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highplainsdem

(57,310 posts)
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 10:35 PM Thursday

The F.B.I. Is Using Polygraphs to Test Officials' Loyalty

Source: NYT

Typically, the F.B.I. has turned to polygraph tests to sniff out employees who might have betrayed their country or shown they cannot be trusted with secrets.

Since Kash Patel took office as the director of the F.B.I., the bureau has significantly stepped up the use of the lie-detector test, at times subjecting personnel to a question as specific as whether they have cast aspersions on Mr. Patel himself.

In interviews and polygraph tests, the F.B.I. has asked senior employees whether they have said anything negative about Mr. Patel, according to two people with knowledge of the questions and others familiar with similar accounts. In one instance, officials were forced to take a polygraph as the agency sought to determine who disclosed to the news media that Mr. Patel had demanded a service weapon, an unusual request given that he is not an agent. The number of officials asked to take a polygraph is in the dozens, several people familiar with the matter said, though it is unclear how many have specifically been asked about Mr. Patel.

The use of the polygraph, and the nature of the questioning, is part of the F.B.I.’s broader crackdown on news leaks, reflecting, to a degree, Mr. Patel’s acute awareness of how he is publicly portrayed. The moves, former bureau officials say, are politically charged and highly inappropriate, underscoring what they describe as an alarming quest for fealty at the F.B.I., where there is little tolerance for dissent. Disparaging Mr. Patel or his deputy, Dan Bongino, former officials say, could cost people their job.

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Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/07/10/us/politics/fbi-polygraph-kash-patel.html

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The F.B.I. Is Using Polygraphs to Test Officials' Loyalty (Original Post) highplainsdem Thursday OP
Polygraphs are bunk. Which is par for the course with this admin. RockRaven Thursday #1
pseudo science BLewis Friday #13
The polygraphs will continue until morale improves. tanyev Thursday #2
The FBI sounds like Stalin's NKVD these days. LudwigPastorius Thursday #3
Sounds like an excerpt from 1984 DrFunkenstein Friday #7
They could save money and retain the accuracy... -misanthroptimist Thursday #4
They must be using the ones ICE no longer requires for applicants lol. FF!! (Fuck Fascists!) n/t Cheezoholic Thursday #5
At some point, as an FBI employee, James48 Thursday #6
I've thought about that since I have a friend working at a government agency fujiyamasan Friday #11
Can They Use A Polygraph On Patel About The Epstein List? DrFunkenstein Friday #8
Nails it. thought crime Friday #12
Post removed Post removed Friday #9
If you haven't said something negative about Kash Patel or Dan Bongino muriel_volestrangler Friday #10

DrFunkenstein

(8,790 posts)
7. Sounds like an excerpt from 1984
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 12:40 AM
Friday

Polygraph tests to check political loyalty? Sounds like the "Outer Party" of Ingsoc.

-misanthroptimist

(1,388 posts)
4. They could save money and retain the accuracy...
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 10:57 PM
Thursday

...simply by offering the officials a nice cup of tea, and then just read the leaves.

Cheezoholic

(3,100 posts)
5. They must be using the ones ICE no longer requires for applicants lol. FF!! (Fuck Fascists!) n/t
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 10:58 PM
Thursday

James48

(4,874 posts)
6. At some point, as an FBI employee,
Thu Jul 10, 2025, 11:25 PM
Thursday

Aren’t you duty-bound to resign?

I know I took my oaths very seriously, and an employer like that is not “preserving, protecting or defending the U.S. Constitution. “

I’d resign by now.

fujiyamasan

(416 posts)
11. I've thought about that since I have a friend working at a government agency
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 03:40 AM
Friday

As you’d imagine he takes his oath seriously and we only discuss whatever is public.

But he sees the direction the country is taking and is not happy about it.

The country is in the process of losing many decent and dedicated public servants. Many could have made a lot more money in the private sector, but decided to serve their country in other ways. This administration will find a way to drive them out because as Trump said it himself, they’re suckers and losers.

DrFunkenstein

(8,790 posts)
8. Can They Use A Polygraph On Patel About The Epstein List?
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 12:44 AM
Friday

But honestly, having people taking a lie detector to see if they have "cast aspersions" on the director sounds like an episode of The Office.

thought crime

(494 posts)
12. Nails it.
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 06:24 AM
Friday

Also, Don Bongino complaining about having an office job: “I stare at these four walls all day in DC, you know, by myself, divorced from my wife. Not divorced, but I mean, separated. And it's hard. We love each other, but it’s hard to be apart.”

Response to highplainsdem (Original post)

muriel_volestrangler

(104,098 posts)
10. If you haven't said something negative about Kash Patel or Dan Bongino
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 03:30 AM
Friday

you've probably lost all higher brain function. So this is a test of how well the employees can lie.

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