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Auggie

(32,643 posts)
Thu Sep 30, 2021, 05:10 PM Sep 2021

Bad cops could lose their badges under new California law

Source: San Francisco Chronicle

SACRAMENTO — California will create a police decertification process, joining 46 other states that have a system to strip officers of their badges for professional misconduct.

Gov. Gavin Newsom on Thursday signed SB2, by state Sen. Steven Bradford, D-Gardena (Los Angeles County), which will allow state regulators to revoke the licenses of officers who commit “serious misconduct,” including using excessive force, committing sexual assault, displaying bias and participating in a law enforcement gang.

The policy has long been sought by activists to prevent officers who are punished by one agency from simply moving to another jurisdiction, and it became a legislative priority in response to last year’s racial justice demonstrations.

Newsom signed the bill during a ceremony in Gardena, surrounded by weeping families who chanted the names of their sons and brothers who had been killed by police.

Read more: https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/Bad-cops-could-lose-their-badges-under-new-16499739.php



Note: paywall at the link.

There's going to be a battle over details. But it's a start.
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Bad cops could lose their badges under new California law (Original Post) Auggie Sep 2021 OP
The only union I do not support are the police union AZLD4Candidate Sep 2021 #1
Yes, I sadly agree. mountain grammy Sep 2021 #2
Very STRONG union person here! AND bluestarone Sep 2021 #3
ditto. I think they need to make restitution besides losing badges. And be prosecuted if warranted. Evolve Dammit Sep 2021 #12
The problem is that they protect the bad and the good indiscriminately. Jedi Guy Oct 2021 #19
It is outrageous that this is not already the law. nt SunSeeker Sep 2021 #4
My first thought exactly. n/t whopis01 Oct 2021 #20
will there be a data base for them like bad drs ? AllaN01Bear Sep 2021 #5
my experience with that is that Drs. stick together and rarely will call out malpractice or validate Evolve Dammit Sep 2021 #13
There should be a federal database for this. LiberalFighter Sep 2021 #6
There must be, because according to the link ... Auggie Sep 2021 #7
It might only be a state database. Which require looking at each state database. LiberalFighter Sep 2021 #8
Well, perhaps California will spearhead a national database Auggie Sep 2021 #9
I support this legislation! lunatica Sep 2021 #10
I'm sick and tired of hearing about good cops... BlueIdaho Sep 2021 #11
So what 3 states don't have this law? Nt cannabis_flower Sep 2021 #14
Paywall. Unless someone can link it, I don't believe the SF Chronicle claim that CA joined "46" ancianita Sep 2021 #16
I posted the first four paragraphs exactly as they were written Auggie Sep 2021 #17
Appreciate that. I was just looking for the list of 46 other states with a similar cop reform law. ancianita Sep 2021 #18
Oregon & Nevada are about to get a whole lot of really bad cops... NullTuples Sep 2021 #15

bluestarone

(20,601 posts)
3. Very STRONG union person here! AND
Thu Sep 30, 2021, 05:48 PM
Sep 2021

I FULLY agree with your thoughts! I'm very sure these BAD COPS will someday join TFG'S army!

Evolve Dammit

(21,308 posts)
12. ditto. I think they need to make restitution besides losing badges. And be prosecuted if warranted.
Thu Sep 30, 2021, 07:40 PM
Sep 2021

Jedi Guy

(3,389 posts)
19. The problem is that they protect the bad and the good indiscriminately.
Fri Oct 1, 2021, 09:38 AM
Oct 2021

Police unions have their uses, just like any other union, but they need to stop defending officers no matter what, even when they're patently guilty.

The union where I work is like that and it drives me insane. I've had situations where an employee has done something wrong, the evidence is unquestionable, and the union defends them anyway.

As an example, a while back an employee and a supervisor were in the lunchroom together having a conversation, and at some point the employee called the supervisor a c**t to her face. The union defended the employee because she was on her own time as it was her lunch. Another was caught repeatedly in blatant time theft, and the union defended them, too.

Anywhere else I've ever worked, union or not, that would've resulted in consequences. But the union goes to bat, no matter what.

Evolve Dammit

(21,308 posts)
13. my experience with that is that Drs. stick together and rarely will call out malpractice or validate
Thu Sep 30, 2021, 07:42 PM
Sep 2021

actions/ behaviors witnessed. I suspect the same is true of lawyers and cops.

LiberalFighter

(53,544 posts)
6. There should be a federal database for this.
Thu Sep 30, 2021, 06:07 PM
Sep 2021

And require any law enforcement agency to make sure anyone they are considering are not in the database.

I think there should be a requirement that any federal funding for law enforcement agency requires those law enforcement agencies meet minimum standards to be eligible.

Auggie

(32,643 posts)
7. There must be, because according to the link ...
Thu Sep 30, 2021, 06:31 PM
Sep 2021
Roger Goldman, an emeritus law professor at Saint Louis University who studies police certification, said California’s process would be among the strongest in the nation. He pointed to a provision that also prohibits hiring officers who have been decertified in other states and the lack of a requirement for an officer to be fired by his or her agency before he or she can lose their license.

“That’s a good idea, because in some states, they’re so desperate for bodies, they keep people on that should be fired,” Goldman said.


In order to have "a provision that also prohibits hiring officers who have been decertified in other states" there would have to be a national database of some kind. If not, then a very thorough vetting process.

Auggie

(32,643 posts)
9. Well, perhaps California will spearhead a national database
Thu Sep 30, 2021, 07:00 PM
Sep 2021

Maybe it's part of the legislation or provides funding for something similar

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
11. I'm sick and tired of hearing about good cops...
Thu Sep 30, 2021, 07:38 PM
Sep 2021

Until they start actively cleaning up their own ranks they are co-conspirators.

ancianita

(42,391 posts)
16. Paywall. Unless someone can link it, I don't believe the SF Chronicle claim that CA joined "46"
Thu Sep 30, 2021, 09:31 PM
Sep 2021

other states.

I only found three that pass similar laws -- CO, IA and NY in 2020 (quick map below; can't find any others) -- and lots "discussing" and having bills about it, but no others since. Police unions are the likely reason.

ancianita

(42,391 posts)
18. Appreciate that. I was just looking for the list of 46 other states with a similar cop reform law.
Thu Sep 30, 2021, 10:34 PM
Sep 2021

About California, this is all good news, but Americans should not be fooled by the Chronicle's first sentence into thinking that police reform laws are now the national norm. They're not.

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