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Jose Garcia

(3,323 posts)
Fri May 31, 2024, 10:30 AM May 2024

West Virginia U.S. Senator Joe Manchin switches parties and registers as an Independent

Source: WTRF-TV

West Virginia Senator Joe Manchin has switched parties and registered as an Independent

Manchin released the following statement,”

“From my first day in public service in 1982, I have always focused on doing what’s best for my state and my country, without regard to party or politics. Throughout my days in elected office, I have always been proud of my commitment to common sense, bipartisanship and my desire to bring people together. It’s who I am. It’s who I will always be. I have never seen America through a partisan lens.”

“However, since becoming a United States Senator in 2010, I have seen both the Democrat and Republican parties leave West Virginia and our country behind for partisan extremism while jeopardizing our democracy. Today, our national politics are broken and neither party is willing to compromise to find common ground. To stay true to myself and remain committed to put country before party, I have decided to register as an independent with no party affiliation and continue to fight for America’s sensible majority,” said Manchin

Read more: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wtrf.com/west-virginia/west-virginia-u-s-senator-joe-manchin-switches-parties-and-registers-as-an-independent/amp/

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West Virginia U.S. Senator Joe Manchin switches parties and registers as an Independent (Original Post) Jose Garcia May 2024 OP
... 2naSalit May 2024 #1
Most corrupt politician in DC ZonkerHarris May 2024 #25
Goodbye, asshole. hadEnuf May 2024 #2
The asshole couldn't wait until November? BComplex May 2024 #3
Not surprising he'd pull a stunt tlike this onetexan May 2024 #11
Manchin and Sinema have both been thorns in our side. She looks like a sure loser though in AZ. brush May 2024 #27
Well, He's Not Running Again... GB_RN May 2024 #34
He's not? I didn't see that in his statement. brush May 2024 #36
Yup. Not Running. GB_RN May 2024 #38
i get the feeling he's gunning for future POTUS run onetexan May 2024 #43
I'm Not Sure About That One. GB_RN May 2024 #45
What's the use of changing to an Indy if he's not running again? brush May 2024 #44
He's probably running for something. LudwigPastorius Jun 2024 #59
Good, DINO Conservative. harun May 2024 #4
So is Chuck Shumer moreland01 May 2024 #5
Yes. Manchin is going to caucus with the Democrats and the other 4 independent Senators Jose Garcia May 2024 #6
just trying to remember who the other 4 Indys are rurallib May 2024 #8
Menendez Jose Garcia May 2024 #9
never knew he was an indy - well he won't be for long. Thanks rurallib May 2024 #10
He is running for reelection as an independent Jose Garcia May 2024 #13
Where have I seen that before? Raise $ and spend on legal fees? GreenWave May 2024 #40
He's already useless Bayard May 2024 #7
Nothing has changed. shotten99 May 2024 #12
"Doing what is best for my state." Please! Botany May 2024 #14
A millionaire representing a state with lower life expectancy... CBHagman May 2024 #19
Would folks prefer he switched to the repubs and caucused with them? onenote May 2024 #15
Manchin Katcat May 2024 #24
He's not leaving immediately. We need him to caucus with the Democrats onenote May 2024 #49
"...both the Democrat and Republican parties ... partisan extremism" area51 May 2024 #16
Also the use of "the Democrat [Party]" CBHagman May 2024 #20
We now have 5 Independent Senators Polybius May 2024 #17
And I call this BS, Manchin, "my state and my country, without regard to party or politics". republianmushroom May 2024 #18
True colors. hamsterjill May 2024 #21
No, "doing what's best" for Manchin. KPN May 2024 #22
Why bother Katcat May 2024 #23
Democrats are the "extremists"? Ilsa May 2024 #26
LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME!! OrlandoDem2 May 2024 #28
Get busy fucking yourself, Manchin. (nt) Paladin May 2024 #29
Oh, shut up, ButtManch NanaCat May 2024 #30
Nice, so we can shit on him on DU now, right?! AnrothElf May 2024 #31
Get the fuck out already. You're not with either party. You are for yourself. You evil greedy lying piece of shit. onecaliberal May 2024 #32
He was never a Dem... Quanto Magnus May 2024 #33
Fuck you. SamKnause May 2024 #35
What's The Goddamned Point? GB_RN May 2024 #37
Maybe it's to try and gain a little credibility when Bettie May 2024 #47
W. Virginia general election deadline for independent candidates to file is August 1st. LudwigPastorius Jun 2024 #60
Does mean Chuck Schumer can still be no_hypocrisy May 2024 #39
Yes. GreenWave May 2024 #41
Only because Manchin still intends to caucus with the Democtats onenote May 2024 #51
"From my first day in public service in 1982, I have always focused on doing what's best for my rich buddies." Traurigkeit May 2024 #42
Does this mean we no longer have to Bettie May 2024 #46
You must read a different version of DU onenote May 2024 #53
Will he still caucus with the Democrats? Has all the Manchin-Hate driven him away to give an advantage to the GOP? Oopsie Daisy May 2024 #48
You're expecting some folks here to consider this rationally onenote May 2024 #52
Yes ... Silly me! Oopsie Daisy May 2024 #55
Fuck you Joe, you self-aggrandizing prick. Bristlecone May 2024 #50
One day we will miss him. I promise. Oopsie Daisy May 2024 #56
He will fall to the dust bin of history. Bristlecone May 2024 #57
True. In time he will be forgotten. But in the short term when we're a seat or two short in the Senate * Oopsie Daisy Jun 2024 #58
The people of WV need help and this is the shit they get. A shame. twodogsbarking May 2024 #54
Master saboteur Manchin made oasis Jun 2024 #61

