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jpak

(41,780 posts)
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 08:02 PM Jun 2017

Southern Baptists voted overwhelmingly to condemn alt-right white supremacy

Source: Washington Post

Members of the Southern Baptist Convention voted Wednesday to condemn a white nationalist group during their annual convention, but only after fierce backlash following their decision a day earlier not to move forward with a resolution opposing the movement.

The decision was met with a standing ovation as about 5,000 members of the denomination voted to affirm their opposition to the alt-right movement, which seeks a whites-only state. But it was not a decision easily reached.

Dwight McKissic, a black pastor from Cornerstone Baptist Church in Arlington, Tex., had introduced the resolution calling on the denomination to make it clear it had no sympathy for the alt-right.

“I saw people identifying themselves as Southern Baptist and members of the alt-right, so this is horrifying to me,” McKissic said. “I wanted the Southern Baptist Convention to make it very clear we have no relationship to them.”

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Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/06/14/southern-baptists-are-about-to-vote-on-a-proposal-to-condemn-white-supremacy/?utm_term=.95b407f17137



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Southern Baptists voted overwhelmingly to condemn alt-right white supremacy (Original Post) jpak Jun 2017 OP
Awesome!!! Phoenix61 Jun 2017 #1
I was afraid to would be tabled!! juxtaposed Jun 2017 #2
Positive news, positive action Marthe48 Jun 2017 #3
dear southern baptists..welcome to the 21st century...and good for you! samnsara Jun 2017 #4
It was not a decision reached easily? LonePirate Jun 2017 #5
About time... paleotn Jun 2017 #6
What is the connection between Baptists and human ownership? DorothyG Jun 2017 #13
As a denomination, Baptists tended to be abolitionists as a matter of principle Tanuki Jun 2017 #17
thanks for the info DorothyG Jun 2017 #24
The Baptists split paleotn Jun 2017 #18
Good for them. Willie Pep Jun 2017 #7
Really beautiful news, and I mean that Hekate Jun 2017 #8
It's an odd thing pecosbob Jun 2017 #9
Bravo! Didn't Think They Had It in Them Stallion Jun 2017 #10
Well well, that's a start. Lil Missy Jun 2017 #11
They know the world is watching. nt Ilsa Jun 2017 #12
This is great news Gothmog Jun 2017 #14
Jimmy Carter bobbieinok Jun 2017 #15
Carter himself left the SBC over its misogyny. nt tblue37 Jun 2017 #19
Vote for show OriginalGeek Jun 2017 #16
you are right heaven05 Jun 2017 #20
My methodist cousin was fond of asking me OriginalGeek Jun 2017 #22
cnn: After high drama, Southern Baptists denounce the 'alt-right' riversedge Jun 2017 #21
Well, well. And all it took was the national media exposing their reluctance to do so. Squinch Jun 2017 #23

Phoenix61

(18,596 posts)
1. Awesome!!!
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 08:06 PM
Jun 2017

So glad to hear that. There is no place in a faith community for the alt-right. Actually there shouldn't be anyplace for them at all but definitely not in a faith community.

Marthe48

(22,121 posts)
3. Positive news, positive action
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 08:08 PM
Jun 2017

on a day that started out so bad. I am glad to see some affirming news!

LonePirate

(14,256 posts)
5. It was not a decision reached easily?
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 08:17 PM
Jun 2017

Thankfully enough of them took a few minutes to adopt a position Jesus would have supported.

paleotn

(21,053 posts)
6. About time...
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 08:24 PM
Jun 2017

for a denomination born from the diabolical idea that one human being can own other human beings like goats and sheep. It's about damn time.

Tanuki

(16,131 posts)
17. As a denomination, Baptists tended to be abolitionists as a matter of principle
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 06:11 AM
Jun 2017

and biblical interpretation. In the 1840's, this led to conflict in the slave-holding states. A schism occurred and self-identified "Southern Baptists" split off and twisted themselves into knots defending the institution of slavery. It is an ugly and shameful legacy (speaking as one who grew up attending a Southern Baptist church), and although they have long ago renounced slavery, they have drifted backwards since the 1970s and the leadership and members alike have been associated with extreme political and social conservatism.

