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Jose Garcia

(3,339 posts)
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 07:26 PM Nov 2023

Manhattan public defender Victoria Ruiz resigns after caught tearing down posters of kidnapped Israelis

Source: 1010 WINS Radio

NEW YORK (1010 WINS) -- The Manhattan public defender who was captured on camera tearing down posters of hostages kidnapped during Hamas' Oct. 7 terror attack in southern Israel, has resigned, a representative for the New York County Defender Services told 1010 WINS exclusively Tuesday.

Ruiz's colleagues were informed Tuesday in a memo by NYCDS executive director Stan Germán, sources said, adding that the incident had polarized the staff. The decision to leave was her own, sources said.

1010 WINS has reached out to Ruiz for comment on her resignation.

In the video, posted by the non-partisan StopAntisemitism X account, Ruiz is spotted smirking tearing down posters, while someone asks, "Why are you taking down pictures of missing children? Why are you taking down pictures of babies?" Ruiz never answers and instead walks away and smirks.

Read more: https://www.audacy.com/1010wins/news/local/ny-lawyer-victoria-ruiz-resigns-after-israel-poster-incident

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Manhattan public defender Victoria Ruiz resigns after caught tearing down posters of kidnapped Israelis (Original Post) Jose Garcia Nov 2023 OP
What a lunatic. Wingus Dingus Nov 2023 #1
A public defender! no_hypocrisy Nov 2023 #2
I think they need to do a scrub on her cases jimfields33 Nov 2023 #3
. 3Hotdogs Nov 2023 #7
They keep the victims in the public eye. They spread awareness. oldsoftie Nov 2023 #13
And after seeing street furniture defaced with these eyesores, the citizens of Maplewood, N.J., where I live.... 3Hotdogs Nov 2023 #38
Actually, some HAVE gone to Israel to help them cripple Hamas. So yes. oldsoftie Nov 2023 #39
.. lapucelle Nov 2023 #27
What kind of hate must these people have hidden all this while yagotme Nov 2023 #4
Honestly, this kind of behavior is why some people vote Republican. yardwork Nov 2023 #5
"I'm sure she meant well." I don't think she meant well EX500rider Nov 2023 #8
Reading her (poor) apology, I think I understand her reasoning. yardwork Nov 2023 #9
If that's her reasoning, I don't understand it. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #17
It would be helpful to try to understand the pro-Palestinian protesters reasoning. yardwork Nov 2023 #22
I am not questioning your post, I am questioning her reasoning. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #24
So, like me, you think she "means well?" yardwork Nov 2023 #26
As a protector of her family, yes. As a US Congresswoman, no. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #31
We're talking about two different people. yardwork Nov 2023 #32
My mistake. We are. At some point I sent my reply to the wrong thread. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #37
Does not explain... Whatthe_Firetruck Nov 2023 #20
If that's her thinking, it is immature and broad-brushing RandomNumbers Nov 2023 #28
Immature, broadbrushing, overreacting, etc. - agreed. yardwork Nov 2023 #29
sorry, how did she "mean well" Skittles Nov 2023 #10
See my response above. yardwork Nov 2023 #11
? Skittles Nov 2023 #12
See my response below, then. yardwork Nov 2023 #16
HOW did she "mean well"?? Please, this should be good oldsoftie Nov 2023 #14
I'm surprised that this is a mystery. yardwork Nov 2023 #15
I often find widely held opinions repulsive. Beastly Boy Nov 2023 #18
I agree that it's repulsive. yardwork Nov 2023 #21
uh huh Skittles Nov 2023 #19
Ok, please say more. You don't believe her explanation? yardwork Nov 2023 #23
"I apologize to anyone who was hurt or confused by my actions." lapucelle Nov 2023 #6
She needs to find another line of work FakeNoose Nov 2023 #25
Interestingly, Public Defenders in some cities are in private firms that get subsidized, maxsolomon Nov 2023 #30
Yes there are plenty of antisemites EllieBC Nov 2023 #33
There are plenty of Palestinian sympathizers in the US maxsolomon Nov 2023 #34
What exactly would make one think EllieBC Nov 2023 #35
IDK. I just know there's a lot of people with half-formed ideas about I/P maxsolomon Nov 2023 #36
Good JustAnotherGen Nov 2023 #40
This is why the far left (anarchist/Marxists) have not accomplished much of anything these last 50 years. PatrickforB Nov 2023 #41
I don't understand doing that iemanja Nov 2023 #42
 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
3. I think they need to do a scrub on her cases
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 07:42 PM
Nov 2023

Specially did she give her full attention to Jewish clients?

