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BumRushDaShow

(150,063 posts)
Fri Feb 21, 2025, 04:19 AM Feb 21

Once off the table, bills to charge women who get abortions with murder get votes before failing

Source: AP

Updated 3:54 PM EST, February 20, 2025


Abortion rights advocates feared the 2022 U.S. Supreme Court ruling that opened the door to state abortion bans would also lead to tracking women and charging women who get abortions with murder.

No states have allowed either, but the ideas, once off the table, have gotten attention in legislatures this month.

Oklahoma lawmakers killed a bill that would have allowed murder charges after a public hearing, and North Dakota did so after a floor debate. Similar bills have been introduced before, but they haven’t been granted hearings, in part because most major anti-abortion groups oppose them.

A Missouri committee heard testimony on a bill to create a database of pregnant women deemed “at risk” of getting an abortion and connecting them with prospective adoptive parents.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/abortion-punishing-women-tracking-pregnancy-6f809d3a519ff28dedd9a1d05b4c8a62

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Once off the table, bills to charge women who get abortions with murder get votes before failing (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Feb 21 OP
Fucking religious fanaticism Duncanpup Feb 21 #1
A nightmare of cruelty and humiliation Hekate Feb 21 #2
Exactly that! DFW Feb 21 #3
It's called Liberty University Ray Bruns Feb 21 #4
You're going to lower the abortion rate to zero 4catsmom Feb 21 #5
If I were a Rebl2 Feb 21 #7
I have advised my 5 granddaughters to find opportunities elsewhere.. mountain grammy Feb 21 #12
If passed by a red state, such a law would be selectively applied only to minority women. Lonestarblue Feb 21 #6
We are in Gilead. niyad Feb 21 #8
Do they believe their rhetoric or not? maxsolomon Feb 21 #9
" would have allowed murder charges after a public hearing," Grins Feb 21 #10
No, they had a public hearing for advancing the bill... Volaris Feb 21 #11

DFW

(57,636 posts)
3. Exactly that!
Fri Feb 21, 2025, 05:02 AM
Feb 21

Is there a college for sadism somewhere that graduates sick people who dream up these things?

4catsmom

(617 posts)
5. You're going to lower the abortion rate to zero
Fri Feb 21, 2025, 10:09 AM
Feb 21

because women are going to stay as far away as possible from men. If I were a young female, I'd get a ticket out of the US

Lonestarblue

(12,508 posts)
6. If passed by a red state, such a law would be selectively applied only to minority women.
Fri Feb 21, 2025, 11:59 AM
Feb 21

The right-wing goal is more white babies, and fear of prosecution would force white women to carry pregnancies to term, even if no white woman was ever prosecuted. And, of course, any woman whose pregnancy is life threatening would just be allowed to die.

Another crazy law Republicans keep introducing is one to end no-fault divorce. If women are forced to forego abortions and thus end their education and economic independence to stay home and raise baby after baby, they will not have the money to file for divorce or pay an investigator to document cause for divorce. Domestic abuse will be excused as not a justifiable cause for divorce. This law has already been introduced in some states, but so far it has been defeated. The religious right truly hates women and wants to lock them away to be under a man’s control.

maxsolomon

(36,201 posts)
9. Do they believe their rhetoric or not?
Fri Feb 21, 2025, 03:18 PM
Feb 21

I've been hearing "Abortion is Murder" since 1974 when I was 10.

I didn't even know how ladies got pregnant then, but we used to drive past the clinic on Auburn Ave. in Cincy and see the lunatics with their signs.

If it's murder, then stand up for your beliefs and make it the law.

If not? Then what is it? Maybe not your business?

Grins

(8,179 posts)
10. " would have allowed murder charges after a public hearing,"
Fri Feb 21, 2025, 05:19 PM
Feb 21

Since when have we allowed criminal charges to be filed after “a public hearing?”

And not a grand jury?

And just where do the villagers meet for this hearing?
The town Square?
Is there an elevated stage for the accused to stand on during this hearing?
Who does the accusing and judging?

What fucking idiots came up with this????

Volaris

(10,800 posts)
11. No, they had a public hearing for advancing the bill...
Fri Feb 21, 2025, 07:57 PM
Feb 21

It's a badly written sentence.

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