Former reporter accuses Cuomo of sexual harassment

[pnwmom]

Source: The Hill

Jessica Bakeman, who worked as a statehouse reporter, detailed a number of instances in New York Magazine in which she says Cuomo harassed her. Bakeman prefaced her accounts by saying that Cuomo had put his hands “on my arms, my shoulders, the small of my back, my waist” throughout her time as a reporter in the capital.

Bakeman wrote of one encounter in 2014 in which she went to briefly speak with Cuomo during a holiday party in which he allegedly ended up mocking her in front of her colleagues.

“He took my hand, as if to shake it, then refused to let go. He put his other arm around my back, his hand on my waist, and held me firmly in place while indicating to a photographer he wanted us to pose for a picture,” she wrote.

“I was wrong to believe this experience would last for just a moment. Keeping his grip on me as I practically squirmed to get away from him, the governor turned my body to face a different direction for yet another picture. He never let go of my hand,” she continued. "Then he turned to me with a mischievous smile on his face, in front of all of my colleagues, and said: ‘I’m sorry. Am I making you uncomfortable? I thought we were going steady.’ ”

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/542992-former-reporter-accuses-cuomo-of-sexual-harassment

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Dear Potential Workplace Harasser:

This isn't about your harmless INTENTIONS.

This is about your BEHAVIOR.

On the job, you may shake a woman's hand or physically help her upon her request. Other than that, keep your hands to yourself.

Thank you,

Millions of women employees

[Lunabell]

1. Is this number 7?

I can't keep up. Smh

[progree]

7. Number 8. But that doesn't matter to some - the higher the number, the more proof to them that it's

a Roger Stone setup.

[Budi]

23. Trump needs that pardon only a Gov can give him.

Roger Stone wasn't pardoned by Trump for no reason.
Salacious targeting in multiples is what Stone is famous for.

[IthinkThereforeIAM]

60. Exactly...

... Trump and the GOP need Stone and his dirty tricks, so it was just fine and dandy with them that he got a pardon.

[cstanleytech]

78. I still am of the opinion that everyone involved in these types cases should provide a sworn

affidavit under oath for what they claim happened.
Odds are then the one or ones that blink and do not do so are either lying or are guilty.

[UpInArms]

2. This has gotten exceedingly more stupid

This has gotten beyond stupid.

Roy Blunt came to my newspaper office ...

He wanted to discuss issues with me .. his chief of staff was there ... the secret service stood outside my office building ... no one in ... while we did an interview ...

I have nothing in common with Roy’s point of view ..

At the end of the interview, he stood next to me for a picture ... probably had his arm on my shoulder ...

One of my readers approached me after we published the article and picture and said ... were you hugging Roy blunt? I said ... no, he was hugging me.

Of course he wanted local publicity ... of course he wanted it to look like I supported him ...

It is not a power play ... it is what they do ... did I feel abused? No. I will say that he knows exactly who I am and when I send him a letter, he knows exactly what I am saying.

Ugggh. I am sick of people acting like everything is always about them. Sometimes it is just not.

I am sick of people lining up to play themselves as victims.

If you cannot understand being a reporter, go make baskets somewhere in a dark corner and you will never ever need to worry about a photo op.

....

Edited to add:

Bernie Sanders hugged me ... Bill Clinton leaned on my shoulder to sign an autograph for someone behind me ...

the Missouri Governor (Jay Nixon) hugged me every time he saw me ... I have been hugged by countless men in power ... what in the hell is wrong with people ... are we really supposed to ALWAYS be offended?

[crimycarny]

4. I read that as "um, ok"

I'm going to get bashed for this, I know, but as I was reading that I thought "Gee, how many times did something similar happen to me at company parties, etc." Sounds a bit misogynistic but not overtly sexual. Obviously it felt differently to HER so I'm not discounting she felt extremely awkward and sounds like she felt belittled, but that doesn't mean Cuomo meant it to be a sexual overture.

When someone had too much to drink at our office parties and did something similar (I work in a very male dominated field), I'd just put them in their place. Let the know right then and there to cut that sh*t out. Never felt like I had to just smile and take it.

