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groundloop

(13,336 posts)
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 10:18 AM Sep 2023

IRS plans to crack down on 1,600 millionaires to collect millions in back taxes

Source: ABC News

The IRS announced on Friday it is launching an effort to aggressively pursue 1,600 millionaires and 75 large business partnerships that owe hundreds of millions of dollars in past due taxes.

IRS Commissioner Daniel Werfel said that with a boost in federal funding and the help of artificial intelligence tools, the agency has new means of targeting wealthy people who have “cut corners" on their taxes.

“If you pay your taxes on time it should be particularly frustrating when you see that wealthy filers are not,” Werfel told reporters in a call previewing the announcement. He said 1,600 millionaires who owe at least $250,000 each in back taxes and 75 large business partnerships that have assets of roughly $10 billion on average are targeted for the new “compliance efforts."

Werfel said a massive hiring effort and AI research tools developed by IRS employees and contractors are playing a big role in identifying wealthy tax dodgers. The agency is making an effort to showcase positive results from its burst of new funding under President Joe Biden's Democratic administration as Republicans in Congress look to claw back some of that money.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/irs-plans-crack-1600-millionaires-collect-millions-dollars-103025408

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IRS plans to crack down on 1,600 millionaires to collect millions in back taxes (Original Post) groundloop Sep 2023 OP
It's no surprise GQPers are insisting the IRS budget be cut. groundloop Sep 2023 #1
A long overdue and much welcomed announcement. Thanks for posting. Raven123 Sep 2023 #2
Lets see how that works out for the IRS. Chainfire Sep 2023 #3
No problem dodging that bullet. twodogsbarking Sep 2023 #4
Couldn't happen to better people. Baitball Blogger Sep 2023 #5
Da fuck you mean? 3Hotdogs Sep 2023 #34
This needs a lot of publicity. The wealthy will no doubt largely beat this effort back KPN Sep 2023 #6
Kudos for the targeted approach. live love laugh Sep 2023 #7
It's about time. Best news I've heard in a while! Fla Dem Sep 2023 #8
We'll see if there is a big massive influx of cash from those 4lbs Sep 2023 #9
and instate a 4% milinares tax like mass did , but make ours nationwide. AllaN01Bear Sep 2023 #10
K & R...nt Wounded Bear Sep 2023 #11
We need a a clever, vivid and pejorative name praxEs Sep 2023 #12
Thieves AllyCat Sep 2023 #18
We have several already, take your pick. Snackshack Sep 2023 #21
The morbidly rich NBachers Sep 2023 #26
Plus interest, fines/penalties !!! Delmette2.0 Sep 2023 #13
THIS!!☝️ onetexan Sep 2023 #27
Don't forget about the phucking billionaires... Snackshack Sep 2023 #14
That's where the REAL back taxes are hiding! The billionaires! BComplex Sep 2023 #38
I know Snackshack Sep 2023 #40
Don't plan, do it. Sneederbunk Sep 2023 #15
No wonder republicans are trying so hard to stop the IRS. AllyCat Sep 2023 #16
I completely support this effort! liberalla Sep 2023 #17
Some people insist taxing the wealthy can't solve any of our problems, but when you that many Martin68 Sep 2023 #19
Well, looks like the woke IRS is now going after the rich! Chakaconcarne Sep 2023 #20
Well, it's about time Farmer-Rick Sep 2023 #23
But, but, but... 3825-87867 Sep 2023 #22
I predict a lot of amended returns being filed in a hurry Bayard Sep 2023 #24
If the IRS wants to hit the jackpot, tell them to look into Paul Singer's Caymans laundromat NML peppertree Sep 2023 #25
well then Im in the clear. ZonkerHarris Sep 2023 #28
If the tax receipts are significant swong19104 Sep 2023 #29
What does this mean. Are there at least 1600 accountants and attorneys going to jail while.... usaf-vet Sep 2023 #30
They'd better, dammit Novara Sep 2023 #31
Good News. Now, go after the billionaires twice as hard. Magoo48 Sep 2023 #32
Do it, Willis, just do it. republianmushroom Sep 2023 #33
Oh crap, I plan to be a millionaire some day! BWdem4life Sep 2023 #35
So long as they don't mess with th billionaires - Moscow Mitch Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2023 #36
How about you start with the one that's being audited for years and years bluestarone Sep 2023 #37
As opposed to the poor working stiffs who are gonna get a break miyazaki Sep 2023 #39
 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
3. Lets see how that works out for the IRS.
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 10:36 AM
Sep 2023

Heads will roll if they start demanding fair treatment for the rich.

KPN

(16,937 posts)
6. This needs a lot of publicity. The wealthy will no doubt largely beat this effort back
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 10:51 AM
Sep 2023

with the aid of the Republican crime syndicate, but it's happening under Biden because of growing public awareness and support for equal economic justice. They may be able to throw up barriers to it this time, but public sentiment will not go away. Hopefully, that gets translated into votes down the road. Maybe then, the tide will actually turn.

4lbs

(7,395 posts)
9. We'll see if there is a big massive influx of cash from those
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 11:20 AM
Sep 2023

1600 millionaires and 75 businesses to the GQP to try to stave off this effort.


Anybody feel like reporting on exploding heads at Focks Nooze, See Ennn Beee See, and Nooze Maxxx?

praxEs

(84 posts)
12. We need a a clever, vivid and pejorative name
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 11:38 AM
Sep 2023

for these tax cheats that captures how un-American it is to hide taxable income. It's tantamount to cheating everyone who pays their taxes in that honorable payers may be taxed more because these scoundrels shirk their responsibilities to the rest of us.

