Trump fires Chairman of the Joint Chiefs
Source: Associated Pressure
WASHINGTON (AP) President Donald Trump abruptly fired Air Force Gen. CQ Brown as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff on Friday, sidelining a history-making fighter pilot and respected officer as part of a campaign to rid the military of leaders who support diversity and equity in the ranks.
The ouster of Brown, only the second Black general to serve as chairman, is sure to send shock waves through the Pentagon. His 16 months in the job had been consumed with the war in Ukraine and the expanded conflict in the Middle East.
Read more: https://apnews.com/article/trump-brown-joint-chiefs-of-staff-firing-fa428cc1508a583b3bf5e7a5a58f6acf

ancianita
(40,215 posts)The felon will chip away at military leadership while Hegseth and Rubio ruin global trust in the U.S.
One hopes that the alienated allies don't blame the American people overall.
Irish_Dem
(67,248 posts)ancianita
(40,215 posts)DEI (F all the 'woke' PR) has helped the US Military; in fact, the military has been the most non-ideological sector of the US after WWII. Which is one reason the national public majority polled in favor of DEI as reported on Rachel last night. DEI is a weapon against race/gender prejudice. The public knows this.
So here's Lt. General John D. Caine
https://www.af.mil/About-Us/Biographies/Display/Article/2942633/john-d-caine/
Lt. Gen. Dan Caine was sworn in as the Associate Director for Military Affairs, Central Intelligence Agency, Washington, D.C., Nov. 3, 2021. His most recent assignment was as the Director of Special Programs and the Department of Defense special Access Program Central Office at the Pentagon, Arlington, Virginia, where he served as the principal staff assistant and advisor to the Secretary of Defense for all programs protected under special access controls. He has served in a wide range of operational, staff and joint assignments, primarily as an F-16 fighter pilot, weapons officer, member of the White House staff and special operations officer.
Lt. Gen. Caine was commissioned in 1990 through the ROTC program at the Virginia Military Institute and he has a Master of Arts in Air Warfare from the American Military University. He has completed a range of national security and leadership courses, including Harvard Kennedy School's course for Senior Executives in National and International Security, and the Syracuse University Maxwell School's Program on National Security. As a command pilot, he has logged more than 2,800 hours in the F-16, including more than 150 combat hours. From 2009-2016, Caine was a part-time member of the National Guard and a serial entrepreneur and investor.
EDUCATION
1990 Bachelor of Arts, Economics, Virginia Military Institute, Lexington
1998 Squadron Officer School, Maxwell Air Force Base, Ala., by correspondence
1999 Air Force Weapons School Instructor Course, Nellis Air Force Base, Nev.
2001 Air Force Air to Ground Operations School, Nellis, AFB, Nev.
2004 Air Command and Staff College, Maxwell AFB, Ala., by correspondence
2005 Master of Arts, Air Warfare, American Military University, Charles Town, W.Va.
2006 White House Fellow, Air Force Fellows Program, U.S. Department of Agriculture, Washington, D.C.
2012 North American Aerospace Defense Command/U.S. Northern Command Joint Task Force Commander Training Course, Peterson AFB, Colo.
2012 Senior Leaders Maintenance Course, Washington, D.C.
2017 Joint and Combined Warfighting Course (JPME-2), Norfolk, Va.
2019 Capstone, National Defense University, Fort Lesley J. McNair, Washington, D.C.
2019 Senior Executives for National and International Security, The Harvard Kennedy School, Cambridge, Mass.
2020 Advanced Senior Leader Development Seminar (ASLDS), Arlie Center, Warrenton, Va.
2020 National and International Security Leadership Seminar (NISLS), Alan L. Freed Associates, Alexandria, Va.
2021 National Security Studies Management Course (NSSMC), Syracuse University, Syracuse, N.Y.
ASSIGNMENTS
1. November 1992December 1993, Student, EURO-NATO Undergraduate Pilot Training, 80th Flying Training Wing, Sheppard Air Force Base, Texas
2. January 1994April 1994, F-16 Pilot/Assistant Training Officer/Scheduling Officer, 138th Fighter Squadron, Syracuse Air National Guard Base, N.Y.
