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Initech

(106,531 posts)
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 07:03 PM Jul 2018

State Supreme Court removes measure to split California into three states from November ballot

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by muriel_volestrangler (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: LA Times

In a brief order, the court said it acted “because significant questions have been raised regarding the proposition’s validity and because we conclude that the potential harm in permitting the measure to remain on the ballot outweighs the potential harm in delaying the proposition to a future election.”

The court, meeting in closed session, also agreed to rule eventually on the measure’s constitutionality, a ruling that is likely to go against the initiative.

“They would not have removed it from the ballot unless it was their considered judgment that it is very likely not a valid measure that can go to the voters,” said University of Illinois law school Dean Vikram Amar.

The environmental group contended in its challenge that the measure amounted to a proposed revision of the state Constitution, which can be placed on the ballot only if two-thirds of both houses of the Legislature approve.

“Proposition 9 fundamentally conflicts with the Constitution and proposes instead to disregard and abolish California’s current governmental structure, including the Constitution’s declared freedoms,” the group said in written arguments to the court.


Read more: http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-three-state-court-20180718-story.html



Boom! Eat shit Putin!
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State Supreme Court removes measure to split California into three states from November ballot (Original Post) Initech Jul 2018 OP
Thank God Dopers_Greed Jul 2018 #1
California's Brexit. Lochloosa Jul 2018 #2
+1 California has come up with some of the wackiest propositions Snellius Jul 2018 #5
Me too!! ailsagirl Jul 2018 #10
That proposition brought to you by Putin berni_mccoy Jul 2018 #3
It will be back. just like Jason in the Friday 13th movies Va Lefty Jul 2018 #4
Or like the T1000! Initech Jul 2018 #7
Split how? By population? Land Mass? rocktivity Jul 2018 #6
It was basically a conservative way of telling Hollywood to fuck off. Initech Jul 2018 #8
Split to have 1 solid blue state, and two light red states Dopers_Greed Jul 2018 #13
With our without walls? rocktivity Jul 2018 #14
What ever happened to the secession petition? Puzzledtraveller Jul 2018 #9
I have a counterproposal jmowreader Jul 2018 #11
Good. Eat shit, Putin. nt SunSeeker Jul 2018 #12
Locking - duplicate thread muriel_volestrangler Jul 2018 #15

Dopers_Greed

(2,647 posts)
1. Thank God
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 07:04 PM
Jul 2018

This was the thing I was most worried about in November

Lochloosa

(16,598 posts)
2. California's Brexit.
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 07:17 PM
Jul 2018

Snellius

(6,881 posts)
5. +1 California has come up with some of the wackiest propositions
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 07:27 PM
Jul 2018

The ballot initiative process in CA has often been either ground-breaking or completely weird. The idea was good, to pass laws without going through the governor or legislature as long as citizens got enough signatures to put them on the ballot. But it often created some far-fetched proposals. That sometimes, with heavy, interest-group financed media promotion, passed. I remember ages ago when CA had on the ballot a proposition to ban what they were calling then "pay TV, an initiative funded largely by movie theater owners to not allow current films to be shown on a demand basis on TV. Basically, people were voting to give up their freedom of choice. It passed. Of course, it was completely unconstitutional and the State Supreme Court promptly threw it out.

ailsagirl

(24,284 posts)
10. Me too!!
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 10:36 PM
Jul 2018

Whew

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
3. That proposition brought to you by Putin
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 07:18 PM
Jul 2018

Va Lefty

(6,252 posts)
4. It will be back. just like Jason in the Friday 13th movies
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 07:23 PM
Jul 2018

Initech

(106,531 posts)
7. Or like the T1000!
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 07:31 PM
Jul 2018


rocktivity

(44,935 posts)
6. Split how? By population? Land Mass?
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 07:31 PM
Jul 2018



rocktivity

Initech

(106,531 posts)
8. It was basically a conservative way of telling Hollywood to fuck off.
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 07:32 PM
Jul 2018

Notice how they drew it so that Hollywood and LA were part of the new state - conveniently away from Nor Cal and So Cal. So yeah.

Dopers_Greed

(2,647 posts)
13. Split to have 1 solid blue state, and two light red states
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 12:13 AM
Jul 2018

rocktivity

(44,935 posts)
14. With our without walls?
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 12:16 AM
Jul 2018

rocktivity

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
9. What ever happened to the secession petition?
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 10:14 PM
Jul 2018

This just reminded me of that is all.

jmowreader

(52,703 posts)
11. I have a counterproposal
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 11:10 PM
Jul 2018

Divide California into seven states.

Divide the Bay Area into three states.

Divide the LA Basin into three states.

Put all California’s red areas into the seventh.

This gives us two Democratic senators to nullify anything the two new Russian senators do, and an additional ten Democratic senators. The GOP will never have a Senate majority again.

SunSeeker

(56,933 posts)
12. Good. Eat shit, Putin. nt
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 12:09 AM
Jul 2018

muriel_volestrangler

(104,983 posts)
15. Locking - duplicate thread
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 03:55 AM
Jul 2018

of https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142113067 . Please continue discussion there. Thanks.

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