Trump administration set to shutter iconic research center in New Yor
Source: Axios
11 hours ago
Scientists at an iconic NASA research center in New York City have been told they have until the end of the month to vacate their building and everything in it with nowhere else to go.
Why it matters: The closure of the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies, a building owned by Columbia University and made famous for housing the diner that appears in "Seinfeld," is the latest blow to scientists and climate change researchers from the Trump administration and DOGE.
Scientists at Goddard who spoke to Axios warn that critical work including the maintenance of global temperature records dating back to the 1880s used by economists, insurance companies and private developers is at risk with the Center's closure. Home to more than 100 scientists, the Goddard center is nearly as old as NASA itself, founded in 1966. It's where the terms "black hole" and "quasar" were coined.
State of play: Scientists there got an email last month alerting them to the imminent closure of the building, four of them told Axios Friday afternoon.
"This is existential for us," said Joy Romanski, a climate scientist at Columbia University who works at the center. "We can't recreate this anywhere else. And it doesn't work to be remote." The others, who work directly for NASA, asked for anonymity for fear of retribution from the federal government. They were told to remove all belongings from the space, down to the bare walls.
Zoom out: The magic sauce to the center, they said, is the collaboration between scientists and the post-doctoral students that come through every few years, as well as its close relationship to Columbia University.
"This is highly destructive to us, and I believe it's intentional," one said.
Read more: https://www.axios.com/2025/05/17/trump-nasa-goddard-office

Inkey
(390 posts)To step up and place some endowments
to secure this information trove before
it gone. The future awaits you !
paleotn
(20,364 posts)............................
wolfie001
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IbogaProject
(4,405 posts)I have always hated Mr Drumpf but this term has somehow managed to multiply that hatred.
blue cat
(2,451 posts)Wonder if hes still a Trump fan.
paleotn
(20,364 posts)If you read and watch his rhetoric, he's most definitely not. Just shows that people are on edge, and when they are they have a bad habit of overreacting and making things up.
ShazzieB
(20,663 posts)Last edited Sun May 18, 2025, 03:10 AM - Edit history (1)
Among other things, Neil is a highly educated, very educated and perceptive individual. I have a hard time imagining him not being aware of how staggeringly stupid Schlump is or being able to fall for the MAGA bull crap. I'd have to see some very hard evidence to be convinced otherwise.
choie
(5,452 posts)didn't save Columbia from cuts, huh?
BidenRocks
(1,478 posts)That is all!
angrychair
(10,610 posts)The Mango Mussolini has no legal or constitutional authority to do this. This administration is, in fact, breaking several laws including the impoundment act and the Constitution, among others
Evolve Dammit
(20,607 posts)LisaM
(29,183 posts)Every 20 minutes.
hibbing
(10,425 posts)ShazzieB
(20,663 posts)Schlump won't be satisfied unless and until he can erase science completely. It's truly horrifying. 😱
paleotn
(20,364 posts)Luckily, that "Jewish Science" was integral in creating a working atomic weapon. Nazi Germany went down the rabbit hole of Deutsche Physik, and Heisenberg created nothing. We didn't labor under such foolishness. Unfortunately, in a different way, now we are.
ananda
(31,762 posts)This country is so screwed!
ReRe
(11,646 posts)They hate science. History is another field they don't care for. Oh, and education, period.
BurnDoubt
(399 posts)defacto7
(14,056 posts)If the building is owned by Columbia University what does the government have to do with commanding that it be cleared it out? Why is that not up to the university to decide? De-funding the institute is one thing, but getting thrown out of the building by a deadline is another. What does the university have to say about it? Do they kowtow to Trump whims? Is there another renter interested in leasing that property? I think there's a red arrow pointing at the university here.
Bayard
(25,064 posts)BumRushDaShow
(152,487 posts)I am guessing that the government was leasing the building from Columbia and has now cancelled that lease.
One of the news sites had linked to an early, later retracted archived list of what DOGE loons had considered "non-core" properties back in March - https://web.archive.org/web/20250304192710/https://www.gsa.gov/real-estate/real-estate-services/real-property-disposition/noncore-property-list
Example article from then - GSA lists agency headquarters among 440 non-core assets for possible disposal
The list has been updated since - the more recent list described with business jargon - https://www.gsa.gov/real-estate/real-estate-services/real-property-disposition/assets-identified-for-accelerated-disposition
defacto7
(14,056 posts)That would mean the university would be calling the shots concerning occupancy if the lease was canceled. On the other hand, if the government retained the lease and wanted to sublet it to someone else I guess they could throw them out, but that's not what it says. I think the other docs are about the government wanting to dispense with properties it owns (or leases?). Maybe the government owns that property and they were leasing it to the university and the article got it wrong. I'm just trying to follow what's written in the article and it's unclear where the onus really lies.
BumRushDaShow
(152,487 posts)it's no different than a person cancelling a lease to an apartment.
The building probably IS owned by Columbia and the government plans to no longer be there and are "vacating the premises".
It has no bearing on who owns the building it's a matter of no longer paying to be there.
It is all the AI-programmed bullshit "cancellations" that brainlessly make no provisions for WHERE the occupants WILL be (assuming they haven't already been "fired" since NASA has been undergoing a gutting process).
There is a similar phenomena of cancelling WAH (work at home) agreements and forcing employees to return to work with not enough leased space to even work. I have former co-workers who had indicated that there was a running joke going around about "driving in to work and sitting in their cars out on the street to try to access their networks" because there was no office space to return to.
(and just to clarify - federal employees are not just working in "government-owned" buildings but most are probably working in "private" buildings where space is leased by GSA)
defacto7
(14,056 posts)As an outsider having never been had a government job, it's easy to think that these agencies are individual entities. No, they "are" the government. They and all their stuff, their projects, experiments, equipment, their microwave ovens, it's all owned by the government. They do what they're told. Gees, I have to get it in my head that it's the whole government that's being pulled into a rat hole, not just agencies going off a cliff separately. When you think about that, you realize how practically impossible it will be to recover the losses.
BumRushDaShow
(152,487 posts)you can imagine the pain I am feeling watching all this unfold. I am glad that I left before it happened (it was 2 weeks after 45's first term inauguration) but I still have former coworkers at my agency (a bunch of whom had a "retirement/layoff" get-together luncheon a few weeks ago).
When you say "it's all owned by the government" - that's what the old "G.I." term that evolved to reference soldiers, sortof meant - "Government issue".
As a daughter of a fed, I remember having these at home -
When I eventually worked for them, we had the Skillcraft-logoed ones (the "ABILITY ONE" contract was with a company that hired the disabled) -
And then eventually our office just bought pens from Staples.
I expect ABILITY ONE is on the chopping block (if it wasn't already taken out).
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Bo Zarts
(25,994 posts)The spaceship Earth is in mortal danger. Foxtrot Delta Tango. I say again, Foxtrot Delta Tango.