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LetMyPeopleVote

(166,499 posts)
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:24 PM Thursday

Trump underwent vascular testing because of leg swelling: White House

Source: ABC

President Donald Trump underwent vascular testing after he had swelling in his legs, with all results within normal limits, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said Thursday.

Leavitt said Trump noted "mild swelling in his lower legs," which prompted the White House medical team to evaluate him.

"The president underwent a comprehensive examination including diagnostic vascular studies, bilateral lower extremity intravenous doppler ultrasounds were performed and revealed chronic venous insufficiency, a benign and common condition, particularly in individuals over the age of 70," Leavitt said in the Thursday White House press briefing.

There was no evidence of deep vein thrombosis or arterial disease and an echocardiogram showed normal cardiac structure and function, Leavitt said, adding that all results from testing were "within normal limits."

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-vascular-testing-leg-swelling-white-house/story?id=123839307




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Trump underwent vascular testing because of leg swelling: White House (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Thursday OP
If everything was within normal limits bucolic_frolic Thursday #1
Sorry that kind of swelling is not normal Ritabert Thursday #2
Same with my mom. FalloutShelter Thursday #16
Trump is right on the path azureblue Thursday #31
Looks like it. Ritabert Thursday #32
Really Bad skin. TY Cha Thursday #90
Bat shit crazy- hm, not new... but bat shit crazier with manias...stroke, mini stroke or pending one? mpcamb Thursday #97
And Mine Deep State Witch Thursday #53
My mother-in-law had the same swelling . . . peggysue2 Thursday #26
Sorry for your loss Ritabert Thursday #28
Same with my mother 10 years ago and my brother had began having the very early stages of it before he died last year.😟 cstanleytech Thursday #54
Same with my dad. SheltieLover Thursday #36
I hate to ask, but how long before? Scrivener7 Thursday #58
I had it as well last year PatSeg Thursday #63
My grandmother had puffy ankles for as long as I can remember Ocelot II Thursday #73
Could be hereditary Ritabert Thursday #99
Exactly. It's not normal. CousinIT Thursday #81
Orrex get in here stat cadoman Thursday #3
... SheltieLover Thursday #37
Grim Reaper, do your stuff! FakeNoose Thursday #69
Won't be long now. Expect a cardiac event in the near future. brush Thursday #98
There is nothing " normal" about him Deuxcents Thursday #4
Sorry, don't believe a word she says. sinkingfeeling Thursday #5
Many people have noticed the swelling LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #6
"This is not good." ... No, it's FANTASTIC! JoseBalow Thursday #68
Bwah! electric_blue68 Thursday #95
They forgot to do an arterial Oxygen flow to Trump's 'brain' Test!! riversedge Thursday #7
To do that, they would need a NASA telescope to find bluestarone Thursday #85
Sure. I believe that report. Uh huh. yardwork Thursday #8
Yeah, Like the doctor that said Traitor weighed Cha Thursday #93
His hate-fueled bile is overwhelming his bodies capacity to spew it out over all of us. FailureToCommunicate Thursday #9
I was unaware that lies caused leg swelling. jls4561 Thursday #10
Yeah, thought it was the nose that grew. nt eppur_se_muova Friday #108
"Normal limits"? You don't get ankles like that when everything's normal. Ocelot II Thursday #11
If Leavitt's lips are moving she's lying Ritabert Thursday #33
Absolutely! SheltieLover Thursday #38
And if her lips are not moving... GReedDiamond Thursday #64
Yes! Ritabert Thursday #72
I call bullshit Bayard Thursday #12
Great idea! SheltieLover Thursday #40
Right atreides1 Thursday #13
They lie about everything. sop Thursday #14
Has anyone ever even seen his legs? kskiska Thursday #15
I'm beginning to wonder whether he has cloven hooves instead of normal feet. Ocelot II Thursday #25
Bazinga! You win the thread! Maybe that's what they're hiding with that padding? SheltieLover Thursday #44
When Mike Johnson said tsf was sent by God, BlueKota Thursday #82
Who wants to see his legs? But you have a point there. Katinfl Thursday #35
Probably a 13 year old but that was decades ago. I read that somewhere............. Bengus81 Thursday #92
Normal.... Mhmmm Quanto Magnus Thursday #17
"Within normal limits" my ass! Paladin Thursday #18
Cherry on top will be watching him stumble, bumble, and walk in the wrong direction after boasting his legs Attilatheblond Thursday #22