Tax cheater, tax dodger and tax delinquent just don't cut it. These terms appear to me to be names that are coined by the tax law criminals.

Suggestions?

Snackshack

(2,569 posts)
21. We have several already, take your pick.
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 11:58 AM
Sep 2023

Criminals...

or

Republicans...

or

Traitors

or

Un- American

Pretty much all the words the gop has used on anyone trying to inject reason or reality into the psychotic world of the shit stain circus they live in.

BComplex

(9,597 posts)
38. That's where the REAL back taxes are hiding! The billionaires!
Sat Sep 9, 2023, 12:11 AM
Sep 2023

The problem with them is that it would take a room full of masters level attorney CPA's to follow all the money in their tax returns.

Snackshack

(2,569 posts)
40. I know
Sat Sep 9, 2023, 12:34 PM
Sep 2023

That why there is a very good argument that no body ever wants to hear and that is we have reached a place where one person can become too powerful just because they were in the right place at the right time to capitalize on an investment that now days has returns that are orders of magnitude in size of the traditional returns in capitalism we used to see that were limited in location.

These new global corps simply generate too much wealth to let one homosapien have because if history shows anything it shows how horrid homosapiens can be when they get that much power time and time again.

Also and this is just the simple fact of the physical world we live in. It’s finite. This idea of unlimited grow as a model is insane it cannot be sustained. The cost of living is same for all of us. If the price for a loaf of bread was based off ones income it might be fair to where the 1% were paying $10,000 for a loaf but that is not the case. The minimum needs for survival are the same for all of us. No needs 10 Houses, 20 cars a jet and a yacht. I did not feel a lot of sympathy for the basketball player who complained about having to feed his family when his contract went from number of million of dollar to another number also in millions of dollars.

This will eventually self correct if we do nothing and just let the world keep spinning. Unfortunately the last time things were so unbalanced it took a revolution to correct and many heads were lopped off.

AllyCat

(18,251 posts)
16. No wonder republicans are trying so hard to stop the IRS.
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 11:53 AM
Sep 2023

There goes their campaign finance spigots.

Martin68

(26,534 posts)
19. Some people insist taxing the wealthy can't solve any of our problems, but when you that many
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 11:56 AM
Sep 2023

millionaires cheating on their taxes, that's a significant amount of money. Particularly when you consider it is probably spread out over decades. They owe us this money.

Farmer-Rick

(12,089 posts)
23. Well, it's about time
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 12:36 PM
Sep 2023

They have gone after the poor and middle class for pennies. It's about time they went after the big bucks.

My grandfather never earned more than $30,000 a year. He only completed the 8th grade. Yet the IRS audited him every year for about 6 years. All the while ignoring the millions people like Trump's Nazi father weren't paying.

I got audited while in the Navy. They couldn't have found someone who wasn't serving their country to audit? Maybe like Trump.

Luckily I had an accountant who beat them back. They ended up owing me money.

The IRS knows what you make. They know how much money you got. They know all the ever changing, confusing rules that the filthy-rich get the GQP to pass.

So, why don't they just give us a bill on tax day instead of playing a game of gotcha when you inevitably make a mistake?

Other countries like England send bills. You fill out a form and the government figures out what you owe. I'm sure there's some kind of appeals process if the government gets it wrong. But at least no cat and mouse games.

The IRS is a mess.

3825-87867

(1,624 posts)
22. But, but, but...
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 12:16 PM
Sep 2023

Hunter Biden's unpaid (but paid late with interest) back taxes!!!

Surely the Republicans will look into those 1600, right?

Bayard

(27,301 posts)
24. I predict a lot of amended returns being filed in a hurry
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 12:53 PM
Sep 2023

I want to see them going after corporations who use every trick in the book to keep the money for their shareholders. That's going to be the problem--a lot of them skate right on the edge.

peppertree

(22,880 posts)
25. If the IRS wants to hit the jackpot, tell them to look into Paul Singer's Caymans laundromat NML
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 12:59 PM
Sep 2023

It's said to be a veritable who's-who of plutocrats - especially Republican ones.

swong19104

(532 posts)
29. If the tax receipts are significant
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 01:10 PM
Sep 2023

highlight that by saying, "The federal government, which means you, the people of the United States, took in an additional $30B (or whatever) in federal taxes just by demanding the money from the super wealthy who have neglected to honestly pay their fair share of taxes. No additional amount of taxes were levied or taken from anyone with a net asset value under $5 million (or whatever)."

I'm not sure whether the common clay would understand the meaning of "levy" and "net asset value", so those words may need to be massaged.

usaf-vet

(7,712 posts)
30. What does this mean. Are there at least 1600 accountants and attorneys going to jail while....
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 01:35 PM
Sep 2023

.... the millionaires jump on their jets and yachts and leave the country to live the good life.

Novara

(6,115 posts)
31. They'd better, dammit
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 01:38 PM
Sep 2023

When I owed back taxes they fucking hounded me for five years while I paid them back on an installment plan. If they treated these assholes like they treat the little people who don't even owe much, imagine how much money they'd collect in back taxes.

bluestarone

(20,444 posts)
37. How about you start with the one that's being audited for years and years
Fri Sep 8, 2023, 07:31 PM
Sep 2023

FIRST on the list please. TFG'S

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