Everyone is different of course. Again, not 'blaming' the reporter just saying that what seems like a sexual overture might have been a mere misogynistic gesture of an old of touch old fart who made a ham-handed attempt at a joke and assumed she would think it was funny. Perhaps he saw she was uncomfortable and tried to diffuse the moment but to her it came off as him mocking her.

[Mz Pip]

6. Yeah

I’m not see the sexual part of this. He’s certainly an ass but I wouldn’t call it sexual harassment.

[pnwmom]

12. Does he put his hands on men in the same way? If he doesn't put his hands

on the small of men's backs, and grip them and turn them for pictures, then it's sexual harassment when he does this to women.

[JI7]

106. Yes , he even hugs and kisses Chris Christie . It's a cultural thing.

[pnwmom]

107. I saw that. It's not the same because it was obviously mutual.

The women staffers who have been making allegations have said his physical contact with them was unwelcome.

And I'm pretty sure Chris Christie never said Cuomo stuck his hand up his shirt.

[Budi]

20. +a million .

Jfc 🤧

[Betty88]

109. agree

Sounds like some one gets a little touchy when he has a few.

[UpInArms]

8. I am just amazed

that anyone over the age of 12 hasn’t figured out the world ...

If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

[pnwmom]

13. If you want to put your hands on a woman, go find a girlfriend who doesn't mind. n/t

[UpInArms]

16. If you want to be in the public sphere, get over public

Interaction.

If you want to be either a virgin or a whore, pick one.

Life is not so compartmentalized. Not every touch is a come on, and you can’t figure out the difference, go home.

If you don’t want to run with the big dogs, stay on the porch.

[pnwmom]

21. This is inappropriate behavior directed in the workplace at someone on the basis of her sex.

That makes it sexual harassment, by definition.

If a man wants to behave this way, he should stay on his own porch with his dogs.

[UpInArms]

24. Excuse me

You are waaaay to sensitive

A touch is not always a come on.

Someone who is always in the immediate vicinity of someone else gives a sense of familiarity.

What was she wearing? If it was cleavage (and women do that) they should not be surprised when someone looks.

I was always in Levis with cowboy boots ... unless I was out a fancy gathering (and dressed for that) and never worried that someone would stand too close, make a joke about seeing me so often or ... god forbid ... ask me about my plans for the weekend. Sometimes, it is just conversation ...

I have been young and pretty and now I am old and crusty.

I still have admirers and I always know where I stand. I know my friends and I know who wants something I have.

The answers to any questions ... said or implied ... is my responsibility in my reply.

You own your own shit ... someone saying or doing something does not make it a come on. Your response is says really more about you than about who they are.

[crimycarny]

29. If I was this much of a wilting violet I would never have lasted

Again, I'm to get flack for this but why not speak up in a situation being described by the reporter? Cuomo not her boss. Sounds like she just didn't know how to speak up, not everyone is comfortable with that, and so wasn't able to handle it. Wished it had never happened and it has obviously bothered her. But on the other hand Cuomo may have had no clue. Like Joe Biden had no clue that sometimes he made women uncomfortable by grabbing their shoulders or getting a bit to close.

[UpInArms]

31. Then, maybe reporting and being there

Is not their vocation.

A convent, perhaps?

[crimycarny]

37. Maybe it's just because I'm older

I grew up having to deal with some pretty sexist behavior that, at the time, was considered "normal". I was a young 19-year old secretary (yes--typewriter even) at Lockheed years ago. LOTS of misogyny in that environment. Even at that young age I learned pretty quickly how to deal with it and never felt I wasn't in control of my own destiny by doing so. It never occurred to me to just take it and not say anything. The guys who had those tendencies quit that sh*t real quick and actually ended up giving me quite a bit of respect for it. Back then it was like "well, I'll try this and see if I can get away with it". Smack! "Oh, I guess not...."

[UpInArms]

39. I, early on, in 1980

Had an attorney (worked in a large prestigious firm) come on to me ... I reported him to Human Resources and it went to mediation ... it was not properly resolved ... I said “if you don’t fix this, I will leave. It didn’t get fixed. I left. I learned.

