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BumRushDaShow

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Thu Aug 24, 2023, 05:12 PM Aug 2023

Maui County sues utility, alleging negligence over fires that ravaged Lahaina

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Source: AP

HONOLULU (AP) — Maui County sued Hawaiian Electric Company on Thursday over the fires that devastated Lahaina, saying the utility negligently failed to shut off power despite exceptionally high winds and dry conditions.

Witness accounts and video indicated that sparks from power lines ignited fires as utility poles snapped in the winds, which were driven by a passing hurricane. The Aug. 8 fires killed at least 115 people and left an unknown number of others missing, making them the deadliest in the U.S. in more than a century.

Hawaii Electric said in a statement it is “very disappointed that Maui County chose this litigious path while the investigation is still unfolding.”

The lawsuit said the destruction could have been avoided and that the utility had a duty “to properly maintain and repair the electric transmission lines, and other equipment including utility poles associated with their transmission of electricity, and to keep vegetation properly trimmed and maintained so as to prevent contact with overhead power lines and other electric equipment.”

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/maui-hawaii-wildfires-electric-utility-c3513c2f8e451df6dab2e59a6c2f670d



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HONOLULU (AP) -- Maui County sued Hawaiian Electric Company on Thursday over the fires that devastated Lahaina, saying the utility negligently failed to shut off power despite exceptionally high winds and dry conditions.

Witness accounts and video indicated that sparks from power lines ignited fires as utility poles snapped in the winds, which were driven by a passing hurricane. The Aug. 8 fires killed at least 115 people and left an unknown number of others missing, making them the deadliest in the U.S. in more than a century.

A spokesperson for Hawaiian Electric didn't immediately respond to an email seeking comment. "This destruction could have been avoided," the lawsuit said.

The lawsuit said the utility had a duty "to properly maintain and repair the electric transmission lines, and other equipment including utility poles associated with their transmission of electricity, and to keep vegetation properly trimmed and maintained so as to prevent contact with overhead power lines and other electric equipment."



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HONOLULU (AP) -- Maui County sued Hawaiian Electric Company on Thursday over the fires that devastated Lahaina, saying the utility negligently failed to shut off power despite exceptionally high winds and dry conditions. Witness accounts and video indicated that sparks from power lines ignited fires as utility poles snapped in the winds, which were driven by a passing hurricane. The Aug. 8 fire killed at least 115 people and left an unknown number of others missing.

A spokesperson for Hawaiian Electric didn't immediately respond to an email seeking comment. Had the utility heeded weather service "warnings and de-energized their powerlines during the predicted high-wind gusts, this destruction could have been avoided," the lawsuit said.

The lawsuit said the utility had a duty "to properly maintain and repair the electric transmission lines, and other equipment including utility poles associated with their transmission of electricity, and to keep vegetation properly trimmed and maintained so as to prevent contact with overhead power lines and other electric equipment."

The utility knew that high winds "would topple power poles, knock down power lines, and ignite vegetation," the lawsuit said. "Defendants also knew that if their overhead electrical equipment ignited a fire, it would spread at a critically rapid rate."
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Maui County sues utility, alleging negligence over fires that ravaged Lahaina (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Aug 2023 OP
Good Wild blueberry Aug 2023 #1
I've seen 2 times down power lines sparking LiberaBlueDem Aug 2023 #2
since in california there was that one fire that wiped out a whole town because of AllaN01Bear Aug 2023 #3
Good. Sue them long and hard. Evolve Dammit Aug 2023 #4
Hawaiian electric is facing a bleak future- the other day the stocks for down 67% mahina Aug 2023 #5
No, that sounds very complicated and like a monopoly. So sorry. We have a monopoly too, owned by a Evolve Dammit Aug 2023 #9
From Thom Hartmann: Rhiannon12866 Aug 2023 #6
Heco board, Where Dan Inouye's cronies went to bask in glory. mahina Aug 2023 #7
Thanks! Rhiannon12866 Aug 2023 #8

LiberaBlueDem

(1,166 posts)
2. I've seen 2 times down power lines sparking
Thu Aug 24, 2023, 05:18 PM
Aug 2023

After rain and snow so no fire. But one caused quite a fire.

Power companies have to be careful and turn power off when winds and conditions are not favorable.

AllaN01Bear

(27,604 posts)
3. since in california there was that one fire that wiped out a whole town because of
Thu Aug 24, 2023, 05:27 PM
Aug 2023

power lines , under certain weather condititons , high wind , dry grass . branches on line. the power goes out for a afected area called a psps . with better circut protections , not as much. they are called public saftey power outages .

mahina

(20,090 posts)
5. Hawaiian electric is facing a bleak future- the other day the stocks for down 67%
Thu Aug 24, 2023, 06:51 PM
Aug 2023

We don’t have anybody else. I am not a fan of Heco and some of the really rapacious ways, including side note, paying staffers to take “leave” and go work gratis as legislative aid in every legislative office. For years! (No longer but not that long ago. )

But they are all we have at this point. We turned down another company that wanted to come in and certainly be predatory and buy them. There is a publicly owned utility on Kaua’i, but the mechanics of this transition are unclear at best, and since Heco has been a major political donor for ages and ages and ages, it is also unclear how we pry legislators off of them.

Not so simple.

Evolve Dammit

(21,274 posts)
9. No, that sounds very complicated and like a monopoly. So sorry. We have a monopoly too, owned by a
Fri Aug 25, 2023, 10:39 AM
Aug 2023

foreign corporation. Rates have doubled in last couple years and for the moment we are stuck too. Public option on the ballot in November.
In the meantime, my heart goes out to everyone affected by this horrific tragedy.

Rhiannon12866

(244,723 posts)
6. From Thom Hartmann:
Thu Aug 24, 2023, 08:31 PM
Aug 2023
This For Profit Corporation Started Maui Fires & Will Burn Your Neighborhood Down For Profit Next - Thom Hartmann



The devastating Maui fire could have been prevented but private, profit driven utility companies were more concerned with making a buck than saving lives. Is it time for publicly owned & operated utilities? Thom Hartmann reveals the big money behind the Maui fires. - Aired on 08/22/2023.

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