onetexan

(13,913 posts)
11. Not surprising he'd pull a stunt tlike this
Fri May 31, 2024, 11:05 AM
May 2024

He took a page from Sinema.
Good riddance.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
27. Manchin and Sinema have both been thorns in our side. She looks like a sure loser though in AZ.
Fri May 31, 2024, 12:52 PM
May 2024

Wish it were the same for Manchin in WV.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
36. He's not? I didn't see that in his statement.
Fri May 31, 2024, 02:01 PM
May 2024

Last edited Fri May 31, 2024, 02:42 PM - Edit history (1)

The rethug opponent to whoever our Dem candidate is will probably be as red as they come, thus Manchin creates yet more headaches for us.

What an everlasting a-hole.

GB_RN

(3,446 posts)
38. Yup. Not Running.
Fri May 31, 2024, 02:07 PM
May 2024

He announced his decision last November. Here’s a link to NPR’s article on it.

https://www.npr.org/2023/11/09/1211907129/joe-manchin-retire#:~:text=Alex%20Brandon%2FAP-,West%20Virginia%20Democratic%20Sen.,run%20for%20reelection%20in%202024.

Current WV governor Jim Justice (R-Coal), had announced he was going to run for the seat and Manchin’s popularity had faded over the last 6 years.

GB_RN

(3,446 posts)
45. I'm Not Sure About That One.
Fri May 31, 2024, 04:06 PM
May 2024

A snowball in an extremely warm location would have a better chance than he would have being elected president, especially as an independent: He’s burned too many bridges with Democrats and Republicans won’t vote for a pretend Repuke in sheep’s clothing.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
44. What's the use of changing to an Indy if he's not running again?
Fri May 31, 2024, 02:45 PM
May 2024

As always, Manchin is nothing but problems.

LudwigPastorius

(13,607 posts)
59. He's probably running for something.
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 09:44 PM
Jun 2024
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/03/politics/joe-manchin-independent-not-running/index.html

CNN

West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin said Monday he’s “not running for any office” after registering as an independent over the Memorial Day recess, but he didn’t completely rule out the possibility.

