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BumRushDaShow

(162,518 posts)
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 12:30 PM Feb 2022

Dozens wounded in shelling of Kharkiv, as Russia strikes buildings with suspected cluster munitions

Source: Washington Post

MUKACHEVO, Ukraine — Ukrainian officials say at least 11 people were killed and more wounded in the eastern city of Kharkiv on Monday morning after Russia launched rocket strikes, targeting Ukraine’s second-largest city with some of the heaviest shelling and street fighting since the invasion began Thursday. Suspected cluster munitions struck buildings in the city.

Oleh Synehubov, head of the Kharkiv Regional State Administration, said Monday that “dozens are dying” and that at least 11 people were confirmed dead. He called the attacks, in three areas of the predominantly Russian-speaking city that had been considered more friendly to Russia, “a war crime.” “The Russian enemy is shelling entire residential areas of Kharkiv, where there is no critical infrastructure, where there are no positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine that the Russians could aim at,” he said in a message on Telegram.

As the shelling began, many Kharkiv residents were lining up at grocery stores and other shops to replenish supplies after being shut in for several days. Mark Hiznay, associate director of the arms division at Human Rights Watch, told The Washington Post that Russian forces had used smerch cluster munition rockets, which disperse submunitions or bomblets, in the attack, according to footage he reviewed. “This attack clearly illustrates the inherently indiscriminate nature of cluster munitions and should be unequivocally condemned,” he said.

Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International and open-source group Bellingcat have identified the use of cluster munitions in other Russian attacks in Ukraine over the past couple of days in what analysts say is a worrying sign that Russia may be turning to even more deadly military tactics. '“As Putin’s ‘special operation’ plan to quickly demoralize the Ukrainian army and occupy large cities unopposed appears to have failed, we may see a return to area bombings, which caused so much harm to Chechen and Syrian civilians,” Moscow-based Conflict Intelligence Team, an open-source intelligence group that monitors Russia’s military, said in a tweet Monday.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/02/28/kharkiv-rockets-shelling-russia-ukraine-war/



Here is the tweet linked to in the WaPo article -




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Earlier today, footage emerged of Russian Su-34 fighter-bombers flying towards Kharkiv, followed by footage of large smoke plumes, one of them geolocated in the North Saltivka residential area, next to Druzhby Narodiv (Friendship of Nations) street.
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This was taken here: 50.031454° 36.359348°. Camera is pointing north.
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CIT (en)
@CITeam_en
As Putin's "special operation" plan to quickly demoralize the Ukrainian army and occupy large cities unopposed appears to have failed, we may see a return to area bombings, which caused so much harm to Chechen and Syrian civilians.

We will be monitoring this situation closely.
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Dozens wounded in shelling of Kharkiv, as Russia strikes buildings with suspected cluster munitions (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Feb 2022 #1
Hopefully he doesn't go full "scorched earth" BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Feb 2022 #3
How long does the world stand by? C_U_L8R Feb 2022 #4
The world is not "standing by" BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #6
I know we're doing a tremendous amount C_U_L8R Feb 2022 #8
Sadly we have seen this happen in so many other countries BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #10
barrel bombs and fuel-air explosives coming soon.... getagrip_already Feb 2022 #5
I don't want a US war, but attacking civilian areas with cluster bombs has to be a war crime. Lonestarblue Feb 2022 #7
As I posted upthread BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #11
No one truly wants a world war, but is the world to watch as Putin murders Ukrainians? Lonestarblue Feb 2022 #12
You might be surprised what the cutoff of $$$ to the nouveau oligarchs can do BumRushDaShow Feb 2022 #13
Putin is an evil bastard. Good will conquer him. n/t iluvtennis Feb 2022 #9
K&R Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2022 #14

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

BumRushDaShow

(162,518 posts)
2. Hopefully he doesn't go full "scorched earth"
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 12:47 PM
Feb 2022

Right now he is like a caged and cornered animal.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #2)

C_U_L8R

(48,393 posts)
4. How long does the world stand by?
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 12:50 PM
Feb 2022

I know, it’s crossing a big line. But if we don’t stand up for humanity, we lose it.

BumRushDaShow

(162,518 posts)
6. The world is not "standing by"
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 12:56 PM
Feb 2022


What you are seeing is his panicked "reaction" to what the world "is doing" (bankrupting the country).

You want WWIII where fighter jets fly in and start bombing Moscow (although Russia would lose at this point but then night actually do a nuke)?

C_U_L8R

(48,393 posts)
8. I know we're doing a tremendous amount
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 01:02 PM
Feb 2022

but what does the world do when civilians are being carpet bombed? Again, I know physically protecting people is a big escalation, but it's heart-wrenching to see this horror.

BumRushDaShow

(162,518 posts)
10. Sadly we have seen this happen in so many other countries
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 01:12 PM
Feb 2022

and it has been discussed right here on DU. Iraq, Syria, and most recently, Saudi has been doing the same the past couple years in Yemen - yes Saudi Arabia has been CARPET BOMBING in Yemen.

Ukraine has a military that has been holding its own and the NATO countries have been getting weapons through to them as best as they can through the bordering NATO countries like Poland (and possibly Turkey).

getagrip_already

(17,786 posts)
5. barrel bombs and fuel-air explosives coming soon....
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 12:53 PM
Feb 2022

Those were deployed in syria with devastating results.

This is going to get much uglier.

Lonestarblue

(13,060 posts)
7. I don't want a US war, but attacking civilian areas with cluster bombs has to be a war crime.
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 01:01 PM
Feb 2022

Putin cannot save face now without basically leveling the cities of Ukraine and killing many thousands of civilians. The world cannot stand by and allow him to do this. I don’t know the answer, but NATO needs to help stop a willful slaughter of the Ukrainian people, all because Putin is not getting his way and is having a tantrum.

BumRushDaShow

(162,518 posts)
11. As I posted upthread
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 01:17 PM
Feb 2022

the world is not "standing by". What you see happening with this escalation, is in response to what the world IS DOING.

You seem to now want a "hot war" - akin to WWIII?

Lonestarblue

(13,060 posts)
12. No one truly wants a world war, but is the world to watch as Putin murders Ukrainians?
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 01:38 PM
Feb 2022

Putin is escalating his attacks, and he has no real way to save face now. Will sanctions be enough to cause a madman to give in? Doubtful. Will the Russian mikitary or his oligarchs act against him? Doubtful. So is the answer to wait weeks for sanctions to hurt Russia enough that forces inside Russia finally force a stop, after the Russian army has destroyed half of Ukraine? The humanitarian aim should be to stop Putin as quickly as possible, not to wait until hundreds of thousands die. I don’t have the answers, but leaving a madman to kill when you have the military power to stop him seems inhumane.

BumRushDaShow

(162,518 posts)
13. You might be surprised what the cutoff of $$$ to the nouveau oligarchs can do
Mon Feb 28, 2022, 01:50 PM
Feb 2022

It's not a matter of "waiting" for Russia to be "hurt". They had to close their stock market today, the ruble is toast, nations around the world are now cutting off air travel to/from there and over their airspace, and a huge shipping company is looking at cutting shipments from their company, destined to go there - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142879272

If you think the supply chain backups are an issue, well that will make it infinitely worse for them.

The main face-saving "exit strategy" lies in what goes on with the "negotiations" whenever they resume, and how some kind of "agreement" can be forged with wording that will at least initiate a cease-fire.

The U.N. is currently meeting in an extraordinary session - https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017716011

I expect many other countries will initiate their own sanctions but because they are not "Europe", they won't get much press.

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