Hillary Clinton: No position on Keystone Pipeline.

[LawDeeDah]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2014/11/18/one-democrat-with-no-position-on-the-keystone-pipeline-hillary-clinton/

Yet as she moves toward a presidential candidacy, Republicans have been trying to draw her into messy congressional debates. With embattled Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.) scrambling to round up votes from her Democratic colleagues ahead of Tuesday night's scheduled Senate vote, Republicans are criticizing Clinton for remaining neutral on such a high-profile and contentious issue.

“She wrote a book called 'Hard Choices,' but she wouldn't take an opinion on the Keystone Pipeline," said Tim Miller, executive director of America Rising, a GOP group leading the attack on Clinton. "She may be the only person in America without a position on the Keystone Pipeline at this point.”

A Clinton spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Wait a minute... you mean all this info is completely wrong?...

Keystone XL Lobbyists Web of Corruption Infographic

Now that the web of Keystone XL tar sands industry lobbyists connected to Hillary Clinton has grown far beyond Paul Elliott, DeSmogBlog, Oil Change International, The Other 98% and Friends of the Earth have produced a new white board infographic to help everyone visualize this cast of characters.
http://www.desmogblog.com/keystone-xl-lobbyists-web-corruption-infographic

[olddots]

1. Oy

1 2 3 4 .........

[Iggo]

2. And she wants to be my President.

[B2G]

3. And no position on immigration reform,

global warming or any other controversial agenda items.

She's a candidate. I hate the whole process. Candidates are like a box of chocolates.

[Jack Rabbit]

34. Box of chocolates

Any movie with that cliche is just a bad movie, not worth seeing twice.

[dionysus]

73. come on.. Forrest Gump was a great movie!

[kysrsoze]

4. HA! Way to get out in front of that one, Hillary.

I'd love to see "The Inevitables" explain this one away on her behalf.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

25. 4-10% lead over some of the biggest assholes the Republican Party has to offer.

That's all we need to know, you left leaning independent who doesn't belong on DU!

[Dopers_Greed]

31. She'd probably have an even bigger lead over the republican assholes...

If she actually had any principles.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

38. No one knows what she stands for. And she's been on the national stage since when...

1992? (Gawd, has it been that long?!)

[sabrina 1]

75. They will tell you that 'the other guy is worse'. That's the campaign slogan from what I have seen.

[cali]

5. she really is pathetic. and a coward.

[still_one]

6. That is a stupid answer, even if she wants to hedge she can say she has some concerns of the

Environmental impact and cost, and needs more information. Instead she says I don't have an opinion

I really hope Brenie runs as a Democrat, if nothing else to show her how it is done

[LawDeeDah]

10. Amazing gutlessness.

I could respect someone who is wrong, but has convictions. I can't respect someone who is fraidy cat scared of everything.

[LondonReign2]

7. But she's got 64%!!!!!

[Buns_of_Fire]

11. Seems to me I've heard that somewhere before... nt

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

8. But..but..she's a STRONG, UNAFRAID, candidate!!

[hifiguy]

9. Cowardice, thy name is Hillary Clinton.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

12. As Dr. McCoy said in the Star Trek episode, The Retirn Of The Archons

"we all know one another in Landru".

[L0oniX]

45. Friend ...are you of the body?

[TheKentuckian]

63. LOLZ

[City Lights]

13. No profile in courage there.

Ugh. How completely unsurprising of her.

to HRC.

[Buns_of_Fire]

19. "Political courage" is just SO last century.

There's a good reason no one has ever attempted a "Volume II" to JFK's work.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

14. Riiiiiiiight......

[sadoldgirl]

15. Maybe she wants to wait

until Obama may, just may, veto it, to then give a garbled response.

The more I hear of her recent responses to questions, the more I hope

that Bernie will run.

Please, pretty please: Run Bernie, Run!

[SidDithers]

16. Post something about Haiti - Open for Business, too...nt

Sid

[LawDeeDah]

17. Bill Clinton: 'We should embrace' the Keystone Pipeline

oopsey

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

20. To paraphrase from the movie Braveheart and the leprous Scottish nobleman

You Hillary will condemn it and gain Democratic favor by opposing it from our lands in the north. I will gain Republican favor by supporting it from our lands in the south.

[Robbins]

26. If he's for it

So is she.

