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BumRushDaShow

(149,992 posts)
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 03:49 AM 20 hrs ago

Senate Republicans release budget blueprint with new tax cuts and a $5 trillion debt limit hike

Source: NBC News

April 2, 2025, 3:41 PM EDT / Updated April 2, 2025, 5:00 PM EDT


WASHINGTON — Senate Republicans released a new budget blueprint Wednesday that would pave the way for $1.5 trillion in new tax cuts in addition to making President Donald Trump’s 2017 tax cuts permanent.

They hope to adopt the plan in the coming days to instruct committees to begin work a massive bill to pass Trump’s agenda on taxes, immigration funding and other priorities. Senate Republicans are using the budget “reconciliation” process to evade the 60-vote hurdle in the chamber, where they hold a 53-47 majority, and cut Democrats out of the process.

Republicans are using a controversial new accounting method known as “current policy baseline” to score the cost of a Trump tax cut extension at $0. Democrats have slammed it as “magic math” that papers over the multitrillion-dollar cost of extending those tax cuts and are exploring their options to challenge the approach. The Senate GOP budget resolution includes a $5 trillion debt limit increase.

It is a revised version of a previous budget plan that excluded taxes. Trump has pressured Republicans to pass his agenda in “one big, beautiful bill,” aligning with the House’s approach.

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-republicans-release-budget-blueprint-new-tax-cuts-rcna199359

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Senate Republicans release budget blueprint with new tax cuts and a $5 trillion debt limit hike (Original Post) BumRushDaShow 20 hrs ago OP
The "Magical Math" is designed to keep constituents (inc. MAGA) from no_hypocrisy 20 hrs ago #1
"exploring their options to challenge the approach" pat_k 20 hrs ago #2
So How Are We (And We Only) modrepub 19 hrs ago #3
We'll need the 5 trillion to put a functioing government back in place mpcamb 15 hrs ago #8
If it cuts to zero, why do they need $5 trillion to pay for it? UpInArms 18 hrs ago #4
The irony BumRushDaShow 17 hrs ago #5
GWB destroyed this country's fiscal health UpInArms 16 hrs ago #6
And the $1.5 TRILLION in cuts are? Bengus81 15 hrs ago #7

no_hypocrisy

(50,949 posts)
1. The "Magical Math" is designed to keep constituents (inc. MAGA) from
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 04:01 AM
20 hrs ago

protesting the $5 trillion added to the $36 trillion and the deep cuts to Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.

The Republicans and TSF will go to their graves insisting that there will be a ZERO INCREASE.

Cory Booker may have to return for another 25 hours to explain this.

pat_k

(11,085 posts)
2. "exploring their options to challenge the approach"
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 04:08 AM
20 hrs ago

There had better be some good f-ing options.

modrepub

(3,792 posts)
3. So How Are We (And We Only)
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 04:28 AM
19 hrs ago

Going to finance all this government debt AND finance all these new factories on US soil without foreign financing?

Americans are such good savers, right?

mpcamb

(3,045 posts)
8. We'll need the 5 trillion to put a functioing government back in place
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 08:40 AM
15 hrs ago

when trump/musk are done depleting our health, our protections, our services and our saftey,
not to mention the economic damage.

UpInArms

(52,456 posts)
4. If it cuts to zero, why do they need $5 trillion to pay for it?
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 05:54 AM
18 hrs ago

I am so sick of these things

BumRushDaShow

(149,992 posts)
5. The irony
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 06:35 AM
17 hrs ago

is that whenever Democrats attempted to raise the debt ceiling TO FUND ACTUAL GROWTH, the GOP delayed and delayed, bringing the country to the brink of collapse with "fiscal cliffs", and severely damaging the U.S.'s credit rating. They ran Obama through a fire-engulfed gauntlet back in 2011, forcing passage of -

S.365 - Budget Control Act of 2011

Note what went on with the above (from a Rice University think tank named for the Swiss Army knife GOPer, James Baker, who held multiple positions under Raygun and Poppy, and he is still around, soon to turn 95 this month) -

Reflecting on the Budget Control Act of 2011 and Its Relevance Now

February 16, 2023 | John W. Diamond, Autumn Engebretson

(snip)

In the several decades prior to 2011, increases in the debt ceiling normally occurred without debate. However, the significant and rapid growth in the federal budget deficit and debt following the Great Recession[1] led to calls for a reduction in the level of government spending. In 2011, the deficit as a percent of GDP was 8.4%, after peaking at 9.8% in 2009. Figure 1 shows the sharp rise in debt held by the public as a share of GDP during this time. It rose from 38.7% in 2008 to 64.3% in 2011.[2] It has since increased to 96.4% in 2021.

Many politicians and pundits argued that, without intervention, the U.S. debt would continue to grow as a share of GDP and have adverse effects on U.S. economic growth. The debt-ceiling crisis centered on the argument made by House Republicans that in exchange for an increase in the debt ceiling, the president would have to agree to a reduction in government spending and the federal deficit. Note, however, that there was bipartisan concern about the level of federal budget deficits and debt, as evidenced by the vote on HR 1954 (a bill to increase the debt ceiling as President Obama requested) on May 31, 2011: It failed by a vote of 318 to 97, with 236 Republicans and 82 Democrats voting against the bill.[3]

What Did the BCA Do?

In response to the crisis, the BCA was enacted in 2011. The BCA increased the debt ceiling by $400 billion in August 2011 and allowed President Obama to request additional increases of $500 billion and $1.2 trillion. The BCA included $917 billion in direct spending reductions over 10 years to offset the initial increase of $900 billion in the debt ceiling, with only $21 billion of the increase occurring in 2012. The $1.2 trillion increase in the debt ceiling was contingent on efforts to reduce the spending by an equal amount. To this end, the BCA created the Joint Committee of Deficit Reduction, required a vote on a balanced budget amendment, and stipulated across-the-board cuts to mandatory and discretionary spending if Congress failed to act to offset the $1.2 trillion increase in the debt ceiling.

(snip)


But when it comes time for them to give out goodies to their billionaire buddies, no such thing happens and magical solutions are found. And for the Senate bill, we're talking about raising the debt ceiling by $5 TRILLION.

UpInArms

(52,456 posts)
6. GWB destroyed this country's fiscal health
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 07:31 AM
16 hrs ago

leaving us with TARP … undermining the USPS … 2 pointless wars …

Bengus81

(8,532 posts)
7. And the $1.5 TRILLION in cuts are?
Thu Apr 3, 2025, 08:26 AM
15 hrs ago

Let me guess........

Social Security
Medicare
Medicaid
ACA
mortgage interest deduction
VA's cut to the bone


etc...etc...etc...

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