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BumRushDaShow

(156,874 posts)
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:22 PM Thursday

Trump supporters burn Maga hats after he dismisses Epstein files furor as 'hoax'

Source: The Guardian

Thu 17 Jul 2025 11.53 EDT
Last modified on Thu 17 Jul 2025 13.47 EDT


Donald Trump’s efforts to dismiss the criticism over his administration’s handling of the Jeffrey Epstein files as a “hoax” showed no sign of working on Thursday as more prominent figures from across the political spectrum emerged to attack the US president and some of his supporters recorded videos burning their signature Make America Great Again hats.

Days after the Republican speaker of the House, the Trump loyalist Mike Johnson, called for the release of all documents relating to the late financier, a convicted sex offender and longtime former friend of Trump’s, rebellion continued to simmer within the president’s normally diehard base.

Trump’s former vice-president, Mike Pence, told CBS News on Wednesday that “I think the time has come for the administration to release all of the files regarding Jeffrey Epstein’s investigation and prosecution”, while the conspiracy theorist Laura Loomer, a frequent close adviser to Trump, called for the appointment of a special counsel to handle the Epstein files investigation. “Obviously, this is not a complete hoax given the fact that [Epstein associate] Ghislaine Maxwell is currently serving 20 years in prison in Florida for her crimes and activities with Jeffrey Epstein, who we know is a convicted sexual predator,” she said.

The podcast host Theo Von, who attended Trump’s inauguration and told Fox News it was “inspiring”, commented “yeah what changed” on a video of the vice-president, JD Vance, appearing on Von’s show in 2024 and calling for the full Epstein list to be released. Even some of Trump’s most loyal allies in Congress say they are not satisfied by his decision to not release additional files from the Epstein case.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/17/trump-jeffrey-epstein-republicans-maga

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Trump supporters burn Maga hats after he dismisses Epstein files furor as 'hoax' (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Thursday OP
After all the horrific damage Trump has caused, Epstein is the thing that brings him down. Irish_Dem Thursday #1
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. How many times have we heard he is done for. we can do it Thursday #2
True. But we never got this far so might as well enjoy the moment. Irish_Dem Thursday #3
I'm with you... slightlv Thursday #6
Yes we have to take our victories, no matter how small. Irish_Dem Thursday #7
A quarter of support is from right wing religion. Make that change and he loses his majority support. mpcamb Thursday #9
They forgive him all his transgressions, past, present and future. mdbl Thursday #14
I don't think that's possible. slightlv Friday #18
Ten times per day on MTN. Or snapping,or melting down or...... Bengus81 Thursday #10
Maddow Blog-Trump lashes out at backers over Epstein debacle: 'I don't want their support anymore!' LetMyPeopleVote Thursday #4
Steve Benen is a very smart guy, but he forgot to say one thing FakeNoose Thursday #13
That's what happens when you do nothing but consume conspiracy theories for 10 fucking years and convince yourself Karasu Thursday #5
Strictly performative wolfie001 Thursday #8
Who else is old enough to have followed Watergate? I was 20 and then Nixon resigned two days Bengus81 Thursday #11
I am Deminpenn Friday #20
Yeah...just like when he said the newest Democrat hoax was Covid. How'd that bullshit work out Trump? Bengus81 Thursday #12
This just goes to show that lots timms139 Thursday #15
I hope they were wearing their hats at the time Wicked Blue Thursday #16
They sure like to light things on fire BlueSpot Thursday #17
Good idea, magas.. how about a nation Cha Friday #19

Irish_Dem

(72,498 posts)
1. After all the horrific damage Trump has caused, Epstein is the thing that brings him down.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:23 PM
Thursday

The MAGAs are true idiots, but useful idiots at this point.

Irish_Dem

(72,498 posts)
3. True. But we never got this far so might as well enjoy the moment.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:33 PM
Thursday

Even if it evaporates into thin air.

But the precedent is set.
The MAGAs can hate Trump with a passion.

slightlv

(6,137 posts)
6. I'm with you...
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:52 PM
Thursday

I don't really expect anything major coming out of this... and I detest the fact he can terrorize, maim, and kill so many and THIS is what might bring him down. Still, any port in the storm, as they say.