DorothyG

(95 posts)
24. thanks for the info
Tue Jun 20, 2017, 02:15 PM
Jun 2017

I didn't realize the 'Southern' prefix denoted such a big distinction between two denominations.

paleotn

(21,053 posts)
18. The Baptists split
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 07:24 AM
Jun 2017

North and South in 1845 over the issue of slavery. Those in the south who supported slavery formed the SBC.

Willie Pep

(841 posts)
7. Good for them.
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 08:50 PM
Jun 2017

I vaguely recall that some Southern Baptist leaders weren't comfortable with Trump because of his rhetoric and because some of his followers were outright white nationalists.

pecosbob

(8,143 posts)
9. It's an odd thing
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 08:51 PM
Jun 2017

but this may be the first time I have ever felt any 'pride' for having been raised a Southern Baptist.

bobbieinok

(12,858 posts)
15. Jimmy Carter
Wed Jun 14, 2017, 11:09 PM
Jun 2017

IIRC Carter's church in GA split when a black man tried to join the church. Must have been in the 60s.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
20. you are right
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 10:29 AM
Jun 2017

won't change the mindset and appreciation of white supremacist thought among the white male leadership or it's lay group...period. I know how deeply entrenched, since Slavery Era inception/creation, racism is in that denomination.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
22. My methodist cousin was fond of asking me
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 03:54 PM
Jun 2017

"You know why i have to take at least 2 baptists fishing?"
"Because if I only take 1 he'll drink all my beer..."

I thought it was funny because i grew up in a fundie, independent baptist home. They were more strict than the southerns. But growing up in it I saw behind the scenes enough to know many many people who had their church face and their every other day face.

When you have ministers who routinely tell "N" jokes (from the pulpit) and youth pastors who openly "Hate N....s"* it's pretty hard to take any of this recent proclamation seriously.


*My youth pastor in high school was estranged from his brother because his brother played banjo in a dixie-land jazz band. And that was "N music".

riversedge

(78,456 posts)
21. cnn: After high drama, Southern Baptists denounce the 'alt-right'
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 01:26 PM
Jun 2017

was going to post this but I see you have it already



After high drama, Southern Baptists denounce the 'alt-right'

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/14/politics/southern-baptist-convention-alt-right/?iid=ob_lockedrail_longstory_pool



Chris Moody

By Chris Moody, CNN Senior Digital Correspondent

Updated 7:29 PM ET, Wed June 14, 2017
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Story highlights

Southern Baptist Convention leaders held a late-night Tuesday meeting
The group was debating whether to condemn the alt-right

Phoenix, Arizona (CNN)The Southern Baptist Convention moved to denounce the "alt-right" white nationalist movement Wednesday, a collective decision that occurred only after pastors pushed back against denominational leaders who initially chose not to address the issue.

At their annual meeting, Southern Baptists agreed to a statement decrying "every form of racism, including alt-right white supremacy, as antithetical to the Gospel of Jesus Christ."

Denominational leaders had planned not to vote on a resolution about race relations, but reversed course following an outcry on the floor of the convention the day before. Leaders worked through the night to craft an updated resolution after the original text failed to gain traction on the first day of the convention.

The debate began when Rev. Dwight McKissic, a black pastor from Arlington, Texas, called on Southern Baptists to formally condemn the movement's "retrograde ideologies, xenophobic biases, and racial bigotries" and re-affirm its opposition to racism in the aftermath of a presidential election that saw the rise of a small movement of nationalist and white supremacists that coalesced in support of President Donald Trump...............

Squinch

(57,497 posts)
23. Well, well. And all it took was the national media exposing their reluctance to do so.
Thu Jun 15, 2017, 07:01 PM
Jun 2017

Did they think no one noticed?
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