics data.

FakeNoose

(37,933 posts)
9. Yes because so many rural areas are without reliable internet and cellphone service
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 06:14 PM
Thursday

Joe Biden tried to change it, and he tried to bring high-speed internet out to the Boonies.

sinkingfeeling

(55,937 posts)
10. Help me understand why not having a local bank is a problem? I have lived 2000
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 06:29 PM
Thursday

miles away from my primary bank. I established an account in 1986 and have moved 4 times since. I have my pensions, SS, and dividends direct deposited and take out cash at local stores when I make purchases with a debit card.
I will continue to use that bank even in Costa Rica, minus getting cash back.

BumRushDaShow

(156,875 posts)
12. There are people in a number of blighted urban locales
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 07:05 PM
Thursday

that are not only "food deserts" with no supermarket, but "bank deserts", with no banks whatsoever, and what little financial-related businesses that they may have access to are check-cashing places that are almost usurious, but they will take the check and cash it.

Their source of groceries end up being small corner stores that sell limited perishable food (maybe bread, milk, eggs) as well as canned goods, dry foodstuffs like rice, beans, pasta, etc, that are often "cash only" because thieves come in and put "skimmers" on their debit/credit terminals to steal the card info.

In fact, for a number of those little stores that did have full ATM machines, what has unfortunately happens is this -





So you also have owners of those little stores either with a machine out of order or none at all due to idiots trying to blow open the machine to get the money out. I remember one instance where some perps broke into a little store next to one that was secured with one of those metal gates over the windows/door that had an ATM, and they literally blew away the wall in the adjoining store to get into the store with the ATM so they could take the machine out.

Hell - 2 banks near me had exterior ATMs blown up and they had to put the replacement ones inside.

Blowing up ATMs is a "thing". And robbing armored trucks is too, as there is a spate of those here happening in NE Philly in the past couple weeks.

NH Ethylene

(31,185 posts)
14. Some elderly people don't know how to do online banking.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 08:14 PM
Thursday

And they may not be able to learn new things. Hopefully nobody gets lost in the process of this change. I'm sure the Trump administration would not be bothered if a few people wound up not being paid.

FemDemERA

(536 posts)
36. Exactly. Thank you for pointing that out, NH. Not everyone
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 02:33 PM
Friday

Has a trustworthy relative or neighbor who is able and willing to help them navigate the online world. I have an elderly relative who struggles with a phone or any electronic device. She does paper everything except what our family helps her with, but she is resistant and fearful of things that many of us think of as simple, everyday things and also struggles with accepting help because she wants to be independent. There is no ability of learning tech stuff for her, even losing some knowledge she had before, like the cell phone getting more difficult for her. It’s not done on purpose, it just is what is is for many older people. The “get with the times” attitude that many have is both unrealistic and hurtful.

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,002 posts)
26. Direct Express
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 09:49 AM
Friday
https://www.usdirectexpress.com/faq.html

Looks like the only thing that might incur a fee is use of an ATM, and that would apparently only occur if you do a cash withdrawal more than once between pay disbursement.

Buddyzbuddy

(1,197 posts)
37. Thank you for the information. (Comments not directed at you SOTOP) And that charge would "only" occur
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 03:18 PM
Friday

because Direct Express would have to hire somebody(s) 24/7 to manually slide the cash through the ATM slot? And do they have monetary limits as to that cash withdrawal?
No justification for the charges except to steal money from senior citizens.

ALWAYS A SCAM. Way to look out for Americans.

Deminpenn

(16,920 posts)
17. Federal civil service paychecks were
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 10:03 PM
Thursday

switched to electronic deposit only decades ago.

Paychecks used to be handed out on Fridays, then they were mailed, then they were transitioned to all direct deposit. I held out with paper checks for years until my check mistakenly got put in a neighbor's mailbox and they tried to cash it. Fortunately the check cashing place was suspicious and confiscated the check. Been direct deposit ever since.

BumRushDaShow

(156,875 posts)
20. My lab supervisor had a big safe in his office
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 03:41 AM
Friday

where he would put the checks and would hand them out every other Friday. The secretary had the envelopes with printed copies of the paystubs (leave and earnings statement). The bank I used had a branch a block away from the office so at lunch, I would walk to it and deposit. A few years later, they closed that bank branch and I ended up walking about 4 blocks to another one.

intelpug

(137 posts)
18. Paper checks
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 10:05 PM
Thursday

Maybe for some, But most of these people probably go to a bank to cash the check anyway so what's the difference? I remember years ago more than once being handed a paper paycheck out in the rain on payday and hoping it wouldn't just melt in my wallet till I could get it to the bank. Trouble was the job didn't end till 5:00 and the banks were all closed then. The married guy's could get the wife to take it but guy's like me had to get someone else to or cash it that night at one of a couple of bars in town that kept enough cash on hand (200,000 on hand I learned later) to handle payroll checks, Not always a good Idea to be handed several hundred cash over the bar with other patrons looking on, ( early eighties, a few hundred was something) and Heh Heh, It tended to keep you at the bar later than you intended most times :

BumRushDaShow

(156,875 posts)
23. I don't think they print the checks
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 06:56 AM
Friday

They do more of the (paper) forms and bound versions of the regulations, etc.