[LawDeeDah]

28. Did you note him saying that the danger of the pipeline is imagined?

then later he goes into the, oh shucks, aren't I just the cutest little guy routine to offset the vile crud he just said.

[joshcryer]

18. You don't give soundbytes to the enemy before the election.

[cali]

22. lol. yeah, hill never does that. except for every other week.

she's constantly handing out ammunition. and she's such a coward.

[joshcryer]

59. Here's how it plays out:

Clinton: I support Keystone.

Democrats in the Senate shoot it down.

MSM: Clinton not supporting her party, stands alone with Landrieu. Landrieu ostracized by her own party.

Or it can go this way:

Clinton: I don't support Keystone.

Democrats in the Senate shoot it down.

MSM: Clinton not supporting project supported by the people, Democrats hurting progress, Landrieu left in the dust.

Her position will be to support it, and she will be open and forthright about it and it won't be "cowardly." She will point out that there are already two other pipelines going to the Gulf and that she supports re-export restrictions on the TransCanada contract.

[roguevalley]

65. 50 american jobs clinton. she is a compromised coward

[Union Scribe]

23. So she's not going to say anything until 2017.

Awesome.

[Autumn]

27. Okay

My laptop is a mess thank you very much here's a and a 5

[L0oniX]

46. Yer bad!

[joshcryer]

60. Keystone will be discussed in the campaign.

It will be pointed out that the goal is to get the oil to the refineries there in the gulf.

It's unnecessary to say anything before a Senate Democrat has their election.

[Old Nick]

21. I think we already know

[WorseBeforeBetter]

24. Jaysuz, it's so incestuous.

And that's a helluva lotta money for a whopping 50 "permanent" jobs.

[Scuba]

29. Destroy a major aquafer for 50 jobs and a $100 billion more in the Koch brother vaults.

This is why Democrats should not be supporting Hillary Clinton for President.

[B Calm]

30. And the Republicans are calling it an energy plan to make this country energy independent.

[L0oniX]

47. Liars. That shit will be shipped out to other countries.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

32. You have put your finger right on it, my dear Scuba!

I agree completely!

She just makes me want to scream and throw up. Seriously.

[helpmetohelpyou]

33. have to pick a side

[blm]

35. Thankfully, Kerry has always been against Keystone, and HE is the one

informing Obama now.

[fadedrose]

66. I think that Obama said in his last public comments

that the decision on the feasibility of the XL Pipeline was determined by the State Dept. So Kerry knows - had to be his idea ....

[blm]

68. Clinton left behind a lengthy report favorable to Keystone.

I had long felt KXL was a 'done deal' as far back as 2010 because of it, and that Kerry would be burdened with the task of following through to protect Clinton's primary campaign. I hope to be proved wrong.

[RufusTFirefly]

36. Now THAT'S the kind of leadership America craves!!

Sort of like Brawndo, except for politics, not plants.

.

[Curmudgeoness]

37. Am I the only one who thinks it is a good strategy

for her to just avoid this for now? She has nothing to gain by taking a stand on it, just in case this is moot by the time 2016 comes around.

Is it chicken-shit to stay silent? Yes. But is it smart to stay out of this fray? Yes.

[LawDeeDah]

43. Upon further thought, she Has to avoid it. Everything points to her and

her husband supporting Keystone in the past, so her vote has been cast. She wouldn't want to repeat it now, out loud, nor would she want to say she didn't support it because the proof is out there she does.

I guess people have short memories and the Clintons rely on that.

A Lot.

[Curmudgeoness]

48. We all know that people have short memories.

How do you think that most politicians get re-elected? As soon as something new comes along, people forget the old news. Well, some people do....a lot of people....but not all of us.

[fadedrose]

71. Curm, she doesn't have your courage

I know that from previous exchanges with you in Books (Fiction).

You say what you think and so do I. Sometimes we are not "smart" for being like that, but people tend to trust us dummies. (I think)

[Curmudgeoness]

74. I am not a politician.

And if I were, I might not be so open about my opinions. In fact, if I wanted to succeed at politics, I know that I would not be able to do that....I would have to learn to do the side step.

Good to see you!

[Sancho]

39. Just like Obama, Hillary is a good politician.

She has a position, but is not going to let it be used against her.

I don't like the system either, but the politicians who win understand how to win.

