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BumRushDaShow

(152,487 posts)
Sun May 18, 2025, 06:13 AM 6 hrs ago

Oklahoma high schools to teach 2020 election conspiracy theories as fact

Source: The Guardian

Sat 17 May 2025 18.18 EDT


As part of the latest Republican push in red states to promote ideologies sympathetic to Donald Trump, Oklahoma’s new social studies curriculum will ask high school students to identify “discrepancies” in the 2020 election results.

The previous standard for studying the 2020 election merely said: “Examine issues related to the election of 2020 and its outcome.” The new version is more expansive: “Identify discrepancies in 2020 elections results by looking at graphs and other information, including the sudden halting of ballot-counting in select cities in key battleground states, the security risks of mail-in balloting, sudden batch dumps, an unforeseen record number of voters, and the unprecedented contradiction of ‘bellwether county’ trends.”

The revised curriculum standard comes at the behest of Ryan Walters, the state school superintendent, who has publicly voiced his support for Trump. In October, Walters lauded Trump in an interview, saying that “Trump’s won the argument on education”. Walters, who has also advocated for ending “wokeness” in public schools, went on to say: “We have education bureaucrats that are left-wing, elitist, that think they know best for families, and they have become so radicalized that our families are going: ‘What is going on here?’”

Oklahoma’s new social studies standards for K-12 public school students, already infused with references to the Bible and national pride, were revised at Walters’ direction. The Republican official has spent much of his first term in office not only lauding Trump but also feuding with teachers’ unions and local school superintendents.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/may/17/oklahoma-high-schools-election-conspiracy-theories

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Oklahoma high schools to teach 2020 election conspiracy theories as fact (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 6 hrs ago OP
Time to boycott everything Oklahoma. Shouldn't be too hard. OrlandoDem2 6 hrs ago #1
With you on that. I think every Democratic Party -- and D Party supporting organization, group and affiliate should KPN 20 min ago #20
"Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past." -- Orwell . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz 5 hrs ago #2
Surprised he is not advocating that the earth is flat, joshdawg 5 hrs ago #3
There is stupid and then there is Oklahoma stupid which takes it to another level of unAmerican idiocy. Botany 5 hrs ago #4
I call them blatant lies, gab13by13 5 hrs ago #5
They'll also teach the earth is flat, the moon is made of green cheese, and man lived at the same time as the dinosaurs. surfered 5 hrs ago #6
There are already WAY too many... GiqueCee 4 hrs ago #8
It will affect them surfered 4 hrs ago #10
Hmm...Don't RW dumbshits call that kind of teaching "indoctrination"?? And taught by "guberment schools"? Bengus81 3 hrs ago #15
As a life-long okie... MoseShrute 4 hrs ago #7
And... BumRushDaShow 4 hrs ago #9
Also the State that aviator Wiley Post was from. He had some skeletons in the closet Bengus81 3 hrs ago #16
Thanks for making Texas look enlightened by comparison, Oklahoma. Paladin 4 hrs ago #11
A fascist education! paleotn 4 hrs ago #12
Trump is the Fuhrer of OK. bronxiteforever 3 hrs ago #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Bengus81 3 hrs ago #14
Hopefully there are parents who will remove their kids during that indoctrination samnsara 2 hrs ago #17
As soon as they produce text, that is clearly wrong and they're teaching them the wrong things oldmanlynn 2 hrs ago #18
Oh boy, that's a doozy! The transformation is apparently complete. We are now officially and unquestionably KPN 26 min ago #19
When are they going to teach that wind turbines cause cancer? appleannie1 16 min ago #21
Jesus what an asshole. mdbl 2 min ago #22

KPN

(16,612 posts)
20. With you on that. I think every Democratic Party -- and D Party supporting organization, group and affiliate should
Sun May 18, 2025, 12:25 PM
20 min ago

make this a visible, loud, non-stop and aggressive campaign: BOYCOTT OKLAHOMA!!!

NOW!

Bernardo de La Paz

(55,683 posts)
2. "Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past." -- Orwell . . . nt
Sun May 18, 2025, 06:49 AM
5 hrs ago

joshdawg

(2,795 posts)
3. Surprised he is not advocating that the earth is flat,
Sun May 18, 2025, 06:50 AM
5 hrs ago

the moon landing was staged, and trump is sane.
What an idiot!

Botany

(74,147 posts)
4. There is stupid and then there is Oklahoma stupid which takes it to another level of unAmerican idiocy.
Sun May 18, 2025, 06:58 AM
5 hrs ago

Are historical facts inconvenient to your Christo Fascist agenda? Then just rewrite history.*
Saudi Arabia funds this kind of education in Pakistan and Afghanistan with their madrassas
that are used “to teach” young men to grow up and be God Warriors for the Taliban. In America
they call this a Christian Education where science, facts, history, and critical thinking are not
part of the curriculum but are called “Being Woke” or “DEI” or just “CRT” or just not spoken about.

* America was built on racism, sexism, slavery, genocide, and Christian extremism which for
years were kept out of public education as separation of church and state but that America
that “Shining City on the Hill” is being burned to the ground by the GOP, Musk, Trump, Oligarchs,
Christo Fascists, right wing media and web sites and Vlad’s criminal network.