The best legs the doctor's ever seen Ritabert Thursday #34
"normal"? Tarzanrock Thursday #19
I am glad I was not drinking anything when I read this. BlueKota Thursday #79
Very likely oswaldactedalone Thursday #103
Great, now people noticing their own peripheral edema... Think. Again. Thursday #20
Par for the course for this regime, considering the shit RFK Jr. tries to normalize every fucking day. Karasu Thursday #55
So, Theil & the American Oligarchs aren't read for JD's ascension to the throne just yet? Attilatheblond Thursday #21
"...Leavitt said, adding that all results from testing were "within normal limits." mwmisses4289 Thursday #23
So dweller Thursday #24
One can hope! SheltieLover Thursday #45
He can't lie his way out of death. C_U_L8R Thursday #27
I'm gonna take a speculative guess odins folly Thursday #29
Absolutely! SheltieLover Thursday #46
I was thinking the other night, after seeing his makeup, slightlv Thursday #65
I bet you're right BlueKota Thursday #84
Leavitt is lying about trump's health LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #30
Holy shit, that's not "mild" ankle swelling. That looks like congestive heart failure. nt SunSeeker Thursday #42
One can hope! SheltieLover Thursday #47
Definitely compression socks. sinkingfeeling Thursday #56
He's wearing nine pairs of socks. So says Leavitt. twodogsbarking Thursday #66
Description. Etc. Igel Thursday #100
My father has this Ken Dayenu Thursday #39
I'm sorry to hear of your dad's struggles SheltieLover Thursday #48
He doesn't seem to be struggling Ken Dayenu Thursday #62
I'm glad your dad is doing well SheltieLover Thursday #67
McDonald's Gold Card Ken Dayenu Thursday #86
Can we add a KFC gold card too pls? SheltieLover Thursday #88
My money is on congestive heart failure. MontanaMama Thursday #41
Yes, please! SheltieLover Thursday #49
I know we are all so anxious about any news on his health because we are all looking for something serious. Katinfl Thursday #43
It seems like "Cankles" here is in pretty bad shape. mwb970 Thursday #50
Oof. That may need to be his new name. It's very mean. Thus perfect. Scrivener7 Thursday #60
He's on his last legs? cstanleytech Thursday #51
Bullshit Deep State Witch Thursday #52
But they forgot to add Diraven Thursday #57
Well chronic venous insufficiency is not "normal." Raven123 Thursday #59
Not all that incredibly rare. Igel Thursday #101
Not rare, but not "normal." Raven123 Thursday #104
Oh there he is democrank Thursday #61
CVI is not a "benign" condition. AloeVera Thursday #70
"There was no evidence of deep vein thrombosis..." Javaman Thursday #71
trump has been suffering from this condition for a long while LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #74
The Felon has cankles? Oeditpus Rex Thursday #75
Izzy dead yet? WestMichRad Thursday #76
Can't wait! Hassin Bin Sober Thursday #77
Ah, the joyous march to the wood chipper .... nt eppur_se_muova Friday #109
The White House reported The Wizard Thursday #78
I'm in his age bracket. My ankles look just fine. Ocelot II Thursday #83
Who will be equally as horrible BlueKota Thursday #87
Edema.... CousinIT Thursday #80
I just assumed that it was overflow from his swollen head Bristlecone Thursday #89
FTR, avg lifespan of US white male is 77 Deminpenn Thursday #91
Irrelevant. Igel Thursday #102
Just posting an overall average Deminpenn Thursday #107
Die you miserable fucking piece of shit Blue Owl Thursday #94
He will be fine. Relax. twodogsbarking Thursday #96
This letter from trump's doctor smells LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #105
Agree. Smells like 💩 BlueKota Thursday #106
After an Eco-cardiogram, results showed my late husband's ejection fraction less than 25% ProudMNDemocrat Friday #110

Ritabert

(1,378 posts)
2. Sorry that kind of swelling is not normal
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:26 PM
Thursday

My mother-in-law developed it before she passed of congestive heart failure.

azureblue

(2,496 posts)
31. Trump is right on the path
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:59 PM
Thursday

Easy bruising, swelling hands, bad skin, swollen feet. Not to mention mental problems and evidence of a mild stroke..

mpcamb

(3,125 posts)
97. Bat shit crazy- hm, not new... but bat shit crazier with manias...stroke, mini stroke or pending one?
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 05:40 PM
Thursday

peggysue2

(12,027 posts)
26. My mother-in-law had the same swelling . . .
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:52 PM
Thursday

Shortly before she died.

