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demmiblue

(38,212 posts)
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 05:51 PM Mar 28

Musk's xAI buys social media platform X for $45 billion

Source: Reuters

March 28 (Reuters) - Elon Musk said on Friday that his xAI has acquired X, the social media app formerly known as Twitter, in an all-stock transaction for $45 billion, including debt.

"xAI and X's futures are intertwined. Today, we officially take the step to combine the data, models, compute, distribution and talent," Musk said in a post on X, adding that the combined company would be valued at $80 billion.

The billionaire's AI startup, which was launched in 2023, recently raised $6 billion from investors at a valuation of $40 billion, sources have told Reuters.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/musks-xai-buys-social-media-platform-x-45-billion-2025-03-28/

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Musk's xAI buys social media platform X for $45 billion (Original Post) demmiblue Mar 28 OP
Worth $80 billion UpInArms Mar 28 #1
I wouldn't pay $8 for both of them. sinkingfeeling Mar 28 #8
Financial engineering C_U_L8R Mar 28 #2
I think Elon bought X from his own funds...I think $44BB? OAITW r.2.0 Mar 28 #14
No, he didn't. Xitter owes billions to banks with a huge payment due. Eugene Mar 29 #24
Thanks for setting me straight on that. OAITW r.2.0 Mar 29 #25
How long before it buys TSLA? Red Mountain Mar 28 #3
I think the computer systems for xAI are located in Kentucky. Musk wants to use xAI to house all of our government data. John1956PA Mar 28 #4
AI flipping votes................. Lovie777 Mar 28 #5
Bingo. Think. Again. Mar 28 #12
If xAI is being trained using input from X, then it is garbage. Garbage in, garbage out shall be the whole of the law. Midnight Writer Mar 28 #6
Self dealing bullshit. Voltaire2 Mar 28 #7
😒 tanyev Mar 28 #9
I'm no major player in the market, BUT BobsYourUncle Mar 28 #10
xAI investors finding out they just bailed out Musk by buying twitter for $40B, tens of billions more than it was worth mathematic Mar 28 #11
I guess he can hide the actual value of x by paying whatever he wants for it. Think. Again. Mar 28 #13
From tech journalist/editor Casey Newton on Bluesky: highplainsdem Mar 28 #15
It will just be another boondoggle. nt BootinUp Mar 28 #16
...and in the end the investors will be left holding bags of AI-generated dog turds. LudwigPastorius Mar 28 #17
Imagine some schlub i n south central PA who gets up and works everyday for Prairie Gates Mar 28 #18
Shenanigans JoseBalow Mar 28 #19
So if I use all my own money to buy all my own money, does that mean that I now have twice as much of my own money?? NBachers Mar 29 #20
Fidelity valued twitter ar 9billion Nululu Mar 29 #21
Sell your own company worth $10B to yourself for $45B and it becomes worth $45B. DetlefK Mar 29 #22
Abracadabra $80 billion angryxyouth Mar 29 #23
"Compute" is a noun now ? It's so hard to keep up with the degradation of literacy. nt eppur_se_muova Mar 29 #26

OAITW r.2.0

(29,903 posts)
14. I think Elon bought X from his own funds...I think $44BB?
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 07:51 PM
Mar 28

Now he's selling it to another corporation he controls....but they own the platform now and he gets his personal money (plus a 1BB more) out.

Eugene

(64,330 posts)
24. No, he didn't. Xitter owes billions to banks with a huge payment due.
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 07:12 AM
Mar 29

There were also substantial investment from the Saudis and billionaires like Larry Ellison. He broke promises to Tesla investors by selling substantial amounts of Tesla stock, and substantial funds were borrowed from SpaceX.

Elon Musk's cash comes from borrowing against the value of his Tesla stock, pumped up by investor's money. xAI is the latest gimmick to hustle new investor's money, which will now bail out another one of his ventures.

Financial engineering that would make Charles Ponzi proud.

Red Mountain

(2,059 posts)
3. How long before it buys TSLA?
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 05:59 PM
Mar 28

At what inflated value?

I hope anybody who doesn't have the money to lose gets away from the Musk companies sooner rather than later.

John1956PA

(3,908 posts)
4. I think the computer systems for xAI are located in Kentucky. Musk wants to use xAI to house all of our government data.
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 06:00 PM
Mar 28

He wants to transfer SSA data to xAI. It is part of his plan to keeps tabs on everyone. And yet, 98% of the GOP approve of Trump giving Musk such power over all of us.

Midnight Writer

(23,663 posts)
6. If xAI is being trained using input from X, then it is garbage. Garbage in, garbage out shall be the whole of the law.
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 06:02 PM
Mar 28

Voltaire2

(15,366 posts)
7. Self dealing bullshit.
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 06:03 PM
Mar 28

Tesla stock is tanking and it is the collateral backing the money he borrowed to purchase Twitter. Twitter wasn’t worth 45B then and it is likely worth about 1/3 of that now.

BobsYourUncle

(169 posts)
10. I'm no major player in the market, BUT
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 06:29 PM
Mar 28

my first thought on reading the OP was
“Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!”

Elon, me thinks, is an expert on Ponzi scheming!

mathematic

(1,559 posts)
11. xAI investors finding out they just bailed out Musk by buying twitter for $40B, tens of billions more than it was worth
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 07:00 PM
Mar 28

Of course if there were shenanigans in this deal it's not like there's anybody that's going to investigate.

Think. Again.

(22,330 posts)
13. I guess he can hide the actual value of x by paying whatever he wants for it.
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 07:10 PM
Mar 28

He had xai buy x with all xai stock, so now x basically owns xai because x owns all of xai's stock, although xai owns x on paper, and the total value of the two combined isn't the sum of both the sale price and the value of the stock used to buy x (80B), it's only the value of the xai stockstock (40B) because that's the only tangible thing of value left after this deal, and x owns that.

So, x owns 40B of xai stock, making x's assets worth 40B, but xai doesn't own any assets except the same 40B of xai stock because it owns x's assets.

highplainsdem

(55,263 posts)
15. From tech journalist/editor Casey Newton on Bluesky:
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 08:13 PM
Mar 28
https://bsky.app/profile/caseynewton.bsky.social/post/3llhrnz5klc2v

Casey Newton
‪@caseynewton.bsky.social‬

It has long been clear that this was X’s final destination … as the data generation arm of a slop factory

Prairie Gates

(4,756 posts)
18. Imagine some schlub i n south central PA who gets up and works everyday for
Fri Mar 28, 2025, 10:25 PM
Mar 28

$45,000 a year supporting this mental defective con artist throwing billions around for a completely moronic social media platform.

So fucking pathetic and sad.

NBachers

(18,427 posts)
20. So if I use all my own money to buy all my own money, does that mean that I now have twice as much of my own money??
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 01:15 AM
Mar 29

Nululu

(1,035 posts)
21. Fidelity valued twitter ar 9billion
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 02:20 AM
Mar 29

Others circling to buy it from banks that loaned him the money. A method to stave off debt collection or auction.

DetlefK

(16,623 posts)
22. Sell your own company worth $10B to yourself for $45B and it becomes worth $45B.
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 02:45 AM
Mar 29

Twitter is not worth $45B.
Twitter was worth $10B when Musk got himself sued into buying it for the $45B he had floated publicly to game the market.

And what exactly has Musk changed at Twitter, so that it would actually be worth those $45B?

angryxyouth

(211 posts)
23. Abracadabra $80 billion
Sat Mar 29, 2025, 02:48 AM
Mar 29

Didn’t banks write down at a loss $5.5 billion but still hold $13 billion. I’m sure the banks will be paid back fairly after this deal.🤪

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