Teaching that slavery and the genocide of the native peoples was wrong and evil is now going
to banned and replaced with stories about the Africans from East Central Africa who were made
to be slaves just got a nice boat ride to America. Rewriting History in the name of Jesus by the
least Christian people you could find is the goal.

gab13by13

(28,105 posts)
5. I call them blatant lies,
Sun May 18, 2025, 07:28 AM
5 hrs ago

calling them conspiracy theories gives them a shred of truth. I believe the conspiracy theory that Oswald didn't kill JFK.

surfered

(6,730 posts)
6. They'll also teach the earth is flat, the moon is made of green cheese, and man lived at the same time as the dinosaurs.
Sun May 18, 2025, 07:31 AM
5 hrs ago

GiqueCee

(2,216 posts)
8. There are already WAY too many...
Sun May 18, 2025, 08:08 AM
4 hrs ago

... deluded souls that actually believe everything you mentioned, maybe with the exception of the moon thing, but that's only because they hadn't thought of it yet.
We have a thoroughly obnoxious neighbor who is convinced that the Earth is indeed flat, and no amount of logic or science can sway him. His arguments in support of this idiotic belief are incoherent gibberish. The moon is flat, too; why do you think you can only see one side of it? It all goes downhill from there, to almost speaking in tongues.
And he home-schools his kids. I pity them.

Bengus81

(8,810 posts)
15. Hmm...Don't RW dumbshits call that kind of teaching "indoctrination"?? And taught by "guberment schools"?
Sun May 18, 2025, 09:03 AM
3 hrs ago

Pot meet the KETTLE..............

MoseShrute

(57 posts)
7. As a life-long okie...
Sun May 18, 2025, 08:04 AM
4 hrs ago

It’s hard for me to believe this is the state that produced Will Rogers and Woody Guthrie. That’s what multiple generations of hard core rw blather from The Daily Oklahoman, the newspaper out of OKC, will do. It was Fux sNews before there was Fux sNews. Oklahoma has been either last or one of the worst 3-4 states in educational results for 40 years now. The lunatic ryan walters has his eyes set on Felon47’s massive rump to be the Groom of the Stool, but he must not be doing something correctly because he’s still here. Damnit. There is a great book, Waltzing With the Ghost of Tom Joad, that perfectly explains why Oklahoma was the 6th poorest state in the nation back in the 1930s and still is today. Main reasons: generational lack of education.

BumRushDaShow

(152,487 posts)
9. And...
Sun May 18, 2025, 08:13 AM
4 hrs ago


(I actually saw a "summer stock" production of that, I think in Portsmouth, NH, back in the '70s when visiting my cousins who lived up in the area back then )

And as a weather hobbyist, they have been threatening the gutting of the Storm Prediction Center that is located right there in Norman, OK.

Bengus81

(8,810 posts)
16. Also the State that aviator Wiley Post was from. He had some skeletons in the closet
Sun May 18, 2025, 09:13 AM
3 hrs ago

but did great things for aviation before he was killed in 1935. While flying the Lockheed Vega he discovered the jet stream seven or eight years before the claim that WWII pilots discovered it.

He had Goodyear rubber make him a pressurized flying suit in the 30's for high altitude flying.

There's a book called Forgotten Eagle about his life that is a fantastic read.

Paladin

(30,367 posts)
11. Thanks for making Texas look enlightened by comparison, Oklahoma.
Sun May 18, 2025, 08:37 AM
4 hrs ago

Normally it takes UT whipping OU in college football to accomplish that.

Of course, it's just a matter of time before Greg Abbott, Dan Patrick, Ted Cruz, and the rest of the Texas Republican leadership douchebags try to do the same thing to our public schools. Making Texas look stupid is what they live for.

paleotn

(20,364 posts)
12. A fascist education!
Sun May 18, 2025, 08:45 AM
4 hrs ago

What better way to say you're a state filled with illiterate, god bothering fucktards!!!!!

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

samnsara

(18,515 posts)
17. Hopefully there are parents who will remove their kids during that indoctrination
Sun May 18, 2025, 09:51 AM
2 hrs ago

..when i worked with child abuse and neglect prevention non profits we would make presentations in the schools about Good Touch/Bad Touch and we had to present the info to a parent group before we even were allowed into the classrooms.

oldmanlynn

(661 posts)
18. As soon as they produce text, that is clearly wrong and they're teaching them the wrong things
Sun May 18, 2025, 10:03 AM
2 hrs ago

They will be sued and they will lose

KPN

(16,612 posts)
19. Oh boy, that's a doozy! The transformation is apparently complete. We are now officially and unquestionably
Sun May 18, 2025, 12:19 PM
26 min ago

living on Bizzaro World. .... I'd say remind me never ever to travel to or through Oklahoma again, but I already made that commitment a long while ago.

appleannie1

(5,267 posts)
21. When are they going to teach that wind turbines cause cancer?
Sun May 18, 2025, 12:29 PM
16 min ago

Hitler employed the same tactics and actually got children to turn in their parents.

mdbl

(6,472 posts)
22. Jesus what an asshole.
Sun May 18, 2025, 12:43 PM
2 min ago

If I were a parent in that state I would try and start a class-action lawsuit against teaching falsehoods to public school children.

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