3. April 1994June 1995, F-16 Pilot/Assistant Weapons Officer, 138th FS, Syracuse ANG, N.Y.
4. June 1995November 1995, F-16 Instructor Pilot/Chief of Scheduling and Training, 138th FS, Syracuse ANG, N.Y.
5. November 1995April 1998, F-16 Instructor Pilot/Chief of Training, 138th FS, Syracuse ANG, N.Y.
6. April 1998July 1998, F-16 Instructor Pilot/Chief of Weapons, 138th FS, Syracuse ANG, N.Y.
7. July 1998January 1999, F-16 Instructor Pilot/Chief of Weapons, 121st FS, Andrews AFB, Md.
8. January 1999June 1999, Student, F-16 Fighter Weapons School, 57th Fighter Wing, Nellis AFB, Nev.
9. June 1999November 2001, F-16 Instructor Pilot/Flight Commander/Chief of Weapons and Tactics, 121st FS, Andrews AFB, Md.
10. November 2001February 2002, F-16 Mission Commander/Chief of Group Weapons and Tactics, 332nd Air Expeditionary Group, Ahmed Al Jaber Air Base, Kuwait
11. February 2002January 2003, Counter SCUD Project Officer, United States Central Command, MacDill AFB, Fla.
12. January 2003May 2003, F-16 Mission Commander/Flight Commander/Chief of Wing Weapons and Tactics, 410th Air Expeditionary Wing, location masked
13. May 2003January 2005, Chief of Weapons and Current Operations, ANG AFRC Test Center, Tucson ANG, Ariz.
14. January 2005August 2005, Director of Operations, ANG AFRC Test Center, Tucson ANG, Ariz.
15. August 2005September 2006, White House Fellow, Special Assistant to the Secretary, United States Department of Agriculture, Washington, D.C.
16. October 2006January 2008, Policy Director for Counterterrorism and Strategy, White House Homeland Security Council, Executive Office of the President, Washington, D.C.
17. January 2008July 2008, J3 and Commander, Joint Special Operations Task Force - Air Directorate, Balad, Iraq
18. July 2008November 2010, F-16 Instructor Pilot/Mission Commander, 121st FS, Andrews AFB, Md. (July 2008March 2010, Special Tactics Air Liaison Officer, 24th Special Tactics Squadron, Joint Special Operations Command, Pope AFB, N.C.)
19. November 2010June 2012, Director of Operations (A3)/Deputy Director of Joint Operations (J3), Joint Force Headquarters, District of Columbia ANG, Washington, D.C.
20. June 2012June 2014, Commander, 113th Maintenance Group, Joint Base Andrews, Md.
21. June 2014May 2016, Director of Joint Operations and Training (J3), Joint Force Headquarters, District of Columbia ANG, Washington, D.C.
22. May 2016June 2016, Deputy Commanding General, Air, Joint Force Headquarters, District of Columbia ANG, Washington, D.C.
23. June 2016May 2018, June 2016May 2018, Assistant to the Vice Commander, U.S. Special Operations Command, Special Operations Command Washington Office, the Pentagon, Arlington, Va. and Assistant Commanding General, Joint Special Operations Command, U.S. Special Operations Command, Fort Bragg, N.C. (concurrently)
24. May 2018September 2019, Deputy Commanding General, U.S. Central Command Special Operations Component and Deputy Commanding General - Special Operations Joint Task Force - Operation Inherent Resolve (Iraq) (concurrently)