“I’m not running for any office, political office. I’ve been very clear about that,” the senator told CNN’s Manu Raju, insisting that his decision to become an independent had nothing to do with running for Senate or governor ahead of the August 1 filing deadline.

But pressed on whether he was closing the door on a future run, he added, “I have not – I never leave any, you never leave any political opportunity and walk away from that, so you always have options, because life is full of surprises. But I have no intention of running for political office.”

Manchin, whose announcement last year that he wasn’t seeking reelection was a political gift to Republicans hoping to flip the Senate, noted that he had informed President Joe Biden and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer of his decision to leave the party before he did so.

Jose Garcia

(3,323 posts)
13. He is running for reelection as an independent
Fri May 31, 2024, 11:09 AM
May 2024

He has no chance, but he can raise campaign money and use it to pay his attornies.

shotten99

(687 posts)
12. Nothing has changed.
Fri May 31, 2024, 11:05 AM
May 2024

The guy is useless, but given the choice between Manchin and “run of the mill” GQP, I’ll take this worthless sack of shit.

Botany

(75,563 posts)
14. "Doing what is best for my state." Please!
Fri May 31, 2024, 11:16 AM
May 2024

Please such as running a dirty coal fired power plant in Grant Town, W.V. that uses scrap
coal and is killing and or making sick to the people who live around it.

CBHagman

(17,359 posts)
19. A millionaire representing a state with lower life expectancy...
Fri May 31, 2024, 12:14 PM
May 2024

I remember looking up Manchin's personal wealth one time and being astonished that he was a millionaire.

Anyway, the timing is hideous, and it comes off as spitting in President Biden's face and, for that matter, in the face of the republic.

onenote

(45,726 posts)
15. Would folks prefer he switched to the repubs and caucused with them?
Fri May 31, 2024, 11:18 AM
May 2024

Meaning Schumer would have to share power with McConnell?

area51

(12,482 posts)
16. "...both the Democrat and Republican parties ... partisan extremism"
Fri May 31, 2024, 11:27 AM
May 2024

In what alternate universe are the dems partisan extremists?

CBHagman

(17,359 posts)
20. Also the use of "the Democrat [Party]"
Fri May 31, 2024, 12:15 PM
May 2024

That's meant to be an insult, like mispronouncing someone's name.

republianmushroom

(21,658 posts)
18. And I call this BS, Manchin, "my state and my country, without regard to party or politics".
Fri May 31, 2024, 12:13 PM
May 2024

You were a DINO !

hamsterjill

(16,654 posts)
21. True colors.
Fri May 31, 2024, 12:20 PM
May 2024

He’s a jerk.

My personal opinion is that no elected official should have the privilege of changing parties. When I vote, party affiliation is ALWAYS important to me and if someone wants to change parties, let them wait until the next election and run on their selected choice. That way, I can vote accordingly.

 

NanaCat

(2,332 posts)
30. Oh, shut up, ButtManch
Fri May 31, 2024, 01:38 PM
May 2024

Argumentum ad temperantiam (argument to false moderation) is a logical fallacy for a reason. Namely that you're too bloody stupid to comprehend that there is no middle ground between reality and delusional f*ckwittery.

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
32. Get the fuck out already. You're not with either party. You are for yourself. You evil greedy lying piece of shit.
Fri May 31, 2024, 01:43 PM
May 2024

GB_RN

(3,446 posts)
37. What's The Goddamned Point?
Fri May 31, 2024, 02:03 PM
May 2024

I’m not going to bash him, but seriously, what’s the point of this entire exercise? Manchin is retiring at the end of this term. Changing to “independent” doesn’t get him anywhere or anything. And as long as Sinema doesn’t pull the same stunt, he could go caucus with the GOPQ-balls and it wouldn’t really make much difference in the Senate (If Sinema followed Manchin to caucus with the Q-nuts, McConnell would be Majority Leader again. But let’s not contemplate that nightmare).