I know the difference and now, in retrospect, would have gotten in his face and made a scene. If you don’t like something. Do something. Right then. Make it ugly. Make it public. Otherwise, you allow it.

I don’t allow anyone to do or say anything that makes me uncomfortable.

If you can’t stand the world seeing your discomfort, you accept the consequences.
It doesn’t matter who they are. It matters who you are.

Otherwise, it is always past tense complaining.

[crimycarny]

41. Agree

And, to be clear, I’m not talking about issues such as sexual assault. For example if you work for someone and they try to isolate you and physically assault you. That’s a whole different ballgame.

But the examples I’m reading about seem more along the lines of boorish behavior that would seem to be easily remedied by a straightforward “stop that crap” or a trip to HR. If you do all that and it DOESN’T stop, that too is a different ball game.

[pnwmom]

90. Victim #7, who broke down in front of other staffers and supervisors, says that's exactly

what he did. He called her to the mansion, isolated her in a room, and stuck his hand up her blouse.

But how could she prove that? She couldn't, and he knows it. And anyone who's honest knows that.

[crimycarny]

94. Sounds like even more reason for an investigation

Otherwise it’s he said/she said. An investigation will dig into witnesses (like the staffers and supervisors she broke down in front of), any witnesses as to whereabouts of Cuomo, etc. This is exactly why an investigation is needed.

[pnwmom]

96. Any investigation that doesn't involve him stepping aside temporarily so he isn't supervising

the people who are potential witnesses against HIM will prove nothing.

Any staffer supervised by him will have reason to not cooperate at risk of damaging herself in her job.

[crimycarny]

98. I think AG James can handle this

Maybe have more faith in her?

[pnwmom]

99. She can't handle it well unless Cuomo temporarily steps aside, in line with EEOC guidelines.

Otherwise he could be intimidating potential witnesses who he is still supervising.

[crimycarny]

63. Oh geez--forgot about when I worked at an automotive plant

I totally forgot about the 2 years I worked in IT at an auto manufacturing plant. The IT company was separate from the automotive company, they contracted out their IT to my company. My company required males to wear suit and tie and women to wear suits as well, but they had to be skirts—no pants allowed. I had to walk through the plant to get to the offices upstairs. You’d think these men had never seen a female in their lives. They would literally stop what they were doing and stare at me the whole time I walked down the plant floor to get to the stairs that would take me up to my office. And, speaking of those stairs, they were steel mesh and some of the men would also sit under them so they could look up women’s skirts when they walked up the stairs. Classy, huh?

Well, I just made sure to wear shorts under my skirt and I’d go right up to the men standing there staring and start a conversation. You never saw so much stammering and red faces. After awhile they would simply call out “hi” as I walked down the plant floor and go back to their work. I also noticed they would not allow anyone to sit under the stairs when I walked up them.

It never occurred to me to get stressed out about the behavior. I just thought “ok, I know how to deal with this type.” And I did.

[UpInArms]

64. You seem like

a kindred spirit ... wish we were closer(physically) so we could share some great moments

[crimycarny]

80. Well, I'm a crusty broad too

Lol!

[pnwmom]

91. Why are you putting all the burden on the woman to deal with men like this,

and none on the men to not behave like sexually harassing high school students?

[pnwmom]

89. You're victim blaming -- yourself. No wonder you have so little compassion for these women.

All this time you've been blaming yourself for not standing up even more than you did.

[pnwmom]

88. How many of those misbehaving men were bosses who could control whether you got a raise

or even kept your job; or were given a decent recommendation letter if you decided to move on?

How many were Governors of a state?

[pnwmom]

87. Why? Because the STATEHOUSE reporter needs continued access to Cuomo in order to do her job.

By complaining about him, she risks having access to him cutting off. He has all the power, she has almost none.

And this is why we have Sexual Harassment laws.

Why do I feel we're having to reinvent the wheel here? Doesn't anyone remember what happened with Clarence Thomas and Anita Hill? Do Democrats only object when the abuser is a Republican? It's sure seeming that way.

And Cuomo had a clue. He even commented on her discomfort. Did you even read what she said? He knew that his behavior with her had been unprofessional, so he made a joke about it.

