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mahatmakanejeeves

(64,026 posts)
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 02:39 PM Feb 22

Vatican says Pope Francis is in critical condition

Source: Associated Press

Vatican says Pope Francis is in critical condition

BY NICOLE WINFIELD AND SILVIA STELLACCI
Updated 1:22 PM EST, February 22, 2025

ROME (AP) -- Pope Francis was in critical condition Saturday after he suffered a long asthmatic respiratory crisis that required high flows of oxygen, the Vatican said.

The 88-year-old Francis, who has been hospitalized for a week with a complex lung infection, also received blood transfusions after tests showed a condition associated with anemia, the Vatican said in a late update. ... "The Holy Father continues to be alert and spent the day in an armchair although in more pain than yesterday. At the moment the prognosis is reserved," the statement said.

Earlier, doctors said that Francis was battling a pneumonia and a complex respiratory infection that doctors say remains touch-and-go and will keep him hospitalized for at least another week.

The Vatican carried on with its Holy Year celebrations without the pope on Saturday. ... In a brief earlier update on Saturday, Francis slept well overnight. ... But doctors have warned that the main threat facing Francis would be the onset of sepsis, a serious infection of the blood that can occur as a complication of pneumonia. As of Friday, there was no evidence of any sepsis, and Francis was responding to the various drugs he is taking, the pope's medical team said in their first in-depth update on the pope's condition.

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Read more: https://apnews.com/article/pope-francis-pneumonia-sepsis-vatican-respiratory-infection-bab5b9a141517171d4efc71fadafa0a4



Hat tip, Joe .My.God.

Vatican Says Pope Francis Now In Critical Condition
February 22, 2025

https://www.joemygod.com/2025/02/vatican-says-pope-francis-now-in-critical-condition/

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https://kstp.com/world/vatican-says-pope-francis-is-in-critical-condition/

By NICOLE WINFIELD and SILVIA STELLACCI The Associated Press
Updated: 7 minutes ago
Published: February 22, 2025 - 6:34 AM
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Vatican says Pope Francis is in critical condition (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Feb 22 OP
A *lot*of people are suffering from a dangerous pneumonia after catching the flu lapfog_1 Feb 22 #1
So sorry to hear this. I hope you will have better... 3catwoman3 Feb 22 #5
she is better now ( this weekend ), so I think the worst is over lapfog_1 Feb 22 #6
Reassuring to hear that she is in med school, so at least she is somewhere... 3catwoman3 Feb 22 #8
The pope has bacterial, viral and fungal pneumonia all in one! And he's needing blood transfusions. LeftInTX Feb 22 #10
Ooof, that sounds extremely serious FakeNoose Feb 22 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author lapfog_1 Feb 22 #2
Sepsis is difficult to treat, especially in older people. generalbetrayus Feb 22 #3
Nevertheless, I pray he pulls through. ificandream Feb 22 #4
I pray for Pope Francis. markodochartaigh Feb 22 #7
Francis will be my last Pope if the Church veers any further to the right. hunter Feb 23 #25
People are praying for him, he'll be fine JoseBalow Feb 22 #9
Guess who is going to... 2naSalit Feb 22 #11
This would depend on whether white smoke or black smoke appears kskiska Feb 22 #14
He will probably demand he be named Pope. BlueKota Feb 23 #27
Both good points... 2naSalit Feb 23 #32
His condition must really be grave if the Vatican says he's critical. SunSeeker Feb 22 #13
He's been the most progressive pope in my lifetime kimbutgar Feb 22 #15
Exactly Hekate Feb 22 #17
He's so progressive he didn't see the difference between Kamala and tsf. nt jrthin Feb 23 #26
Pope Francis is one of the good ones on the world stage. I wish him well. Hekate Feb 22 #16
I want him alive for a very long time so he can reflect on his decision to refuse to endorse Harris because she wasn't rainin Feb 22 #18
It wouldn't claudette Feb 23 #30
The man has a lot on his plate. Botany Feb 22 #19
he actually only has one lung -- the other was removed during childhood cadoman Feb 23 #23
Partially removed DenaliDemocrat Feb 23 #24
I read that he was claudette Feb 23 #31
The term "high flow oxygen" TNNurse Feb 22 #20
I expect Musk/tRump will try to stage a coup BigmanPigman Feb 22 #21
We all die. I am sure the Pope is ready given his beliefs. n't elocs Feb 23 #22
🙏 claudette Feb 23 #28
Praying for Pope Francis BlueKota Feb 23 #29
A few years ago I survived sepsis. Didn't have any idea how close I was to death. multigraincracker Feb 23 #33
I had sepsis last year. greatauntoftriplets Feb 23 #34
My RN wife has saved my life a few times now. She made me go to the ER. multigraincracker Feb 23 #36
Good for her. greatauntoftriplets Feb 23 #37
He's a Jesuit. LeftInTX Feb 23 #35

lapfog_1

(30,750 posts)
1. A *lot*of people are suffering from a dangerous pneumonia after catching the flu
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 02:48 PM
Feb 22

my step daughter being one of them. 2 weeks fighting pneumonia... multiple trips to the hospital...
it's been a nightmare... and she is 22 years old.

lapfog_1

(30,750 posts)
6. she is better now ( this weekend ), so I think the worst is over
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 03:16 PM
Feb 22

but then she is a healthy 22 year old, fully vaccinated against everything.

