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BumRushDaShow

(162,153 posts)
Tue May 9, 2023, 03:50 PM May 2023

Texas mall shooter's 8 weapons were legally obtained, authorities say, as motive remains unclear

Source: CNN

Editor’s Note: This story contains graphic descriptions of the shooting’s aftermath.

Allen, Texas CNN — The weapons brought to the attack on random shoppers at the outlet mall in Allen, Texas, were all legally obtained, Texas Department of Public Safety Regional Director Hank Sibley told reporters at a Tuesday news conference. He said the gunman had eight weapons with him: three on his person and five in his vehicle.

Authorities have said gunman Mauricio Garcia, 33, started firing an AR-15-style rifle – a weapon of choice among US mass shooters – in the parking lot of Allen Premium Outlets before making his way through the complex as shoppers and employees ran for cover, authorities said.

An Allen police officer on a nearby call responded and fatally shot Garcia. Sibley said the massacre was over with the shooter down just three to four minutes after the horror began. Investigators are looking at the gunman’s electronics and social media, trying to figure out what prompted the second-deadliest massacre in the United States this year.

“The big question that we’re dealing with right now is what’s his motive, why did he do this?” Sibley said. “Well, the big question is, we don’t know. That’s what the investigation is trying to find out.” Sibley said preliminary evidence shows the shooter targeted the mall, but not specific individuals.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/09/us/allen-texas-outlet-mall-shooting-tuesday/index.html



Article updated.

Original article/headline -

Texas mall shooter's weapons were legally obtained, authorities say, as motive remains unclear

Editor’s Note: This story contains graphic descriptions of the shooting’s aftermath.

Allen, Texas CNN — [Breaking news update, published at 3:24 p.m.]

The weapons used in the attack on the outlet mall in Allen, Texas, were all legally obtained, Texas Department of Public Safety Regional Director Hank Sibley told reporters at a Tuesday news conference.

He said the gunman had eight weapons with him: three on his person and five in his vehicle.

“The big question that we’re dealing with right now is what’s his motive, why did he do this?” Sibley said. “Well, the big question is, we don’t know. That’s what the investigation is trying to find out.”
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Texas mall shooter's 8 weapons were legally obtained, authorities say, as motive remains unclear (Original Post) BumRushDaShow May 2023 OP
Conservative keep saying our current gun laws are good enough IronLionZion May 2023 #1
Actually, Hank, the big problem is how someone everybody knew was off the rails got and stayed armed marble falls May 2023 #2
... Faux pas May 2023 #3
Motive is unclear on a man who had Swastikas' and SS Runes tattooed on him? Chainfire May 2023 #4
Seems Clear To Me, Too ProfessorGAC May 2023 #5
I think he targeted Asians or Hispanics lapfog_1 May 2023 #12
Thought The Same ProfessorGAC May 2023 #14
A Fuckin.. Men! Traildogbob May 2023 #7
+1 n/t area51 May 2023 #30
Bless your heart TexasDem69 May 2023 #6
Oh! Legally obtained! Nothing to see here, then, folks! Legally obtained. Aristus May 2023 #8
This goes against what the NRA always claimed: louis-t May 2023 #17
Another one for the never-ending list PSPS May 2023 #9
Immaterial. Grins May 2023 #10
Another shooter, another batch of legally obtained weapons. Initech May 2023 #11
Legally obtained in Texas? pwb May 2023 #13
As motive remains unclear? catrose May 2023 #15
Motive? How about too much hate talk media in his brain? GreenWave May 2023 #16
You can literally buy moniss May 2023 #18
It occurred to me that the design of this mall creates a lot of pedestrian traffic- tanyev May 2023 #19
Is it possible he targeted Asians? yardwork May 2023 #20
His victims were all Asian or Hispanic except for the security guard, tanyev May 2023 #22
Allen, Texas is 50% white, 21% Asian, 12% Latino, 9% Black IronLionZion May 2023 #24
I noticed that too BumRushDaShow May 2023 #21
Yeah, Hank, really hard to figure out the SS lightning bolt tattoo in terms of motive . . . hatrack May 2023 #23
"Legally obtained" in Texas just means -- pay with cash or card, no background check required n/t f_townsend May 2023 #25
Exactly SouthernDem4ever May 2023 #26
Domestic terrorists in plain sight They_Live May 2023 #27
Good guys w guns WcoastO May 2023 #28
No rules in TX means almost any gun is legally obtained. Lucky Luciano May 2023 #29

marble falls

(68,930 posts)
2. Actually, Hank, the big problem is how someone everybody knew was off the rails got and stayed armed
Tue May 9, 2023, 03:55 PM
May 2023
 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
4. Motive is unclear on a man who had Swastikas' and SS Runes tattooed on him?
Tue May 9, 2023, 04:00 PM
May 2023

Motive is he was a hateful son of a bitch who took his personal failures out on others. There are thousands more just like him and every damn one of them will have at least one AR-15...

lapfog_1

(31,347 posts)
12. I think he targeted Asians or Hispanics
Tue May 9, 2023, 04:42 PM
May 2023

with the exception of the mall security guard, who he may have targeted because he was a threat.