25. September 2019September 2021, Director, Special Programs and Director, Special Access Programs Central Office, Va.
26. September 2021November 2021, Special Assistant to the Chief, National Guard Bureau, Washington, D.C.
27. November 2021present, Associate Director for Military Affairs, Central Intelligence Agency, Washington, D.C.
SUMMARY OF JOINT ASSIGNMENTS
1. February 2002January 2003, Counter SCUD Project Officer, United States Central Command, MacDill Air Force Base, Fla., as a major
2. August 2005September 2006, White House Fellow, Special Assistant to the Secretary, United States Department of Agriculture, Washington, D.C., as a lieutenant colonel
3. October 2006January 2008, Policy Director for Counterterrorism and Strategy, White House Homeland Security Council, Executive Office of the President, Washington, D.C., as a lieutenant colonel
4. January 2008July 2008, J3 and Commander, Joint Special Operations Task Force - Air Directorate, Balad, Iraq, as a lieutenant colonel
5. June 2016May 2018, June 2016May 2018, Assistant to the Vice Commander, U.S. Special Operations Command, Special Operations Command Washington Office, the Pentagon, Arlington, Va. and Assistant Commanding General, Joint Special Operations Command, U.S. Special Operations Command, Fort Bragg, N.C. (concurrently), as a brigadier general
6. May 2018September 2019, Deputy Commanding General, U.S. Central Command Special Operations Component and Deputy Commanding General - Special Operations Joint Task Force - Operation Inherent Resolve (Iraq) (concurrently), as a brigadier general
FLIGHT INFORMATION
Rating: command pilot
Flight hours: 2,800 hours, to include more than 100 combat hours
Aircraft flown: T-37, T-38, F-16
MAJOR AWARDS AND DECORATIONS
Defense Superior Service Medal
Distinguished Flying Cross
Bronze Star Medal with bronze oak leaf cluster
Defense Meritorious Service Medal
Meritorious Service Medal
Air Medal with bronze oak leaf cluster
Aerial Achievement Medal
Air Force Commendation Medal with two bronze oak leaf clusters
Joint Service Achievement Medal
Air Force Achievement Medal
Air Force Outstanding Unit Award with V device and four bronze oak leaf clusters
Combat Readiness Medal
National Defense Service Medal with bronze campaign star
Iraq Campaign Medal
Global War on Terrorism Expeditionary Medal
Global War on Terrorism Service Medal
Air Force Expeditionary Service Medal
Air Force Longevity Service Award with three bronze oak leaf clusters
Armed Forces Reserve Medal with hourglass device
Air Force Training Ribbon
Presidential Service Badge
OTHER ACHIEVEMENTS
1992 Distinguished Graduate, EURO-NATO Undergraduate Pilot Training
1999 Outstanding Graduate, USAF F-16 Weapons School
2004 Lieutenant General Claire Chennault Award as the Air Force's Outstanding Aerial Tactician
Multiple Civilian Pilot Ratings, including Air Transport Pilot
PUBLICATIONS
The Air Force Book, The Air Force Association, September 11th vignette
Concept of Operations for the location, identification and destruction of Scud Missiles, Operation Iraqi Freedom, 2003
Hurricane Katrina Lessons Learned Report, The White House, March 2006
The National Strategy for Homeland Security, The White House, October 2007
Irish_Dem
(67,248 posts)A president can waive those requirements.
ancianita
(40,215 posts)Irish_Dem
(67,248 posts)It states that to be qualified, a chairman must have served previously as either the vice chairman, or as a combatant commander or a service chief.
So this guy doesn't have the high level leadership experience needed for the job.
CIA and National Guard, SMH.
His resume is not that impressive for a USAF General.
Certainly not for a Joint Chief.
ancianita
(40,215 posts)Did you look over his assignments?
It's hard to see where his CIA service ends and military service begins.
So now what. It's not as if the current felon CiC has given an illegal order. Or is it. Who'd even have standing to mount a legal challenge under the The 1986 Goldwater-Nichols Act? And is it a priority fight, even.
Seems to me that our veteran folks here might keep an eye on how the military's structure changes and what that means.