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
13. They keep the victims in the public eye. They spread awareness.
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 09:22 PM
Nov 2023

And not liking it doesnt give you the right to rip them down. She's a real POS

3Hotdogs

(14,725 posts)
38. And after seeing street furniture defaced with these eyesores, the citizens of Maplewood, N.J., where I live....
Thu Nov 9, 2023, 08:31 AM
Nov 2023

they are going to see the poster that's on the corner of Maplewood Avenue and Baker St and be inspired to go to Israel and join with Israeli M.I.G.A. (Make Israel Great Again) commandos and rescue the guy who's photo is on the poster?


yagotme

(4,126 posts)
4. What kind of hate must these people have hidden all this while
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 07:42 PM
Nov 2023

to do something so childish and foolish as to tear down these posters. THESE people must truly back Hamas.

yardwork

(68,371 posts)
5. Honestly, this kind of behavior is why some people vote Republican.
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 07:44 PM
Nov 2023

I'm sure she meant well. Her actions, however, were stupid. If we want to do good in the world we have to be a lot more strategic than this. This just plays into the right wing's hands.

Same with violent protests that kill people.

yardwork

(68,371 posts)
9. Reading her (poor) apology, I think I understand her reasoning.
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 08:29 PM
Nov 2023

I don't agree with it, but it appears that she believes that the posters with photos of Israeli children are being used to justify killing Palestinian children. I haven't seen the posters so I don't know, but I imagine that this is what she believes.

I doubt she's a cold blooded monster. I think she's just misguided and her behavior was foolish.

yardwork

(68,371 posts)
22. It would be helpful to try to understand the pro-Palestinian protesters reasoning.
Wed Nov 8, 2023, 09:42 AM
Nov 2023

IMO. It's easy to call the other side names and assume that they're sociopaths - we're seeing a lot of that - and that just escalates dehumanization and perpetuates violence.

I think I've been clear in my disapproval and negative opinion of these actions. I don't agree that everybody doing these things is evil and sociopathic.

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
24. I am not questioning your post, I am questioning her reasoning.
Wed Nov 8, 2023, 10:32 AM
Nov 2023

How can concern for hostages possibly be construed as justification for killing children?

I am more inclined to ascribe her motivation to personal reasons: she has family in the West Bank, and she is doing everything her position allows her to do to protect her family.

This is something I can understand and relate to. Whether it affects her standing as a US lawmaker is a whole different issue, but if I were her, concerns for my family would come first, and I would be willing to pay the price for it.

yardwork

(68,371 posts)
26. So, like me, you think she "means well?"
Wed Nov 8, 2023, 10:59 AM
Nov 2023

Is she a U.S. lawmaker? I thought she was in the public defender's office. I hadn't read that she has family in the West Bank. Her last name is Hispanic.

Are we talking about two different people?

 

Beastly Boy

(13,283 posts)
37. My mistake. We are. At some point I sent my reply to the wrong thread.
Wed Nov 8, 2023, 04:28 PM
Nov 2023

My last two posts were meant for Rashida Tlaib.

Getting back to Victoria Ruiz, I know nothing of her family or her record, and thus I can only judge her by the acts being described in the OP. In her case, no, I cannot imagine any possibility of good intentions behind her conduct.

RandomNumbers

(18,939 posts)
28. If that's her thinking, it is immature and broad-brushing
Wed Nov 8, 2023, 11:51 AM
Nov 2023

I mean, really?? We are so awful that when we care about Israeli children (and other innocents), a significant number of us then justify killing other children?? (I know some DO, and it is sick. But thinking all do, is also sick.)

Someone who would think that must really hate humanity.

yardwork

(68,371 posts)
29. Immature, broadbrushing, overreacting, etc. - agreed.
Wed Nov 8, 2023, 12:11 PM
Nov 2023

But I can't agree that, all by itself, it means she hates humanity. Like many zealots, she is convinced that she is right and "the opposition" is wrong. To her mind, any actions are justified to obtain what she perceives to be a heroic goal.