“I was wrong to believe this experience would last for just a moment. Keeping his grip on me as I practically squirmed to get away from him, the governor turned my body to face a different direction for yet another picture. He never let go of my hand,” she continued. "Then he turned to me with a mischievous smile on his face, in front of all of my colleagues, and said: ‘I’m sorry. Am I making you uncomfortable? I thought we were going steady.’ ”

Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/542992-former-reporter-accuses-cuomo-of-sexual-harassment

[pnwmom]

86. We are not talking about parties or fancy gatherings. We're talking about professionals

at the workplace. And it doesn't matter how young and pretty the staffer is, the law says the employer and other employees are supposed to keep suggestive remarks and fondling hands to themselves.

[Mary in S. Carolina]

66. Wow Virgin or Whore

Classy ... college educated UpinArms?

[Mary in S. Carolina]

40. Sounds like "UpInArms" has had some female problems

Just wondering UpInArms, how do women view you?

[UpInArms]

45. Well, Mary

It’s hard to determine ..

Of the many friends I have, it seems pretty well balanced between the women and men ...

Pm me if you want references

Lol! So funny!

The award given me from some dear peeps was ...

Lasting First Impression

I have treasured it forever and try ... every day to live up to it.

[Mary in S. Carolina]

49. Confused

I don't understand your thread, but I think anyone can come up with a few awards here or there even people like Bill Crosby and Harvey Weinstein. I am sure Bill Crosby and Harvey Weinstein have(had) friends that were both balanced men and women. I am just trying to understand why you are justifying illegal behavior? Have you had some.....issues?

[crimycarny]

51. I don't know you

But you strike me as the type who would show a more shy woman co-worker how to put the guy in his place. “Come on, I’ll show you how it’s done”. And then show her how to set the guy straight.

[UpInArms]

55. You are correct

Most peeps tell me they do not like conflict ... yet they, by never confronting it allow it

I know that conflict will never hurt me ...

Have been giving lessons on how to deal with it for 40+ years

[Nixie]

79. Haha, such irony! UpInArms is telling her sexual harassment

stories, but you are not believing it. See how that works now??

[pnwmom]

15. The fact that it happens a lot doesn't make it okay. It's a way of men like Cuomo

wearing them down. It starts in middle school and high school, when boys get grabby, and girls are taught to laugh it off.

We shouldn't have to.

When you told people to cut it out, were they your boss, or anyone else who controlled your job? Many women don't feel they have the choice to speak out, if they need their jobs.

[crimycarny]

25. Yes, it has been my boss before

More than once in fact. I just set them straight right away and that was it.

This woman was a reporter, correct? Did she work for Cuomo?

Funny, so many similar comments when Franken was on the hot seat. "He should have known better". "It's never ok to x,y,z",

[pnwmom]

17. This is why I said it's not about his INTENTIONS. It's not about whether

he meant it as a sexual overture.

A woman in the workplace shouldn't have to put up with this kind of "mere misogynistic gesture of an out of touch old fart." And when she does, regardless of the old fart's intentions, it's sexual harassment.

[UpInArms]

33. Ugggh.

[pnwmom]

9. Did you hug them back? Then it's a hug. Otherwise, it isn't. n/t

[UpInArms]

18. Of course

I am not afraid of who I am.

I am sick of wilting violets forever clutching their pearls.

[pnwmom]

22. Well, the woman reporter tried to squirm away. She didn't respond positively

to his gripping her body and manipulating it.

So it's NOTHING at all like a mutual hug.

[UpInArms]

26. Did he follow her home?

Dispute he chase her down the street?

Did he call her and attempt to continue it?

Squirm?

Explain that to me.

[Mary in S. Carolina]

44. Projection UpInArms

Sounds like you are trying to justify bad "illegal" behavior....why?

[UpInArms]

46. No projection

Just know when to become frightened and feel threatened

[Mary in S. Carolina]

54. And when is that?

Please educate us.

[UpInArms]

56. Come on over, mary

I have the time ... do you have the energy?

[Mary in S. Carolina]

65. Like I Said

You have all the answers, please educate us.