Irish_Dem
(67,248 posts)This guy's experience is primarily as an F-16 fighter pilot, weapons officer, member of the White House staff and special operations officer.
Could be a Colonel or one star general.
ancianita
(40,215 posts)I was an officer's wife during the Vietnam war, lived on base at Fort Gordon, GA. I know more than most civilians about military life, but still don't know how the military system advances officers. For all I know, he's qualified. If DU military vets can explain one way or another, that would be helpful.
Irish_Dem
(67,248 posts)You don't need to be a military vet to read the law, and read comments from military officers.
Basically this guy is a fighter pilot and special ops officer.
A few leadership roles, nothing noteworthy.
Basically a pilot who did some secret squirrel stuff for the CIA.
Not impressive in the least.
From the Air and Space Forces Magazine, 2/21/25
https://www.airandspaceforces.com/brown-generals-fired-trump/
Caine never served in those roles.
However, the law also states the those requirements can be waived if the President determines such action is necessary in the national interest. Congress must confirm any nomination.
Caine retired in December after a tour as Associate Director for Military Affairs at the CIA. Trump has repeatedly praised him in public going back to his first term in office.
I am a USAF kid and know full well that somne generals are highly qualified. Others are cheaters, schnmoers and ass kissers who make their rank that way. It is obvious how this guy made his rank.
ancianita
(40,215 posts)AverageOldGuy
(2,513 posts). . . who is a recently-retired USAF colonel and a real sonofabitch just called me, burned up the phone line, said Caine is not fit for the job. He also had some unpleasant comments about Trump and SECDEF Hogsbreath.
Irish_Dem
(67,248 posts)He probably has more bonafides than Caine.
NotHardly
(2,049 posts)mjvpi
(1,615 posts)SilasSouleII
(480 posts)n/t
FuzzyRabbit
(2,138 posts)markodochartaigh
(2,534 posts)military has been the most non-ideological sector of the US after WWII."
One can certainly make a case that this was a good thing when the ideologies were Republican party vs. Democratic party, both committed to democracy.
This is no longer the case. The US has only one party committed to democracy now. If the upper echelons in the military, in politics, in education, in the press, and in business don't come to terms with this reality very quickly, I think that I can predict where we will end up.
ancianita
(40,215 posts)...and I've always got questions. What's the military's momentum right now?
We have to take into account that we don't see it, shouldn't see it, and that "politics, in education, in the press, and in business" are probably not supposed to see it, either. Such behind the scenes work uses classified AI, Big Tech and major classified intelligence and counterintelligence systems.
Can we believe or trust that upper echelons of the military would, behind civilian scenes, gather their evidence of illegal orders (which I've not yet seen evidence of), act on their oath and without any warning stop this lawless civilian government in a way that protects and defends the US Constitution?
That would be an historic event I personally and politically look forward to.
Sorry for rambling. I probably need sleep.

markodochartaigh
(2,534 posts)that whatever the military does will be behind the scenes. It seems like in other countries what the military does is sometimes a complete surprise. It is ironic, civilian control of the military is supposed to be a good thing, but when the civilian commander in chief is compromised it is a whole new game.
I hope that you sleep as well as is possible. I hope that I do too.
Cognitive_Resonance
(1,559 posts)jeffreyi
(2,325 posts)Irish_Dem
(67,248 posts)He will have us fight on their side.
jeffreyi
(2,325 posts)
marble falls
(64,355 posts)
usonian
(16,871 posts)F💩
RhapsodyFav
(47 posts)usonian
(16,871 posts)That bingo card position was already taken.
IronLionZion
(48,294 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(64,026 posts)Shield Capital is proud to announce that recently retired Lieutenant General Dan Razin Caine has joined the firm as a Venture Partner.