The only thing I can come up with here is that Manchin hasn’t been able to get his name in the news much recently. And so it follows, knowing he’s an attention hound, that this might be nothing more than a “Hey! Look at me” bit.

Taking a darker look at that, it momentarily gets the spotlight off Cantaloupe Caligula and his conviction. I really don’t want to think Manchin would stoop that far with his motive.

Again, this is NOT a Manchin-bashing post. Just speculation about motivations and my confusion/frustrations over the same.

Bettie

(18,966 posts)
47. Maybe it's to try and gain a little credibility when
Fri May 31, 2024, 04:51 PM
May 2024

he decides to become a Republican to run for governor of West Virginia? A bridge affiliation for the moment?

And, he's not a Democrat, so I think we can bash him now....

LudwigPastorius

(13,607 posts)
60. W. Virginia general election deadline for independent candidates to file is August 1st.
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 10:05 PM
Jun 2024

...while the deadline to file for party-affiliated candidates has already expired.

By declaring independent, Manchin can still run for something (Senate, Governor,...) if he chooses to do so.

https://sos.wv.gov/elections/Documents/West%20Virginia%20Election%20Calendar.pdf

No later than August 1 preceding the General Election, certificates nominating candidates are to be filed with the Secretary of State or County Clerk, depending upon the office being sought.
If nomination certificate is not timely filed and filing fee not timely paid, they may not be accepted by the filing office.
- W. Va. Code §§ 3-5-23, 3-5-24

onenote

(45,726 posts)
51. Only because Manchin still intends to caucus with the Democtats
Fri May 31, 2024, 06:49 PM
May 2024

Although it seems like a number of DUers wouldn’t mind if he didn’t notwithstanding that would mean a sharing arrangement by Schumer and McConnell

 

Traurigkeit

(1,290 posts)
42. "From my first day in public service in 1982, I have always focused on doing what's best for my rich buddies."
Fri May 31, 2024, 02:38 PM
May 2024

Fixed it

onenote

(45,726 posts)
53. You must read a different version of DU
Fri May 31, 2024, 06:52 PM
May 2024

if you think only kind things have been said about him.

Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
48. Will he still caucus with the Democrats? Has all the Manchin-Hate driven him away to give an advantage to the GOP?
Fri May 31, 2024, 05:18 PM
May 2024

For all of his faults, at least he was a Democrat that gave us the majority we needed in the Senate. If we lose the Senate by one vote... his haters will wish that he was still a Democrat who caucused with us and allowed Schumer to be the majority leader.

Haters should be careful what they wish for... it might come true.

Bristlecone

(10,916 posts)
57. He will fall to the dust bin of history.
Fri May 31, 2024, 11:22 PM
May 2024

Like Joe Lieberman. I didn’t miss him one bit.

And I can see the big picture just fine. All the handwringing and being held over a barrel all the time will also not be missed.

I will not miss Kristen Sinema one bit either.

Maybe we can put a democrat back in a Florida seat; and one of these days a Texas seat will also be back in play - shear demographics will take over. There are opportunities elsewhere.





Oopsie Daisy

(6,670 posts)
58. True. In time he will be forgotten. But in the short term when we're a seat or two short in the Senate *
Sat Jun 1, 2024, 06:31 AM
Jun 2024

* even the WORST behaving and WORST voting Democrat still helps us to retain the majority status and all the privileges AND CONTROL that comes with it. --- Being "held over a barrel" is infinitely more desirable than having NO CONTROL at all. But, haters gonna hate, and I agree he's done a lot to create the resentment that follows him around. It's just that strong emotions often cause people to fail to consider the long-term consequences of what they wish for, even if it brings short-term satisfaction.

oasis

(53,040 posts)
61. Master saboteur Manchin made
Mon Jun 3, 2024, 11:31 PM
Jun 2024

a mess of things for Democrats. He'll be remembered for his disloyalty.
Good riddance.

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