[pnwmom]

92. Despite what you think, employers don't get a free pass on the first fondling.

It's not up to the woman to object or stop him.

It's up to the employer not to get handsy in the first place.

[Beringia]

105. Wow, thanks for standing up to these people who think harrassment is just fine

No sarcasm

[pnwmom]

108. It's been shocking to see how common the attitude is.

And all the victim blaming -- wow.

Thanks for the support.

[Budi]

27. K & R Thank You!

The fact that not one of the story tellers has even a smidge of what amounts to 'sexual assault' & there are already a few who have been debunked & some so weak that it is impossible to interperat what they are actually referring to, says more about the credibility of the entire bs heap.

There's a source, a point of contact where this all began & THAT is where the investigation, called for by Cuomo himself, must eventually reach.

[UpInArms]

28. Looks like more of

them claiming their “15 minutes of fame” crap.

Sick to death of people not truly understanding what assault means and wishing they could be in the limelight for whatever moment

[Budi]

30. Yup. 15 minutes of fame leads to deals, name recognition & social media 'likes.'

Interviews, positions, fame & fortune.

And afterall, isn't that what it's really all about anymore!

Oh ya, and Trump's really going to need that Pardon by the Gov already being groomed for 2022.

[UpInArms]

32. Thank you for your clear vision.

I certainly miss Senator Al Franken.

[Budi]

34. Franken, Spitzer were targeted by Roger Stone inc.

With a little help from the dino herself.
Someone with position had to get that Franken ball rolling.
She's been stunningly silent with Cuomo.

The 'tell' will be who emerges to run for 2022 Gov.

As goes NY, so goes CA..~
And THAT's been the long goal swing of the horseshoe fringe all along.
That's been made clear by their own words.

[UpInArms]

47. This

👆🏼

[Mary in S. Carolina]

43. Projection

I see a lot of projection on this thread....just saying.

[Mary in S. Carolina]

69. Boylen...OK

Ok, if this is true - I will admit that I have been had, because if it were me getting sexual harassed, I would be devastated and not be starting a PAC.

[karynnj]

75. I think you misread the quote. She wants to support challenges to BOTH Schumer and Gillibrand

[Budi]

77. Thank you

[Mary in S. Carolina]

42. Date Rape vs "Misunderstood" Consensual Sex

What is the difference UpInArms?

[UpInArms]

48. I know the difference

Do you?

[Mary in S. Carolina]

57. What is the difference UpInArms?

Please just answer the question, it is a simple question. You seem to be the one "in the know" (according to your posts). Like I said please educate all of us.

[UpInArms]

61. Just read my other answer

And if you continue to harangue me, I will report you

[UpInArms]

59. Let's see

In 1978 ... I went out with this guy

He was a wrestler, but “seemed” nice ...

After dinner, we were going to watch teevee at his place ... he locked me in his house and threatened to kill me if I didn’t do what he wanted ...

Date rape

.....

Consensual sex ...

Dinner ... laughter ... playing ... sex ... no threats

.....

Big FUCKING difference

[Mary in S. Carolina]

62. I am very sorry

I am very sorry that this happened to you - many of us can relate, but I will never minimize "any" form of harassment (period). I don't want women to toughen up because they were not "raped". Give me a break, so women are weak because they have not been "raped" that is your standard? Any unwanted attention or touching is illegal.

[UpInArms]

68. That which does not kill you will only make you stronger

only makes you stronger

You can have object lessons (those that happen to others) or subject lessons (those that happen to you)

I wish none of my personal lessons on others ... I do not have to lose my own child to know the pain that others feel ..

Being strong and being tough are different ... I can be strong without being tough ...

I will never ever give anyone else the power to determine my life .. it will not be wrenched from my soul by any means.

Those who do not own their own destiny will forever be blown by the winds ... and then complain

That, to me, is sad and I have nothing but pity for them.

You do not know me, I understand that. I do not know you. Perhaps I should. Maybe there would be much to learn from each other.

I love people who are different from me. They are gusts of fresh air. They bring new thoughts, ideas and wonder to my world. If all I hear are my own thoughts, I become bored and tired of me. I am always glad the world is filled with others, they make me grow and learn.