Burlingame, CA Shield Capital is proud to announce that recently retired Lieutenant General Dan Razin Caine has joined the firm as a Venture Partner. A distinguished leader with decades of experience in military operations, the intelligence community, and entrepreneurship, General Caine brings a unique combination of strategic vision, operational expertise, and technical business acumen to SHIELD.
In addition to his military career, General Caine has extensive entrepreneurial experience, having co-founded and successfully exited multiple aerospace, defense, and healthcare companies. Notably, he served as President of Mayday Holdings and Co-Founder and COO of RISE Air, where he scaled operations and led significant business growth.
Dans extraordinary leadership experience and entrepreneurial success align with SHIELDs mission, said Raj Shah, Shield Capital Managing Partner. His deep national security and market expertise will bring tremendous value to our portfolio companies and investment strategy.
General Caines exceptional career includes serving as the Central Intelligence Agencys Associate Director for Military Affairs (ADMA), the CIA Directors principal advisor on military matters and the primary Liaison between the Agency and the Department of Defense. He served as Assistant Commanding General at the Joint Special Operations Command and mission commander during critical national and global operations as a F-16 pilot, White House Fellow, and principal author of major national security strategies.
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Irish_Dem
(67,248 posts)JohnSJ
(98,302 posts)🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞🤞
Shipwack
(2,562 posts)But Mr Glass Half Empty points out that they are already planning on purging any officer thats soft or woke. Theres even a published list.
Also, you dig far enough down the chain of command, youll eventually find an obsequious dirtbag. I have a dim view of senior officers, though, that might be unwarranted.
LetMyPeopleVote
(160,914 posts)Link to tweet
This is what "America First" looks like? So sad.

JoseBalow
(7,121 posts)
LaMouffette
(2,480 posts)loyalists who will carry out his future orders to impose martial law and even fire upon Americans who take to the streets to protest his turning our country into a Putin-esque dictatorship.
COL Mustard
(7,316 posts)Is just doing what he said he would. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
slightlv
(5,246 posts)He wants everybody back in their places. Women belong at home with the kids; blacks on the plantations (corporations), Mexicans back to their country, even if they were born here; and white males at the top of the heap... if they have enough money to buy their place there. Otherwise, they just have to rely on their own WASP privilege. Oh... and everyone HAS to be christian... except for trump. He's pure as driven snow, according to him and his "pastors"...
Gods! I detest this man! I do hope as things get down to brass tacks with the massive firing of fed workers, the ousting of women and black men from their -earned- positions, and that the price of nothing in the market has come down at all, but only gone upwards in price, that the American people are finally beginning to open their damned eyes and see that the leopards are, indeed, coming to eat THEIR faces!
Irish_Dem
(67,248 posts)NBachers
(18,413 posts)OKIsItJustMe
(21,209 posts)Oh! FFS!
https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/21/politics/trump-fires-top-us-general-cq-brown/index.html
Oren Liebermann
By Oren Liebermann, CNN
4 minute read
Updated 8:32 PM EST, Fri February 21, 2025
CNN: In an unprecedented purge of the militarys senior leadership Friday night, President Donald Trump fired the top US general just moments before his defense secretary fired the chief of the US Navy and others.
In announcing the dismissal, Trump called Joint Chiefs Chairman Charles Q. Brown a fine gentleman and an outstanding leader. Brown is only the second Black man to serve as chairman and was the first Black service chief in US military history when he was confirmed as chief of the Air Force in 2020.
The president hinted at the firings to come in the announcement on his Truth Social platform. Finally, I have also directed [Defense] Secretary [Pete] Hegseth to solicit nominations for five additional high level positions, which will be announced soon, he wrote.
Minutes later, Hegseth released a statement in which he fired Admiral Lisa Franchetti, the chief of the Navy and the first woman to serve on the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
Shipwack
(2,562 posts)Not blaming you, OKIsItJustMe
The woman fired was an admiral that served on the Joint Chiefs of Staff, not a Chief as in Chief Petty Officer.
