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BumRushDaShow

(152,492 posts)
Sat May 17, 2025, 03:09 PM 22 hrs ago

House Republicans' bill includes 'no tax on tips' proposal. How would it work?

Source: USA Today

May 17, 2025, 5:05 a.m. ET


House Republicans recently unveiled a sweeping tax plan that included a key promise from President Donald Trump’s campaign trail: no tax on tips.

Polling suggests it’s a popular idea across party lines, and Trump has credited the idea for aiding his 2024 election win. But critics argue that no taxes on tips is a costly, unfair tax break that will benefit few lower-income Americans.

“A relatively small number of workers are going to see any significant tax savings from this proposal,” said Joseph Rosenberg, a senior fellow at the left-leaning Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center. Here's what we know so far about the latest proposal.

Who qualifies for no tax on tips?

The bill would create a temporary tax deduction through 2028 for employees and independent contractors in occupations that “traditionally and customarily received tips,” likely servers, for example. Should the bill pass, those occupations would be hashed out by the Treasury secretary. Highly compensated workers who make at least $160,000 in 2025 would be ineligible.

Read more: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/05/17/no-tax-on-tips-gop-bill/83649380007/

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House Republicans' bill includes 'no tax on tips' proposal. How would it work? (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 22 hrs ago OP
Not sure it would be wise for Democrats to oppose this or removal of taxes on Social Security. It definitely Silent Type 21 hrs ago #1
they aren't going to oppose these provisions but the overall bill must be opposed for all its LymphocyteLover 5 hrs ago #15
It won't work, like vouchers won't work for schools ............... Lovie777 21 hrs ago #2
I'll tell you how it is meant to work. markodochartaigh 21 hrs ago #3
So as a small business service provider, could I work for free... CaptainTruth 21 hrs ago #4
Of course all states with state income tax would have to address this, too. mackdaddy 21 hrs ago #5
That Supreme Court case you mentioned is troubling delisen 18 hrs ago #7
Would end of the year bonuses be considered a tip? Buddyzbuddy 20 hrs ago #6
Servers, etc. would be cheated out of future Social Security without taxing no_hypocrisy 18 hrs ago #8
Bribes are consider tip as per SCOUS, no tax. Got it. republianmushroom 16 hrs ago #9
I worked in food service before tips were taxed Marthe48 16 hrs ago #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Omaha Steve 15 hrs ago #11
Okay, If I was still working I'd pay my assisstant minimum wage and ................................................... NGeorgian 15 hrs ago #12
Ultimately, I don't think they're doing tipped workers any favors TexasBushwhacker 15 hrs ago #13
Let's make taxes even worse. We are so good at it. twodogsbarking 5 hrs ago #14

Silent Type

(9,404 posts)
1. Not sure it would be wise for Democrats to oppose this or removal of taxes on Social Security. It definitely
Sat May 17, 2025, 03:21 PM
21 hrs ago

will help people on the lower end of the scale. Even if it's only a few million that get any benefit, I sure wouldn't stand in the way.

LymphocyteLover

(7,961 posts)
15. they aren't going to oppose these provisions but the overall bill must be opposed for all its
Sun May 18, 2025, 08:00 AM
5 hrs ago

horrible cuts elsewhere especially to Medicaid. Any Dem would be foolish to support this bill just for this part of it.

Lovie777

(18,465 posts)
2. It won't work, like vouchers won't work for schools ...............
Sat May 17, 2025, 03:23 PM
21 hrs ago

it means that the servers would have to report monetary given to them directly by customers, which include tips given to them by debit/credit cards. In many cases, all tips could be combined, and some business would get their share and spit the rest with the servers.

Either the way, they may get less.

markodochartaigh

(2,884 posts)
3. I'll tell you how it is meant to work.
Sat May 17, 2025, 03:40 PM
21 hrs ago

We all know that the supremacist court has ruled that politicians cannot take bribes, but they can take tips.

So, hypothetically, let's say that a politician, we'll call him "Stump" receives something of value, let's say an airplane, from someone, for our hypothetical example let's say a Middle Eastern country.
In order to qualify as a bribe the supremacist court has ruled that there must be an explicit tit for tat beforehand. So let's assume that "Stump" had no meetings with the foreign government which were recorded under The Presidential Records Act.
So then, we can assume that Stumpy's new plane will qualify as a tip. Under Snyder v. US state and local officials can accept tips, surely the supremacist court wouldn't think twice about extending this benefit to the greatest president ever, especially since presidents can't be convicted of anything anyway. (For clarification our hypothetical "Stump" is a Republican president and so qualifies for this immunity).
Well, now it is intuitively obvious to the most casual observer that President Stump's plane is a tip, and thus tax free.

CaptainTruth

(7,619 posts)
4. So as a small business service provider, could I work for free...
Sat May 17, 2025, 04:07 PM
21 hrs ago

...& receive payment only in tips?

mackdaddy

(1,766 posts)
5. Of course all states with state income tax would have to address this, too.
Sat May 17, 2025, 04:11 PM
21 hrs ago

Either it is still owed to the state, or the state would have to write in a similar exception/deduction.

And wasn't there a recent case where it was decided giving a politician money up front for something was a bribe, but giving them something after the favor was only a 'tip' and perfectly legal?

delisen

(6,987 posts)
7. That Supreme Court case you mentioned is troubling
Sat May 17, 2025, 06:18 PM
18 hrs ago

II remember correctly:
The political office holder demanded a payment to him personally because a decision he had made in favor of a business ended up greatly benefiting the business. The business was reluctant to pay him but eventually did so. The politician was tried and convicted but when the case got to the Supreme Court. the right wing justices decided it was just a tip and not a corrupt practice.

It was a fairly recent case and I think Kavanaugh wrote the opinion. It was a troubling decision.

Buddyzbuddy

(852 posts)
6. Would end of the year bonuses be considered a tip?
Sat May 17, 2025, 04:37 PM
20 hrs ago

What about live online sellers that receive tips from viewers or dancers?

no_hypocrisy

(51,537 posts)
8. Servers, etc. would be cheated out of future Social Security without taxing
Sat May 17, 2025, 06:26 PM
18 hrs ago

their tips. (If SS survives past the House vote.)

Marthe48

(20,618 posts)
10. I worked in food service before tips were taxed
Sat May 17, 2025, 08:45 PM
16 hrs ago

I was working in food service when the gov. put a tax on tips. At the time, withholding was going to be based on all waitressess getting 15% tips from all diners. I was always a cook, and didn't get tips. The waitresses I worked with rarely got 15% from any diner, let alone all of them. They usually got no tip, or a dollar or two. I was in the meeting when the manager explained what was going to happen. She didn't like to impose withholding on an imaginary income and the waitresses didn't like the news. Knowing that at the time, waitresses were paid half of the minimum wage with the expectation that the rest of their wage would come from tips, I thought it was unfair to the people I worked with.
I suppose that if tips aren't taxed every penny the rwnj grab will be counted as tips. Because they do everything so well. >sarcasm

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

NGeorgian

(110 posts)
12. Okay, If I was still working I'd pay my assisstant minimum wage and ...................................................
Sat May 17, 2025, 09:52 PM
15 hrs ago

tip her $3,000 a month!

TexasBushwhacker

(20,891 posts)
13. Ultimately, I don't think they're doing tipped workers any favors
Sat May 17, 2025, 09:55 PM
15 hrs ago

Less taxed income means lower Social Security benefits at retirement or disability.

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