Yet, I cannot abide users and abusers ... they merely seek to aggrandize themselves .. and take advantage of situations to make themselves more important without truly being additive.

[Mary in S. Carolina]

71. What Ever

[joshcryer]

72. You are awesome.

I may not agree with everything you're saying here but at least you're offering your own unique perspective.

[appmanga]

74. I find some of the replies you've gotten...

...very interesting. My particular view on what's happening with Cuomo is the same as it was when it was Joe Biden, Al Franken, and even Brett Kavanaugh being accused: everyone is entitled to due process and too many people are willing to go to a frothing mob mentality based on accusations. I'm not going to try to mitigate Cuomo's behavior, but is it a sense of entitlement and power madness that allowed him to feel he could "sexually harass" a woman in front of a camera, or is it just cluelessness, or just freaking idiocy?

I'm not a woman, so I lack that perspective, but I would still like to think before we yet again push someone out of their job we could at least get an attempt at fact-finding from an independent party?. That's what happened with Eliot Spitzer and Anthony Weiner. Are we any worse off for allowing the process to get to the truth of what happened with them?

[pnwmom]

93. Sick to death of people not understanding that sexual assault isn't required for

it to be sexual harassment.

Sick to death of people who also don't understand that sticking a hand up a woman's blouse and fondling her IS a form of sexual assault.

[crimycarny]

38. Eerily similar to what they tried with Joe Biden

Tara Reade for one. Other women saying that he made them uncomfortable by getting too physically close. I mean, where does it end? The media tried to run with it, Biden detractors still try to use it from time to time (calling him a "hair sniffer", etc).

[UpInArms]

50. Ugggh

These needy insecure grifting female (hate to call the women) attempt to manipulate a message to acquire sympathy, fame, or something I cannot define ...

All of them disgust me

James Comey being “surprised” that trump pulled a power play on him ...

All of these people have no business holding positions of importance ... whether in government or reporting ...

I so wish we still had full service gas stations

[UpInArms]

70. Ugggh

I had a female employee who loved the smell of my shampoo

I never considered her a “sniffer”

Lol!

[JI7]

81. The thing with Biden was that all the women he was actually pictured with

which they used as proof against him defended him.

One of the accusations against Biden claimed it happened at some event where he hadn't even been to.

[crimycarny]

82. Except for the alleged attack in the tunnel

Or wherever it was where Tara Reade claimed Biden attacked her and inserted his fingers in her vagina. I never believed that for a second but if we continue down this road of forcing people to resign before there are any investigations into the accusations then this shit will never end and we know the GOP is the most likely to use false accusations as a weapon.

[Skittles]

58. agreed

some of these sound ridiculous

[Hoyt]

3. Sorry to quote Bill Maher, but he said, "I don't need an investigation to know

this is wrong and creepy,” last week.

[True Dough]

19. Bill Maher is right

but I have a sneaking suspicion that Mr. Maher isn't squeaky clean either.

[progree]

5. "Dear Potential Workplace Harasser:" Amen. As a male, I had that figured out in the 1970's when I

began working. Sooner actually, but I had the maybe unfair advantage of having had a decent upbringing. Sorry about the DUers that says this kind of stuff is no big deal. I am just appalled.

He took my hand, as if to shake it, then refused to let go. He put his other arm around my back, his hand on my waist, and held me firmly in place while indicating to a photographer he wanted us to pose for a picture,” she wrote.

“I was wrong to believe this experience would last for just a moment. Keeping his grip on me as I practically squirmed to get away from him, the governor turned my body to face a different direction for yet another picture. He never let go of my hand,” she continued. "Then he turned to me with a mischievous smile on his face, in front of all of my colleagues, and said: ‘I’m sorry. Am I making you uncomfortable? I thought we were going steady.’ ”

IF this description is true, and some of the others, he sounds like a first class asswipe to me.

[pnwmom]

10. Thank you for getting it!

[Budi]

14. The stuff intriguing novels are made of..

[crimycarny]

35. Not saying it's ok

Simply saying that years of working in a male dominated field I learned to deal with these schmucks and put them in their place. In the situation the reporter describes, she didn't work for Cuomo so he didn't have power over her, it was in a public place so it's not like there weren't people around to help if she spoke up.

