Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 11:50 AM Jul 2023

Mar-a-Lago property manager makes first court appearance in classified documents case

Source: CNN

Carlos De Oliveira, the Mar-a-Lago property manager and newest co-defendant in the special counsel’s criminal case charging former President Donald Trump and his staff with mishandling classified information, made his initial appearance in a Miami courtroom on Monday.

De Oliveira was indicted by a grand jury Thursday on four charges, including conspiracy to obstruct justice and making false statements to the FBI.

On Monday, he was informed of his rights as a criminal defendant but did not enter a formal plea during the roughly 10-minute hearing.

He will be arraigned on August 10 in Ft. Pierce, Florida. He was released on a $100,000 bond pending trial.



Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/31/politics/carlos-de-oliveira-court-appearance-classified-documents-case/index.html
17 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Mar-a-Lago property manager makes first court appearance in classified documents case (Original Post) brooklynite Jul 2023 OP
Does he realize that Trump will pay for his lawyer but won't do his time? dem4decades Jul 2023 #1
Realizes conflict of interest for a lawyer to be paid by codefendant...another string of motions and Alexander Of Assyria Jul 2023 #3
At what point does it become illegal? dem4decades Jul 2023 #4
It's not per illegal, it's the potential for conflict of interests. Unheard of if one has potential Alexander Of Assyria Jul 2023 #16
Trump's MAGA cult will be paying his legal fees through the legal defense fund. Lonestarblue Jul 2023 #6
The Only tTrump posts I love?...involve the approaching footsteps of a prison warden. Alexander Of Assyria Jul 2023 #2
CNN llashram Jul 2023 #5
They had to be pretty selective on the docs they chose to charge him on... SeattleVet Jul 2023 #10
we will see llashram Jul 2023 #15
He did not enter a plea. What does that mean? Raven Jul 2023 #7
It Means It Delays Arraignment But Does Not Delay The Case MayReasonRule Jul 2023 #8
May I add a Step 4...start a GoFundMe account for independent legal counsel. I bet he'd Raven Jul 2023 #9
No Doubt That He Would... What An Interesting Contributor Mix That Would Bring Forth! MayReasonRule Jul 2023 #13
Oliveira is a Magat gab13by13 Jul 2023 #11
Hammer this A-O. republianmushroom Jul 2023 #12
And "He was a very nice guy and never would do this" BigmanPigman Jul 2023 #14
Donald Trump is bad for your wealth Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2023 #17
 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
3. Realizes conflict of interest for a lawyer to be paid by codefendant...another string of motions and
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 12:11 PM
Jul 2023

appeals…its standard operating legal procedure apparently reserved for those with unlimited lawyer budget and lawyers with no limit to unethical behavior.

Who are all these lawyers filing this shit?? It’s like brain surgeons operating with rusty pliars…everyone can see what they doing is wrong but no one can stop them from operating!?

Hey judge, I m representing Mr. X, indicted for helping Mr. T commit a crime…Full disclosure, m being paid by codefendant T. That ok?

Is there a Kraken Law School somewhere?

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
16. It's not per illegal, it's the potential for conflict of interests. Unheard of if one has potential
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 05:36 PM
Jul 2023

to incriminate the other.

Lonestarblue

(12,978 posts)
6. Trump's MAGA cult will be paying his legal fees through the legal defense fund.
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 12:29 PM
Jul 2023

Trump tries never to pay for anything if he can get gullible followers to pay instead.

 

Alexander Of Assyria

(7,839 posts)
2. The Only tTrump posts I love?...involve the approaching footsteps of a prison warden.
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 12:04 PM
Jul 2023

Everything else is part of the problem.

llashram

(6,269 posts)
5. CNN
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 12:28 PM
Jul 2023

said in this report claims prosecutors charge trump with "mishandling several classified documents" when trump has many, many classified documents. Kind of a misleading statement to me. But what the hell do I know? With all these hundreds and hundreds of thousands of words surrounding the 'alleged' crimes of slimeball, all I can say is we will see.

There is just a small knot in my stomach at this time telling me Slimball trump will escape consequences for his many crimes and grift of people who choose to believe Slimball.

SeattleVet

(5,763 posts)
10. They had to be pretty selective on the docs they chose to charge him on...
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 01:48 PM
Jul 2023

they had to go through the owning agencies (National Defense Information remains the 'property' of the agency that created it) to determine which ones are OK to share with the attorneys and jury. Apparently there are some that are still too sensitive to be revealed like this.

Not to worry, though - it looks like they have WAY more than enough to make the prosecution stick.

MayReasonRule

(3,912 posts)
8. It Means It Delays Arraignment But Does Not Delay The Case
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 01:11 PM
Jul 2023


It’s reasonable to give a defendant a large amount of time to find the right lawyer. This case is unique so many lawyers may not want to be involved. If a charge is rare or complex, it may also require a defendant some time to find a lawyer.

Additionally it's only been around a week since he was indicted. Therefore the fact that he's looking for a lawyer isn't that weird, especially since a lot of the lawyers he might have chosen may already be personally conflicted or already overloaded with related cases courtesy of Jack!

This fella' needs to do the three-step...

Step one, ditch any lawyer Trump gets for him...

Step two, get his own lawyer to represent his interests, not Trumps...

Step three, take the new lawyers advice to flip on that fat fascist bastard if they'll still cut him a deal...

Raven

(14,272 posts)
9. May I add a Step 4...start a GoFundMe account for independent legal counsel. I bet he'd
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 01:26 PM
Jul 2023

raise a lot of money.

MayReasonRule

(3,912 posts)
13. No Doubt That He Would... What An Interesting Contributor Mix That Would Bring Forth!
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 02:10 PM
Jul 2023

The tangled web of underlying motivations for those that would donate is complex indeed.

BigmanPigman

(54,041 posts)
14. And "He was a very nice guy and never would do this"
Mon Jul 31, 2023, 04:03 PM
Jul 2023

That is what his neighbors told FL local news reporters. Same old, same old. Everyone was/is always a "nice guy", whether or not they are a domestic terrorist, mass shooter, etc. before they are caught. 8

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»Mar-a-Lago property manag...