Family from Korea, Indian woman, little girls with Latin names...

He clearly wanted to think he was part of the "master race" and probably resented everyone else.

especially more successful recent immigrants and/or visitors.

Traildogbob

(12,067 posts)
7. A Fuckin.. Men!
Tue May 9, 2023, 04:11 PM
May 2023

Sick of these unclear headlines. It could not be any more clear. Full of hate….bought all those guns and gear to take THAT hate out on others. Not for hunting, not for defense, not for recreational fun at the range. He hated a Group of people and wanted them dead. End of story. Fuck Abbott. Many of us hate his useless ass, but will not go after him like these Nazis release their rage.
American terrorist need to be treated like all other terrorist.

Aristus

(71,162 posts)
8. Oh! Legally obtained! Nothing to see here, then, folks! Legally obtained.
Tue May 9, 2023, 04:12 PM
May 2023

I guess that makes it all right then; God-given gun rights and all...

louis-t

(24,506 posts)
17. This goes against what the NRA always claimed:
Tue May 9, 2023, 05:14 PM
May 2023

"They must have bought the guns illegally."

PSPS

(15,047 posts)
9. Another one for the never-ending list
Tue May 9, 2023, 04:20 PM
May 2023

There have been hundreds more since this was published:


Grins

(8,990 posts)
10. Immaterial.
Tue May 9, 2023, 04:20 PM
May 2023

I know Public Safety has to find the answer to those questions, but it doesn’t matter how and why. What matters is he amassed and used guns to massacre people he didn’t know. It is the guns that are the problem for Public Safety; deal with it!

Initech

(106,634 posts)
11. Another shooter, another batch of legally obtained weapons.
Tue May 9, 2023, 04:37 PM
May 2023

That's the commonality in all of this - they were obtained legally. I will never understand a country that values the weapons more than the victims of said weapons. Fucking madness.

pwb

(12,389 posts)
13. Legally obtained in Texas?
Tue May 9, 2023, 04:56 PM
May 2023

That means he paid for them or inherited them? Lots of Older widows end up with hubby's guns that end up with family. Possession of them after Granny goes is known only by God.

moniss

(8,232 posts)
18. You can literally buy
Tue May 9, 2023, 05:33 PM
May 2023

almost anything you want by private sale and you avoid the background checks etc. We should have done with guns what we have with vehicles. Title each one so the purchases can be tracked and require training and insurance in order to use it. Along with requiring a background check before any purchase or transfer. It would be helpful if they would require disclosure of all family members where the weapon is kept. There are more common sense things that can be done to cut down on these shootings but none of them will pass in the GQP states or at the Federal level.

These same kinds of clowns are what fuels "Knife Shows" that are usually on a similar track as the gun shows. So you end up with "Goober with a grudge" stocking his basement with assault weapons and dozens of knives and swords.

tanyev

(48,133 posts)
19. It occurred to me that the design of this mall creates a lot of pedestrian traffic-
Tue May 9, 2023, 05:44 PM
May 2023

Last edited Tue May 9, 2023, 06:51 PM - Edit history (1)

something that is not very common here in North Texas, so that may have played a role in why he picked it.

It still seems odd to me that he would pick Allen, TX to target non-whites. Allen is predominately white and there’s no guarantee what the racial make-up would be at that mall on any given day.

Unless he spent some time casing potential targets. And it’s very possible he did that. Sick, sick sick.

tanyev

(48,133 posts)
22. His victims were all Asian or Hispanic except for the security guard,
Tue May 9, 2023, 05:59 PM
May 2023

but the area is not known to be an Asian or Hispanic area like other parts of the Metroplex are. And there’s no indication so far that the shooter was familiar with Allen. His parent’s house and the residence hotel where he lived are in the north part of Dallas, quite a ways from where the shooting happened.

IronLionZion

(50,154 posts)
24. Allen, Texas is 50% white, 21% Asian, 12% Latino, 9% Black
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:18 PM
May 2023
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen,_Texas#2020_census

When I google mapped it, I noticed they have enough Indians for a Hindu temple.

The tremendous diversity of America can surprise even liberal DUers, but it enrages MAGAts, Nazis, and other low-lifes.

BumRushDaShow

(162,153 posts)
21. I noticed that too
Tue May 9, 2023, 05:57 PM
May 2023

particularly seeing the areal view of it and how sprawling it was - basically a (geometrically) cobbled-together strip mall.

 

f_townsend

(260 posts)
25. "Legally obtained" in Texas just means -- pay with cash or card, no background check required n/t
Tue May 9, 2023, 06:19 PM
May 2023

WcoastO

(55 posts)
28. Good guys w guns
Tue May 9, 2023, 09:07 PM
May 2023

In Texas, anybody carrying a gun is, by law, considered a good guy w a gun. In Texas, anybody that buys a gun from a store is, by law, considered to be a good guy w a gun. Until........

The US has an estimated 400,000,000-450,000,000 gun in circulation. If an armed society is a polite society, how many more are necessary for the US to be a polite society?

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