I believe Dept. of Treasury handles checks because that is where the money is technically coming from ( "the Treasury" ), and would do so for various Departments/agencies (e.g., HHS, OPM, the VA, etc.).

LiberalArkie

(18,620 posts)
24. I guess it has changed, it used to be way back when I would get actual IRS refund checks that they
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 09:23 AM
Friday

came from the GPO. I guess at that time they were the only group that had the actual check material, kind ok like only the U.S. Mint can print money as they are the only ones with the actual paper.

But you are correct that all checks are now done by the U.S. Treasury.

BumRushDaShow

(156,875 posts)
25. My dad used to work at the VA from the mid-'50s to the mid-'70s
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 09:42 AM
Friday

from back when it was still called the "Veterans Administration" before it became a Department), where he was in our local (Philly) COBOL programmers group who programmed the calculations for the distribution of Veteran's Benefits, which included the montly checks. I don't think they printed those (although they had plenty of tree killing with the punch cards and endless printouts ). I believe Treasury did that once the info was transmitted (through one of their offices).

CRB

(4 posts)
27. Social Security to end Paper Checks after Sep 30
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 10:07 AM
Friday

Most banks will not cash checks if you do not have a account, and if you are able to open a account you must maintain a certain amount in the account in order to avoid the fees associated with a low balance. The debt card is an option if the card could be used without having to pay ATM fees .

Liberty Belle

(9,674 posts)
28. What about people who can't have bank accounts due to old debts where accounts get attached?
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 10:17 AM
Friday

A friend was in that situation and had to cash his Social Security check at a check cashing place becuase if he opened an account it would be seized and he would have no money to eat.

BumRushDaShow

(156,875 posts)
40. That only works if you have stores that will take them
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 04:24 PM
Friday

or even have the card reader. There are urban areas, as I posted upthread, that have their card readers end up with criminals attaching skimmers on them or stores end up with their ATM machines blown up (and who knows how long it might take for them to get a replacement) - https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=3497548

SickOfTheOnePct

(8,002 posts)
41. I can't help but wonder...
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 04:27 PM
Friday

…and no sarcasm, serious question, what do people do now when they get their checks id they don’t have a bank account? I get that they might go to a check cashing place to cash it, but then what? How do they pay their bills? Are they all getting money orders to mail off?

And the debit cards don’t have to be used at an ATM, they can get cash back when they buy something.

BumRushDaShow

(156,875 posts)
43. To respond
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 05:11 PM
Friday
I can't help but wonder...

…and no sarcasm, serious question, what do people do now when they get their checks id they don’t have a bank account? I get that they might go to a check cashing place to cash it,


As you note - they "go to a check cashing place to cash it". It is EXACTLY what they do. There are NO banks in their neighborhood. But these same neighborhoods will have little check-cashing places every couple blocks (along with the pawn shops, that I noticed are making a come-back).

but then what? How do they pay their bills? Are they all getting money orders to mail off?


They LITERALLY go to the utility company, all of which have offices around the city, and pay IN CASH. When they get their electric bill in the mail, once a month they will hop on a bus or trolley and go into the electric company's retail/customer location, and hand them the cash to pay the bill and get a receipt. There are cashiers there just for that purpose. Same with the gas company and the same even applies to the cable company (I know whenever I had to go to a Comcast outlet - for example, to return cable equipment, there would be a CSR there for people who were paying their bills and they were doing so with cash.

Many people in these neighborhoods are also renting (whether an apartment or a house), so they pay their landlord IN CASH.

And the debit cards don’t have to be used at an ATM, they can get cash back when they buy something.


As I said - they don't have any supermarkets or pharmacies in these poorer neighborhoods. That is why you see people use the term "food desert". It's the very definition of it. They rely on the "convenience stores" or Dollar Stores for food and household goods and any that do take credit cards, continually have the problem of the skimmers (which are also often stuck on self-serve gas station pump card readers) and the blown-up ATM machines.

Looking at your user name, I would tell you that these folks are the BOTTOM of the 99%. People complain about why they eat at so many fast food restaurants - it's because "it's lunch" or "it's dinner" and whether a chain or one of the local food shops, they take (and often require) "cash" and are just about all that is available outside of being able to have access to a food pantry (and those are about to be completely wiped out with all the federal funding cuts).

ETA - this is a typical check-cashing place (there are also chains of them) - this one in the Kensington neighborhood in Philly by the El -



It's next door to a "mini market" that has groceries. They cash the checks, and in some cases, they can actually pay utility bills in those places, then buy some stuff in the mini-market, and then hop on public transit (or walk) back home.
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