OTOH, she is already doing hospital rounds as part of her medical school course work. Which I do worry about.

3catwoman3

(26,457 posts)
8. Reassuring to hear that she is in med school, so at least she is somewhere...
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 03:25 PM
Feb 22

...where good care should be readily available. And where she won't, or shouldn't, get scoffed at for taking strict precautions.

My nursing undergrad degree is from a well regarded institution, the University of Rochester in upstate NY, and that forever set my standards for what I consider an acceptable level of care. I will never live anywhere remote or underserved.

LeftInTX

(32,761 posts)
10. The pope has bacterial, viral and fungal pneumonia all in one! And he's needing blood transfusions.
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 03:56 PM
Feb 22

It does not look good...

Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

generalbetrayus

(824 posts)
3. Sepsis is difficult to treat, especially in older people.
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 02:54 PM
Feb 22

After repeated bladder infections, my 84-year-old mother died of sepsis.

markodochartaigh

(2,534 posts)
7. I pray for Pope Francis.
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 03:21 PM
Feb 22

I also am very concerned that the authoritarian forces behind the recent anti-democritization of the US have plans in place to elect a far more right wing pope when the time comes.

kskiska

(27,138 posts)
14. This would depend on whether white smoke or black smoke appears
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 04:51 PM
Feb 22

when a new Pope was elected. I remember the one year where the color was undetectable.

BlueKota

(4,142 posts)
27. He will probably demand he be named Pope.
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 12:28 PM
Feb 23

Oh, but he'd probably look at that as a demotion as he already believes he's God!

SunSeeker

(55,332 posts)
13. His condition must really be grave if the Vatican says he's critical.
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 04:35 PM
Feb 22

Sounds like his double pneumonia has turned into sepsis.

rainin

(3,228 posts)
18. I want him alive for a very long time so he can reflect on his decision to refuse to endorse Harris because she wasn't
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 05:36 PM
Feb 22

anti-abortion. We could have used his help when it mattered. I'm salty.

claudette

(5,261 posts)
30. It wouldn't
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 12:32 PM
Feb 23

have changed the mind of any magat or white men who either stayed home or voted magat because they didn’t want a woman president

Botany

(73,710 posts)
19. The man has a lot on his plate.
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 05:52 PM
Feb 22

The Pope has a lot of things going on organic lung disease, fungal, bacterial and viral
infections of his air ways above his lungs and double pneumonia too.

“Doctors first diagnosed the complex viral, bacterial and fungal respiratory tract infection and then the onset of pneumonia in both lungs. They prescribed “absolute rest” and a combination of cortisone and antibiotics, along with supplemental oxygen when he needs it. Saturday’s update marked the first time the Vatican has referred to Francis suffering an “asthmatic respiratory crisis of prolonged magnitude, which also required the application of oxygen at high flows.””

TNNurse

(7,294 posts)
20. The term "high flow oxygen"
Sat Feb 22, 2025, 06:49 PM
Feb 22

may or may not mean mechanical ventilation ( ventilator or respirator as some still call), but it is damn close.

Will he recover? As someone who has worked in critical care...impossible to say, but not encouraging. But I have seen recover when no one expected it.

BlueKota

(4,142 posts)
29. Praying for Pope Francis
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 12:31 PM
Feb 23

I have disagreed with him on a number of issues, but on others he has done some good.

multigraincracker

(35,295 posts)
33. A few years ago I survived sepsis. Didn't have any idea how close I was to death.
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 12:43 PM
Feb 23

Haven't been the same since.
I wish him well as he was a Franciscan. Not perfect, still a little authoritarian, but nice to animals and the poor.
I was in Rome when he was made Pope and many locals told me the rich will poison him. I'm glad he made it this far.

greatauntoftriplets

(177,445 posts)
34. I had sepsis last year.
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 12:50 PM
Feb 23

Fortunately I was at the hospital for a minor procedure, started feeling off, and immediately went to the ER. My blood pressure was 44/33 there so they admitted me quickly. My case never got nearly as bad as yours, though I was hospitalized for a week.

You're very lucky to have survived it. It's one scary disease.

greatauntoftriplets

(177,445 posts)
37. Good for her.
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 01:01 PM
Feb 23

If I'd been home when I started feeling strange, I probably would have dismissed it and been a lot sicker. It took an hour at most from the end of my procedure to being on IVs. The ER wasn't busy that day, and I went from triage to an ER room in minutes. Still can't believe my luck.

I'm sorry that you're suffering after-effects from it.

LeftInTX

(32,761 posts)
35. He's a Jesuit.
Sun Feb 23, 2025, 12:53 PM
Feb 23

He's got a combination of viral, fungal and bacterial pneumonia. He's also needed transfusions, so it tells me that whatever it is, is somehow systemic. I don't think he's gonna make it.

My mom's appendix ruptured, but she never had pain, so they didn't know she had a ruptured appendix, but she was in shock. This went on for two days. Finally, they did some imaging and saw the ruptured appendix. They had to open her up and wash out her entire peritoneum.

Note: Both the Jesuits and Franciscans were active missionaries in the colonizing of the Americas. However, for some reason the Jesuits were expelled by the king of Spain and were replaced with Franciscans. They did return after the colonization periods were over.

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