Her lungs were severely damaged and her heart was working overtime to compensate. When I look back, she had a number of symptoms that appeared gradual in nature (and not that awful) until everything fell apart all at once.

cstanleytech

(27,775 posts)
54. Same with my mother 10 years ago and my brother had began having the very early stages of it before he died last year.😟
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:32 PM
Thursday

PatSeg

(50,634 posts)
63. I had it as well last year
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:45 PM
Thursday

And it was congestive heart failure. Clearly, this man is not in "excellent health". If people online had not pointed out the swollen ankles and bruised hand, I don't think it is likely that the White House would have disclosed anything about his condition.

Ocelot II

(126,089 posts)
73. My grandmother had puffy ankles for as long as I can remember
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:06 PM
Thursday

and she lived to be 98, finally dying of old age but not specifically of heart failure. I'm not sure what caused her ankles to swell - there are a number of reasons, even being overweight or on your feet a lot - but even in her early '90s she always seemed pretty robust. Trump looks a lot sicklier than Grandma ever did.

Ritabert

(1,378 posts)
99. Could be hereditary
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 06:05 PM
Thursday

Some women get thick ankles from childbirth and it doesn't go away.

CousinIT

(11,651 posts)
81. Exactly. It's not normal.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:34 PM
Thursday

Even for someone over 70. It is indicative of serious pulmonary issues.

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,499 posts)
6. Many people have noticed the swelling
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:29 PM
Thursday

This report is to try to pretend that trump is not as sick as he is. The trump white house is worried


Cha

(313,092 posts)
93. Yeah, Like the doctor that said Traitor weighed
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 05:28 PM
Thursday

such and such and was so tall.. when clearly he wasn't .

Everything is a Lie is the only foundation.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,547 posts)
9. His hate-fueled bile is overwhelming his bodies capacity to spew it out over all of us.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:31 PM
Thursday

...But I'm no doctor.

Ocelot II

(126,089 posts)
11. "Normal limits"? You don't get ankles like that when everything's normal.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:31 PM
Thursday

Edematous ankles can also be a sign of congestive heart failure. And can we believe anything Leavitt says about anything?

Bayard

(26,041 posts)
12. I call bullshit
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:34 PM
Thursday

He might as well just start injecting those Big Mac's directly into a vein.

atreides1

(16,793 posts)
13. Right
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:36 PM
Thursday

As if anything coming out her mouth ever bears a shred of truth!

Leg swelling, also known as peripheral edema, can result from various underlying causes, ranging from relatively minor to serious conditions. It occurs when excess fluid accumulates in the tissues of the lower legs, often due to problems with blood circulation, the lymphatic system, or other medical conditions.

SheltieLover

(71,831 posts)
44. Bazinga! You win the thread! Maybe that's what they're hiding with that padding?
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:14 PM
Thursday


I'm sure no offense was intended to our cloven-hooved planetary neighbors.

BlueKota

(4,400 posts)
82. When Mike Johnson said tsf was sent by God,
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:35 PM
Thursday

my immediate thought was he was sent by someone, but it wasn't God. It was most likely this guy.

Paladin

(31,084 posts)
18. "Within normal limits" my ass!
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:43 PM
Thursday

Wait until trump starts spewing about this: "Greatest vascular test results in human HISTORY! Absolutely PERFECT legs!"

I can hear him screaming it now. The only fun part will be watching him try to pronounce "vascular" properly...

Attilatheblond

(6,711 posts)
22. Cherry on top will be watching him stumble, bumble, and walk in the wrong direction after boasting his legs
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:46 PM
Thursday

Tarzanrock

(1,206 posts)
19. "normal"?
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:43 PM
Thursday

If the Turd is "normal," then why does the ginormous piece of shit have difficulty walking on those swollen ankles and legs and why is he always hunched over leaning forward? Maybe, he is just constantly constipated?

BlueKota

(4,400 posts)
79. I am glad I was not drinking anything when I read this.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:30 PM
Thursday

It would be all over my shirt because of laughter!

Think. Again.

(22,417 posts)
20. Great, now people noticing their own peripheral edema...
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:44 PM
Thursday

...will see Leavitt lying about trump's edema, think it's "normal", and not do anything about it to protect their own health.

Irresponsible isn't a strong enough word for these people.