I'm going to enjoy whatever mileage I can get out of this... might help my BP a little bit!

mpcamb

(3,125 posts)
9. A quarter of support is from right wing religion. Make that change and he loses his majority support.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 05:45 PM
Thursday

mdbl

(6,959 posts)
14. They forgive him all his transgressions, past, present and future.
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 07:39 PM
Thursday

Because they are a bunch of hypocritical morons.

slightlv

(6,137 posts)
18. I don't think that's possible.
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 02:29 PM
Friday

Of any groups that back him, the hardest to get back to reality will be the fundamental extremists. They're seeing their best shot at creating a theocracy worthy of the 2nd coming, which they've been working towards for decades, right now with him. They're too far gone. Religion is one rabbit hole I fear is too deep to back out of on your own... and these people will never want help. Everything is explained by "God wills it so"... there is no response to that.

LetMyPeopleVote

(166,499 posts)
4. Maddow Blog-Trump lashes out at backers over Epstein debacle: 'I don't want their support anymore!'
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 02:40 PM
Thursday

Having lost control of the Jeffrey Epstein story, the president is condemning his own supporters and allies as “weaklings” who have fallen for a “hoax.”

If Dems cooked up the Epstein files — a ridiculous idea, to be sure — wouldn’t they have released the files, instead of leaving them on Bondi’s desk? And wouldn’t they have included Trump to make him look bad?

Or would it make more sense to think that the existing files do make Trump look bad?

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-07-16T17:36:06.432Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-lashes-backers-epstein-debacle-dont-want-support-anymore-rcna219125

In brief comments to reporters late on Tuesday afternoon, Trump said only “bad people” want to keep the controversy going — an assessment that appeared to include many on the right who continue to focus attention on the matter. The next morning, as NBC News reported, the Republican president went considerably further.

President Donald Trump on Wednesday disowned his supporters who have called for the release of files related to Jeffrey Epstein, chiding them as ‘weaklings’ who ‘bought into this bulls---.’ The lengthy post on Truth Social represents the clearest split from the faction of his MAGA base that has questioned the Justice Department’s handling of the case.


As part of a 243-word online tirade, which included odd but obligatory references to Hunter Biden, Hillary Clinton and Trump’s Russia scandal, the president condemned the Epstein controversy as a “SCAM” and a “Hoax” created by his Democratic enemies, while admonishing his “PAST supporters” who take the story seriously.....

A few hours later, at a White House event, he kept this going, chastising “stupid Republicans and foolish Republicans.”
https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:h7qtoo7nxqxarrsijohjhbw4/post/3lu3tqbgjyk2g



.....But as Trump tries to bully the political world into submission, there is a follow-up question I’d love to hear the president answer: If the whole Epstein story is an elaborate “scam” and “hoax” cooked up by Democrats, why was it embraced by so many members of his own team — including Vice President JD Vance, Attorney General Pam Bondi, FBI Director Kash Patel and Deputy FBI Director Don Bongino? Is it the president’s contention that they’re all “stupid,” too?

FakeNoose

(37,932 posts)
13. Steve Benen is a very smart guy, but he forgot to say one thing
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 06:10 PM
Thursday

The only Americans who still believe in "Law and Order" are the DEMOCRATS. We believe our country has a system that was working and it was worth keeping. We're still trying to save it, in the face of Chump's disorder and destruction.

He'll be gone, the MAGAs will be gone .... and we'll still be here, working to save our country ... for ALL OF US!

Karasu

(1,646 posts)
5. That's what happens when you do nothing but consume conspiracy theories for 10 fucking years and convince yourself
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 03:39 PM
Thursday

they MUST be true.

They are too delusional and divorced from reality to be anywhere near politics. Fuck the GOP.

Bengus81

(9,028 posts)
11. Who else is old enough to have followed Watergate? I was 20 and then Nixon resigned two days
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 05:56 PM
Thursday

after I turned 21. This is following the same script along with the missing 18...I mean 2-3 minutes of Epstein being murdered.

How long until Trump really starts firing lots of people like Nixon did?

Deminpenn

(16,920 posts)
20. I am
Fri Jul 18, 2025, 04:05 PM
Friday

This is a different level, though, because the Rs are too cowardly to go where Barry Goldwater went with Nixon.

Bengus81

(9,028 posts)
12. Yeah...just like when he said the newest Democrat hoax was Covid. How'd that bullshit work out Trump?
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 05:59 PM
Thursday

timms139

(334 posts)
15. This just goes to show that lots
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 10:33 PM
Thursday

of voters wasted their vote for something that won't put food on the table or insure folks keep their health plans. We can say a dead Epstien got Trump elected.

BlueSpot

(1,115 posts)
17. They sure like to light things on fire
Thu Jul 17, 2025, 11:45 PM
Thursday

Usually stuff they paid for. Anybody burning those silly watches or Bibles yet? I mean, who would want a Bible sold to them by a pedophile? Start a movement already.

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