The reason I'm making s big deal out of this is because this thinking is common, at least in the U.S. right now. I'm reasonably sure she considers herself to be very progressive. But her thinking and actions are similar to those who attacked the Capitol on Jan 6. It's the thinking of people who vote for Trump.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
14. HOW did she "mean well"?? Please, this should be good
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 09:24 PM
Nov 2023

What, cleaning poles of litter?

yardwork

(68,371 posts)
15. I'm surprised that this is a mystery.
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 09:45 PM
Nov 2023

In the article at the link is a half-assed apology she gave, in which she justified tearing down the posters because she believed the posters were justifying the murder of Palestinian children.

This is the reason being given at every pro-Palestinian rally and even here on DU: that Israel is using the attacks by Hamas to justify killing Palestinian civilians. I don't agree with it, but it's a very widely held opinion.

yardwork

(68,371 posts)
23. Ok, please say more. You don't believe her explanation?
Wed Nov 8, 2023, 09:44 AM
Nov 2023

Why do you think she tore down posters of children who are being held hostage?

lapucelle

(20,762 posts)
6. "I apologize to anyone who was hurt or confused by my actions."
Tue Nov 7, 2023, 07:48 PM
Nov 2023

No one was confused, dear. The word you're looking for is "disgusted".

FakeNoose

(39,103 posts)
25. She needs to find another line of work
Wed Nov 8, 2023, 10:48 AM
Nov 2023

... and I hope that her resignation was dictated by her boss.

maxsolomon

(37,627 posts)
30. Interestingly, Public Defenders in some cities are in private firms that get subsidized,
Wed Nov 8, 2023, 12:49 PM
Nov 2023

not county employees. Maybe Ruiz would have been safer in that situation.

Tearing down the kidnapped Israeli posters has been a pretty common occurrence all over - the US, Europe. I think they're seen as Israeli propaganda by Palestinian activists and sympathizers.

If you're a govt employee, though, word to the wise: stay out of it.

EllieBC

(3,585 posts)
33. Yes there are plenty of antisemites
Wed Nov 8, 2023, 02:55 PM
Nov 2023

in the US tearing down the posters. I am for all of them being exposed and then they can reap the consequences of their “protest.”

maxsolomon

(37,627 posts)
34. There are plenty of Palestinian sympathizers in the US
Wed Nov 8, 2023, 02:59 PM
Nov 2023

who don't consider themselves Antisemites. Maybe even the poster vandalizers.

EllieBC

(3,585 posts)
35. What exactly would make one think
Wed Nov 8, 2023, 03:03 PM
Nov 2023

tearing down posters of kidnapped Israelis is not antisemitic?

I mean except for being Jew haters who masks have slid off.

maxsolomon

(37,627 posts)
36. IDK. I just know there's a lot of people with half-formed ideas about I/P
Wed Nov 8, 2023, 03:21 PM
Nov 2023

who are very upset right now. I live with one, and I wouldn't say she's an antisemite. she doesn't think she is. yet any word I say in defense of Israeli actions in the wake of 10/7 (most of which I consider unavoidable) is taken as a betrayal of the righteous anti-colonial cause of the downtrodden.

I don't know the motives of the poster vandals, but I know they are pretty dedicated to taking them down as fast as they go up. I'd assume most are Muslims, but obviously not all.

i'd actually like to hear their rationalizations, because it's really easy to label it as antisemitism.

PatrickforB

(15,278 posts)
41. This is why the far left (anarchist/Marxists) have not accomplished much of anything these last 50 years.
Thu Nov 9, 2023, 11:19 PM
Nov 2023

They have carefully cultivated a tacit rule never to question tactics of radical anarchist groups, like Hamas.

This is why these misguided kids at some of our colleges are celebrating Hamas and threatening Jewish students.

They never question tactics when they should. Hamas are a bunch of dirtbags, and the far left is stupid for celebrating them. And I'm pretty far to the left as all of you know, but I DO question tactics, especially terrorist ones.

iemanja

(56,985 posts)
42. I don't understand doing that
Thu Nov 9, 2023, 11:53 PM
Nov 2023

I'm sympathetic to Palestinian civilians, but I don't understand belittling or trying to erase the hostages. Injustice is injustice, regardless of the side.

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