Karasu

(1,646 posts)
55. Par for the course for this regime, considering the shit RFK Jr. tries to normalize every fucking day.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:33 PM
Thursday

Attilatheblond

(6,711 posts)
21. So, Theil & the American Oligarchs aren't read for JD's ascension to the throne just yet?
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:45 PM
Thursday

Guess they are waiting for a staged reason to declare martial law? Gonna keep their goons in gear to provoke more people?

mwmisses4289

(1,563 posts)
23. "...Leavitt said, adding that all results from testing were "within normal limits."
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:47 PM
Thursday

Liar, liar, pants on fire 🔥!

odins folly

(427 posts)
29. I'm gonna take a speculative guess
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:55 PM
Thursday

That all the BS about President Biden and “declining cognitive” bla, bla was to get out in front of all of shitbag’s health issues.

And when he does croak for whatever, republicans will throw cover at ANY inquiry into how Baghdad Barbie LIED TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE!!!!!!!

Fuck these people

slightlv

(6,137 posts)
65. I was thinking the other night, after seeing his makeup,
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:50 PM
Thursday

that no matter when he dies, or what he dies from, or how he dies it WILL be blamed on a democrat or democrats in general. The lies they're telling now are but laying out the red carpet for the story they're gonna come up with about how his death wasn't "natural"... and start pointing fingers (ala the scotus judge)

BlueKota

(4,400 posts)
84. I bet you're right
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:41 PM
Thursday

They will probably blame it on the pressure Democrats and tsf's "past supporters, are putting on him to release the Epstein files.

Ken Dayenu

(111 posts)
39. My father has this
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:11 PM
Thursday

My father (84) is struggling with swelling in his legs probably related to stage 3/4? kidney failure. This has been going on for years.

Ken Dayenu

(111 posts)
62. He doesn't seem to be struggling
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:44 PM
Thursday

He doesn't seem to be any worse for wear because of the swelling. That is why I don't necessarily think this is going to kill Trump.

SheltieLover

(71,831 posts)
67. I'm glad your dad is doing well
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:56 PM
Thursday

I feel pretty certain there is a lot more wrong with slobby.

Consider his age & diet.

Look at the huge, puffy bags under his eyes.

And that right hand. What's up with that?

Hold the vision.



Ken Dayenu

(111 posts)
86. McDonald's Gold Card
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:46 PM
Thursday

I think we should all chip in and get Trump a McDonald's Gold Card. Unlimited McDonald's should expedite his demise.

Katinfl

(431 posts)
43. I know we are all so anxious about any news on his health because we are all looking for something serious.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:13 PM
Thursday

But we have to be realistic. He’s 79, he’s going to have some issues that are age related. Fact of life. Not life threatening, I am afraid. There is nothing I would like more than to see his demise in my lifetime, but we have to be realistic. Now show me something really serious, and I’m all there!.

Deep State Witch

(12,014 posts)
52. Bullshit
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:28 PM
Thursday

I have the same thing. I get my legs ultrasounded every six months - and mine look nowhere near as bad as his do! That shit looks like my grandfather's legs before he died of congestive heart failure.

Diraven

(1,454 posts)
57. But they forgot to add
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:35 PM
Thursday

"And he's the healthiest president America has ever had". Like for every other press release about his doctor exams.

Raven123

(6,869 posts)
59. Well chronic venous insufficiency is not "normal."
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:37 PM
Thursday

No one knows why he has it, and the White House will never tell the truth. So he takes aspirin daily. Many do, but no one takes it who is in “perfect” health to my knowledge.

Igel

(36,982 posts)
101. Not all that incredibly rare.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 06:42 PM
Thursday
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK430975/

An estimated 10% to 35% of adults have CVI in the US, with 4% of adults aged 65 years or older developing venous ulcers.[3] Results across studies suggest that in the general population, between 1% and 17% of men and 1% and 40% of women may experience chronic venous insufficiency. Furthermore, the prevalence of varicose veins has been reported to range from under 1% to 70%. The variation in these estimations is likely due to the different diagnostic criteria used and the population surveyed.[1] Globally, the prevalence of CVI is higher in industrialized nations (eg, Western Europe and the US) due to more inactive lifestyles.[5]

The prevalence of venous ulcers, a common complication of CVI, in the US ranges from approximately 1% to 3%.[3] Similarly, lower leg ulceration occurs in approximately 1% to 2% of the global adult population and is reported to increase to 3% in patients older than 65.[5] Formation of an ulcer carries a poor prognosis, with 40% of patients developing recurrence despite standard treatment. Management of chronic venous insufficiency accounts for approximately 2% of the US's total healthcare.[11][12]


If those stats are for the general population and prevalence increases with age, it's more common in the oldest 10% than average.

democrank

(11,663 posts)
61. Oh there he is
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:40 PM
Thursday

in his 24K gold tie and his half-gold hair and his American flag pin.I don’t mean to seem heartless but that photo bothered me so much I had to quickly scroll down to the end. Kind of missed a chunk of the Trump health stuff.