I took the situation into my own hands and didn't give the power over to the person making me uncomfortable. That put me in a position of control, not the other way around. And..YES...many times they were people who were in a position of power over me as far as being my boss or supervisor.

This is skirting the edge of victim blaming so let me make clear that I understand that not everyone feels comfortable pushing back. I feel bad that this woman felt humiliated.

[Budi]

36. K & R Thank You

"I took the situation into my own hands and didn't give the power over to the person making me uncomfortable."

As did I and many women, & men, who find themselves in such scenarios.
We have a voice at that moment to draw the boundary we set for ourselves.

[pnwmom]

95. OF COURSE HE HAD POWER OVER HER. She was the statehouse reporter so her job

meant she was supposed to cover HIM. If she got him angry by standing up for himself, or not complying with his rules, he could deny her access and prevent her from doing her job.

Why is that so hard to understand?

You are doing more than skirting the edge of victim blaming. In bragging about the contrast with your own wonderful ability to handle these situations, you are absolutely victim blaming.

[crimycarny]

97. Wow, you seem to have a lot of insider knowledge

Either that or you are making a hell of a lot of assumptions.

Regardless, all of that will come out in an investigation so you should be happy about that.

[pnwmom]

100. No, I expect almost nothing to come out of an investigation if Cuomo is left in place

supervising the witnesses who would need to testify about his behavior in the workplace.

[brush]

67. An investigation is needed. If what is described in this post...

happened, there were many witnesses and a photographer to back up her story if it's true.

Investigate, don't just accept one person's account.

And it should be done with every one of the allegations.

[Budi]

11. Can't wait to see who's piling on to run for Gov in 2022!

Fundraising already !!

Well if it's name rec your after in the dog eat dog world of likes & position...then jump in..no proof necessary...say anything, just get out there!

This is now past the point of ridiculousness.

Let the investigations begin!!

[Mary in S. Carolina]

73. Something Smells

So Lindsey Boylan is starting a PAC against Schumer and Gullibrand? Why did they sexually harass her? I will always side against the predator, but this changes everything.

If my dream job ended due to sexual harassment, I would be curled up in a ball and devastated. But Lindsey Boylan is starting a PAC against Schumer and Gullibrand because they have been silent?? Something smells and now calls into question her credibility and possibly the other women.

[pnwmom]

76. She is one of the 8 accusers. And the NYT interviewed dozens of staffers

who talked about his toxic workplace.

[Snackshack]

83. A hug...

Ok.

This has gone absurd. We don’t convict because of allegations, proof is the standard.

[pnwmom]

85. Is it absurd that accuser #7 objected to him putting his hand up her blouse?

And how is she supposed to prove that, since they were alone at his mansion when it happened?

It seems like by many people's standards, as long as an employer fondles a staffer in private, it's all good.

[Snackshack]

101. No- many peoples standard,

Including in a court of law is verifiable proof of a crime. We do not convict people and sentence them to jail off of nothing more than allegations or hearsay. N

Let an investigation into the allegations be conducted and see what is found. If true he should resign and if any charges can be brought against him they should be.

[MichMan]

102. What proof is adequate? She said he did it and he likely denies it.

Maybe she told someone later. Maybe there are witnesses? Doubt anyone would do something like sticking a hand up someone's blouse and fondle them with others around.

[pnwmom]

104. This is not about a criminal trial. This is about who should be in office

while an investigation is ongoing.

And the EEOC's policy is that the alleged harasser should step away from supervising any witness to sexual harassment investigation -- that the burden specifically is not on the complainant to do so, but the person who was complained about (as a paid leave.)

So he needs to step aside from being Governor while the investigation is ongoing, or it's just a sham.

[MichMan]

103. Apparently some people think unless there is video, it is all a lie

[Polybius]

110. When with a video, he'd have his defenders here

They would say “oh, it’s a fake!” or “she smiled when he touched her!”

[Cassidy]

84. Exactly.

Behavior.
Keep your hands to yourself.