[L0oniX]

49. If only the US people could win.

[Sancho]

50. The American people don't vote...

I thought when we won the vote for 18 year olds it would make a difference...and I thought wars in Korea and Vietnam would get people to the polls. Every now and then things look a little better, but overall the majority doesn't express themselves.

[L0oniX]

54. They don't vote because the system is fixed against them and they know it.

[Sancho]

56. The system isn't great, but when 30-50% vote, it's not the system but it's the participants.

Millions get excited about the upcoming football games, but won't vote. I'm sure that lots of sociologists and economists, and political expects can cite their explanations, but the final figure is dismal. Americans are not excited about government.

If 80% voted, then things would change.

[L0oniX]

57. More than 50% didn't vote this last election.

[Sancho]

58. Exactly...people don't vote...that's what I said originally.

If more voted we would have better results. As long as half vote, we have to make do with politicians who can win amongst the minority who participate.

[L0oniX]

61. Voting for rich people who are backed by more rich people is so inspiring.

[roguevalley]

67. there will be a violent blow back to this. she will have nothing to say about that either

[Cosmic Kitten]

82. You IGNORE that elections are on WORKDAYS

Working families are given ONE DAY to vote...
a mid-week workday
Can you afford to miss work,
or not be home to care for your family?
MOST of US cannot!

Football is on SUNDAY...
A day many if not most have off from work.
Make Tuesday the day to go to church and
tell me what that turnout looks like.

Put elections on weekends!
The lets see what the turnout looks like.

[Sancho]

84. Like the majority of people in my county, I voted by mail...

For the last 3 election cycles, virtually anyone in Florida can vote by mail. http://election.dos.state.fl.us/voting/absentee.shtml

Also, early voting is available including evening hours and weekends. Here's the link to early voting hours and locations: http://election.dos.state.fl.us/pdf/Early-Voting-2014-General-Final-English.pdf

Even then, the polls are open from early in the morning until 7 PM most places. If you are in line by 7 you can vote.

There's nothing to ignore and no conflict with work. People simply don't vote.

[JoePhilly]

40. Smart to stay out of the current circus.

[jalan48]

41. Corporate Shill

Ole Hillary is working her Third Way magic. But, when she runs it will be all about "Progressive" values. She's a bit like Mary Landrieu think.

[darkangel218]

77. +1

[MyNameGoesHere]

42. nice finger painting

Whose child did that poster?

[bigwillq]

44. I don't have an issue with her remaining silent on this issue.

She's not running for public office. At least not yet. She doesn't have to comment on policy at this point.

[Mike Nelson]

51. After she announces her likely run...

...she will have a position ready. I'm guessing she's against the pipeline and would rather not take positions until the initial checks are cashed.

[LawDeeDah]

53. All indications show she and Bill are very much For the Pipeline.

[LawDeeDah]

52. Hillary Clinton's State Dept. Oil Services

[Odin2005]

55. Classic DLC spinelessness.

[sendero]

62. And the triangulation......

..... just goes on and on.

[roguevalley]

64. she can't talk out of both sides of her mouth as well as her ass as she glides toward entitlement

[woo me with science]

69. Third Way oily manipulative. Again.

What a contrast to the direct honesty and leadership of Bernie Sanders:

Bernie Sanders DROPS A TRUTH BOMB Re: Keystone
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10025835789

[LawDeeDah]

70. Hillary might have a juicy, good paying speech lined up with Koch Industries

thanking her for her good works.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

72. While she's proclaims her "respect" for the voters....she doesn't trust.

[darkangel218]

76. No position, eh?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

[truebluegreen]

78. Dishonest, and a coward.

It's exactly like asking a Supreme Court nominee what his/her position on abortion is and receiving the answer that he/she doesn't have one. Riiiiight.

[bhikkhu]

79. I support her on that

Its a private project that shouldn't be politicized. Obama's opposition has been to the politicization, which has been trying to fast-track the program ahead of the review process. The hysteria on both sides misses all the important points, and is a sideshow to real issues. Hillary seems intelligent enough to see that, as is Obama.

[gyroscope]

80. This tells me HC doesn't care about anything

....except getting elected and increasing her own power and prestige.

[KamaAina]

81. Buck-buck-BRAWWWK!

[CanonRay]

83. Not exactly a profile in courage