Calling an officer a Chief is a recipe to get an ass chewing by at least two people
😄
OKIsItJustMe
(21,209 posts)Recording history as it happens can lead to some mistakes.
For all we know, the story may have been written by some overworked AI
jmowreader
(52,069 posts)MissouriDem47
(138 posts)Trump is replacing senior military leadership with his sycophants that will be willing to use the US military against civilians.
OKIsItJustMe
(21,209 posts)Unless you call it the Gulf of America we wont let you attend news conferences.
You know, Reagans team gave the pool gorgeous video footage (staged as if he was some kind of B-Movie star, playing the President.) "Oh, sure, you can use your cameras, and staff
Or, you can just use our video
Its up to you
That was childsplay compared to this guy!
OKIsItJustMe
(21,209 posts)Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth Statement on General Officer Nominations
Feb. 21, 2025 |
This evening the President announced that he intends to nominate Lieutenant General Dan "Razin" Caine, USAF, for the position of Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the nation's highest-ranking military officer, and the principal military advisor to the President, Secretary of Defense, and National Security Council.
I am also requesting nominations for the positions of Chief of Naval Operations and Air Force Vice Chief of Staff. The incumbents in these important roles, Admiral Lisa Franchetti and General James Slife, respectively, have had distinguished careers. We thank them for their service and dedication to our country.
We are also requesting nominations for the Judge Advocates General for the Army, Navy and Air Force.
- Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth
OKIsItJustMe
(21,209 posts)
Aviation Pro
(14,145 posts)Because that's how these motherfuckers roll.
BumRushDaShow
(150,063 posts)so it was only a matter of time before the ax would fall.
OKIsItJustMe
(21,209 posts)Seriously! How long? Failed State
Cheezoholic
(2,841 posts)Figarosmom
(5,042 posts)Anything having to do with anything other than white, Christian males is out.
Daleuhlmann
(590 posts)Last edited Fri Feb 21, 2025, 11:01 PM - Edit history (1)
"MAKE AMERICA WHITE MALE AGAIN!" Is this racist, sexist pig's motto!
OKIsItJustMe
(21,209 posts)All of the most qualified people will be able to get jobs immediately, there are plenty of positions for former federal employees, who have connections, and know the ins and outs of Washington. I agreed, saying, Yeah, they just need to answer the phone, or maybe return the call of one of the headhunters who have been calling them for years but theyve been too loyal to the nation to listen to their offers "
jmowreader
(52,069 posts)Admiral Lisa Franchetti is a woman and he can't have that, but General Jim Slife, the Vice Chief of Staff of the Air Force, is a white man. So, I wonder what Jim Slife did to piss Trump off.
Trump's entering dangerous territory...when a president visits a military base he is saluted with 21 shots fired from a howitzer...what's to say that the gun crew won't "accidentally" slip a live High Explosive shell into one of those guns and set the gun to hit the reviewing stand?
Klarkashton
(3,237 posts)jmowreader
(52,069 posts)maxrandb
(16,453 posts)But EVERY Flag Officer in the military should submit their resignations TONIGHT!
Oh, there are a handful of Donnie Dipshit ball-lickers like Mike Flynn, but I believe they are a minority of the officer corps.
The Returdlicans won't pay a price for the damage they are doing to military readiness, until the military readiness is damaged.
If just half of the Flag Officers were to resign en masse, the chaos would be impossible to "spin", or to hide.
LudwigPastorius
(12,046 posts)the job of Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, but I doubt there will be many protest resignations over this.
I hope, though, that they are keeping that option open for when Trump gives them illegal orders.
orangecrush
(23,977 posts)flashman13
(1,113 posts)SunSeeker
(55,332 posts)
IronLionZion
(48,294 posts)and has never commanded large formations of troops.
So this is more meritocracy and qualifications instead of DEI, of course.
They are installing loyalists who will do whatever Trump wants. The real question for us is what is that going to be? That should worry people.