AloeVera

(3,285 posts)
70. CVI is not a "benign" condition.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:02 PM
Thursday

From wiki:

CVI is not a benign disorder and, with its progression, can lead to morbidity. Venous ulcers are common and very difficult to treat. Chronic venous ulcers are painful and debilitating. Even with treatment, recurrences are common if venous hypertension persists. Nearly 60% develop phlebitis which often progresses to deep vein thrombosis in more than 50% of patients. The venous insufficiency can also lead to severe hemorrhage. Surgery for CVI remains unsatisfactory despite the availability of numerous procedures.[6]

Bolding mine. It's a serious disorder.

So she lied?

Javaman

(64,260 posts)
71. "There was no evidence of deep vein thrombosis..."
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:03 PM
Thursday

"or arterial disease and an echocardiogram showed normal cardiac structure and function, Leavitt said"

yeah, cool story

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,499 posts)
74. trump has been suffering from this condition for a long while
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:10 PM
Thursday

trump probably was suffering from this condition during the election but did not close his medical records


The Wizard

(13,275 posts)
78. The White House reported
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:29 PM
Thursday

this condition is normal for people in his age bracket.
English Translation: Say hello to President Vance.

Ocelot II

(126,089 posts)
83. I'm in his age bracket. My ankles look just fine.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:39 PM
Thursday

Is Baghdad Barbie trying to tell us that once you're in your '70s your ankles normally puff up like basketballs?

BlueKota

(4,400 posts)
87. Who will be equally as horrible
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 04:49 PM
Thursday

and unfortunately younger. Hopefully my psychiatrist is right and that cult loyalty doesn't often transfer to a successor of the original leader.

Igel

(36,982 posts)
102. Irrelevant.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 06:55 PM
Thursday

That's the average for somebody born now, accounting for incidence of old age diseases, car crashes, homicides, suicides, childhood illnesses, drug overdoses ... Them's the odds without taking into account anything else but the newborn and all the risks.

There's also life expectancy given your current age (I've seen it called 'expectancy of life' to avoid confusion with 'life expectancy at birth', but that's apparently not the usual term).

I'm 66. Regardless of the life expectancy for somebody born in 1959, the New York State tables say I have--on average--15 years left to live. That's 81. Another table, from census.gov, for the cohort of males born from 1959-61 say life expectancy is 66.94 (specifically for Maryland). The difference? I survived this long, I'm treated by different medical practices, I've survived all the crap that could have killed me off so far--and my SES is built in, whether great, meh, or crappy health care access.

The NYS table gives a 79-year-old man an additional 7.78 years--on average. So 86, pushing towards 87. Because having lived that long, he's missed all kinds of things that could have killed him by now--with all the same hedges. And his life expectancy at birth would have, I'm guessing, been lower than mine. 1944 instead of 1959, more or less.

Elementary stats--and this is just averages.

Deminpenn

(16,920 posts)
107. Just posting an overall average
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 09:49 PM
Thursday

For every white make who lives longer than the average age, another white make has to die younger than it.

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,905 posts)
110. After an Eco-cardiogram, results showed my late husband's ejection fraction less than 25%
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 05:52 AM
Friday

Having lived through this with my husband's last days, the swelling in his legs, hands, abdomen, elsewhere, was a result of severe Congestive Heart Failure. His Type II Diabetes made worse due to the swelling. When the heart is not pumping effectively, oxygen does not get to the brain and the vital organs. My husband was experiencing memory issues complicated by the heart Failure despite having a more high powered pace maker put in in March.

Trump is in the throes of heart Failure and the cover up is obvious. Swelling and discoloring of the skin. I know the signs. Notice how he is slurring his words more? His use of even more makeup? Low blood oxygen pales the skin. It will only get worse for the TACO from here on out despite the cover up of his health.

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