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Hal Bent

(59 posts)
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 04:40 AM Dec 2015

Iowa watchers split on who won Democratic debate

Source: Des Moines Register

Asked if corporate America should love her, Hillary Clinton answered with a confident smile: "Everybody should."

It was one of the best lines Saturday night in the third Democratic presidential debate, according to a handful of undecided college-age caucusgoers who weighed in on the performances for The Des Moines Register.

"This definitely highlighted exactly what this debate seemed to be about: Hillary Clinton," said Jessica Lynk, a 19-year-old Drake University student from Arlington Heights, Ill., who will be caucusing for the first time.

"I guess it was funny, but it was also awkward," said John Wingert, 20, of San Antonio, Texas, who is studying political science, international relations and German at Drake.

By the debate's end, the college-age debate watchers were split on who won. But on a night when all three candidates were credited by many national politics watchers with doing well, the lack of a big moment is typically thought to leave the advantage with the current front-runner: Clinton.

Read more: http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2015/12/20/iowans-react-to-democratic-debate/77646802/



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Iowa watchers split on who won Democratic debate (Original Post) Hal Bent Dec 2015 OP
The American People Won lobodons Dec 2015 #1
No one was showcased. former9thward Dec 2015 #17
No, the American people lost. zentrum Dec 2015 #18
A lousy 8 million viewers - running against John Lennons 75th Birthday Bash. Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #19
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #2
Hillary won - haven't you heard? tecelote Dec 2015 #3
I agree. Bernblu Dec 2015 #4
Not to mention the time the debate was held benefited Hillary. bulloney Dec 2015 #6
Imho, sour grapes. eom PosterChild Dec 2015 #9
Then you are a Hillary supporter! You folks sure have a lot of rotten fruit. Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #20
It was a stupid question. postulater Dec 2015 #5
Yes but beltanefauve Dec 2015 #15
Well if the first-time college age people interviewed are split--it's a win for HRC book_worm Dec 2015 #7
About 50-50 is what it's been all along . .. PosterChild Dec 2015 #10
A "handful"? They show 2 comments from 2 "undecided" people. Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2015 #21
One cannot serve two masters. nt raouldukelives Dec 2015 #8
You could hardly go wrong with any of our candidates. Gregorian Dec 2015 #11
A pointless, throw-away one-liner was the debate highlight? William Seger Dec 2015 #12
Thank you! skepticscott Dec 2015 #14
How many watched the Iowa State(#5)-UNI basketball game or went to Star Wars instead? xocet Dec 2015 #13
Why... paleotn Dec 2015 #16
 

lobodons

(1,290 posts)
1. The American People Won
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 04:46 AM
Dec 2015

Once again, the American people won tonight's debate with the Democratic party showcasing the adults in the room.

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
17. No one was showcased.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 07:23 PM
Dec 2015

The DNC deliberately put on debate on Saturday night which is the least watched night on TV. They did very little to publicize it. The fewer that watch the better for the front runner.

zentrum

(9,869 posts)
18. No, the American people lost.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 08:02 PM
Dec 2015

Because DWS and the DNC scheduled this debate on one of the least watched night of the year. The Saturday before Xmas is the very day most people were much too busy to watch.

Every MSM media outlet has been commenting for days about how the Democratic debates are being scheduled for nights in which the viewership will be suppressed.

DWS is preventing the Democratic message from getting out. The Republican debates are receiving 3x's the viewership, in part, because they follow a better schedule.

Anyone who watched would be impressed but most were at Holiday parties, etc. and not in a serious 3 hour debate-watch mood less than 7 days before Xmas.

It's scandalous.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
19. A lousy 8 million viewers - running against John Lennons 75th Birthday Bash.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 01:09 PM
Dec 2015

And of course most people are stressed from the work week and the last thing they want to do on a Saturday night is to watch a debate. The are out on the town, recuperating.

Response to Hal Bent (Original post)

tecelote

(5,153 posts)
3. Hillary won - haven't you heard?
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 04:57 AM
Dec 2015

She got center stage in three debates, the most questions and the most time to talk.

This is the way America is. The chosen ones get the best and we're supposed to feel lucky we even have a spot on stage.

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
6. Not to mention the time the debate was held benefited Hillary.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 08:12 AM
Dec 2015

Can it be more obvious? Around where I live, you were doing one of three things last night: Attending a Christmas party, Christmas shopping, or attending a local high school basketball game.

The fewer people who hear O'Malley and Sanders, the better for Clinton. Voters can then hear the spin given by the media the next day, which will be pro-Clinton, based on how they've spun the previous debates.

postulater

(5,075 posts)
5. It was a stupid question.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 08:10 AM
Dec 2015

Banks can't like people. Some bankers probably do. Some don't.

Not all bankers are assholes. But I want to vote for the candidate that the asshole bankers don't like.

book_worm

(15,951 posts)
7. Well if the first-time college age people interviewed are split--it's a win for HRC
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 09:09 AM
Dec 2015

because Sanders campaign has been saying they are the ones who are winning younger voters and new voters.

PosterChild

(1,307 posts)
10. About 50-50 is what it's been all along . ..
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 11:19 AM
Dec 2015

.... for younger voters. That is significant support compared to the older segments, but not the overwhelming support bernie's supporters claim and/or imagine .

Gregorian

(23,867 posts)
11. You could hardly go wrong with any of our candidates.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 12:26 PM
Dec 2015

I'm completely surprised at America's embrace of Bernie. An even race is beyond my wildest dream. Maybe someday the message will actually get through to everyone, and they'll stop believing the hype.

First you have to know what the hype is. Step one. Haha. I think it's a three step program in dehyping.

William Seger

(11,944 posts)
12. A pointless, throw-away one-liner was the debate highlight?
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:02 PM
Dec 2015

Thanks for the insightful synopsis, Des Moines Register.

 

skepticscott

(13,029 posts)
14. Thank you!
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 04:25 PM
Dec 2015

But sadly, yes...clever one-liners are usually all anyone remembers about these events. Which is why I refuse to watch them and why I won't even dignify them by calling them "debates". They are nothing of the kind, whether Democrats or Republicans are holding them.

xocet

(4,301 posts)
13. How many watched the Iowa State(#5)-UNI basketball game or went to Star Wars instead?
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 01:15 PM
Dec 2015

How many just went out because it was a Saturday night?

Note:
The debate on Nov. 14, 2015 was on tv at the same time as Iowa was playing their football rival, the University of Minnesota.

The debate on Dec. 19, 2015 was on tv as the second half of the Iowa State-UNI basketball game was being played.

Both of these debates were on Saturday nights.

The debate on Jan. 17, 2016 is on a Sunday night in the midst of a holiday weekend. UI will start that week on Tuesday. ISU and UNI will have started their semesters the week before the debate. (Will students prefer watching the Democratic debate or will they choose to take advantage of one the first two weekends back at school to go hang out with their friends?)

All of this limits the number of potential voters who might watch the Democratic debates and be convinced to support the Democratic Party.

President Obama should ask Rep. Wasserman Schultz to resign. Her leadership is bad for the Democratic Party. It seems as if she is intentionally limiting debate exposure in the state that is first to caucus.






paleotn

(21,081 posts)
16. Why...
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 06:46 PM
Dec 2015

...did the "Everyone should" (love her) line remind me of this?....



Just asking.


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