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JonLP24

(29,762 posts)
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 04:51 AM Feb 2021

FBI Informant Panic Is Ruining Friendships All Over the Far Right

As federal authorities crack down on the far right after the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, the movement’s leaders have found new sources of suspicion: each other.

In the Trumpist “America First” movement and the far-right paramilitary group the Proud Boys, alliances are fracturing as extremists brand each other as potential informants. Now racist live-streamers are accusing their former comrades of attempting to turn over followers to law enforcement, while Proud Boys chapters are splintering from the national organization over similar fears.

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Declaring the aftermath of the Capitol riot “a million times worse” for the far right than the crackdown that followed the fatal white supremacist rally in Charlottesville in 2017, Casey claimed, without offering evidence, that Fuentes’ bank accounts have been frozen by federal authorities. He also accused Fuentes of planning to drive cross-country, rather than fly, to the Florida conference because he suspected he was on the federal no-fly list, then concealing that possibility from his followers.

Worst of all, Casey argued, Fuentes planned to gather all of his supporters in Orlando, where they could be easily recorded by federal investigators or informants. He went on to suggest America First’s members would see the conference for what he thinks it could be: an FBI trap.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fbi-informant-panic-is-ruining-friendships-all-over-the-far-right-proud-boys-and-america-firsters

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FBI Informant Panic Is Ruining Friendships All Over the Far Right (Original Post) JonLP24 Feb 2021 OP
I heard the Donald cut a deal with the FBI, telling on Proud Boys to avoid prosecution. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #1
I'm sure it's true. Many have seen it on the interwebs. jaxexpat Feb 2021 #2
Where did you hear this? Nt TexasLefty29 Feb 2021 #9
Wait, he's been raking in millions upon millions on his various legal campaigns msfiddlestix Feb 2021 #15
I've heard all this and more. /nt yardwork Feb 2021 #21
wait. You heard Donald cut a deal with the FBI? Where did you Hear this? msfiddlestix Feb 2021 #13
Many people are saying. I'm not, but many fine people are saying that. Very fine people. Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #14
Yes, it's been said by many in the know central scrutinizer Feb 2021 #17
Money may have changed hands. Mistakes were made! Freedom was jeopardized! Hermit-The-Prog Feb 2021 #18
Yes, many fine people on both sides. Many people are saying this. More than anytime in our history KewlKat Feb 2021 #22
We are only seeing the Tip of the Iceberg, so far... Ford_Prefect Feb 2021 #3
Good malaise Feb 2021 #4
Excellent. Get them all turning against each other. Buns_of_Fire Feb 2021 #5
+1 2naSalit Feb 2021 #7
Hopefully, many patriotic young folks will join the FBI because Roisin Ni Fiachra Feb 2021 #6
About the "none left" stuff, I don't think it works like that jaxexpat Feb 2021 #19
It'll scare quite a few away from Turin_C3PO Feb 2021 #24
There is no honor among thieves or Proud Boys. nt leftyladyfrommo Feb 2021 #8
If you can't trust a white nationalist terrorist who can you trust? marmar Feb 2021 #10
heh Dorian Gray Feb 2021 #12
There cannot be enough mental and physical damage heaped upon the TrumpRiotMonkeys. nt Progressive Jones Feb 2021 #11
All right wing fanatics suffer from out of control paranoia. It's firmly oasis Feb 2021 #16
Gee, that's too bad. Sorry to hear it. smirkymonkey Feb 2021 #20
Easy to access means easy to infilitrate Johnny2X2X Feb 2021 #23
 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
2. I'm sure it's true. Many have seen it on the interwebs.
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 07:28 AM
Feb 2021

Trump needs the money. Can't sell his name. It's running at negative value in most markets. For reasons he can't understand, his plan to live off the generosity of his children is not panning out either. His properties (what real interest he actually controls) are depreciating faster than Melania's credit score and he's got planes pulling messages across the sky offering advice about his options, none of which he can monetize. He has no marketable skill and a reputation for poor work habits, leaving him unemployable. His business plan is definitely at the juncture where his easiest profit potential lies in betrayal of his supporters. I mean, after all "freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose", right?

msfiddlestix

(8,148 posts)
15. Wait, he's been raking in millions upon millions on his various legal campaigns
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 10:07 PM
Feb 2021

how could he be broke? He's still raking it in like gang busters I thought.

central scrutinizer

(12,621 posts)
17. Yes, it's been said by many in the know
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 10:45 PM
Feb 2021

That names were named, deals were struck, pleas were bargained, the passive voice was abused.

KewlKat

(5,776 posts)
22. Yes, many fine people on both sides. Many people are saying this. More than anytime in our history
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 09:41 AM
Feb 2021

Buns_of_Fire

(18,878 posts)
5. Excellent. Get them all turning against each other.
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 08:03 AM
Feb 2021

And once that starts, how long before they start suspecting that maybe, just maybe, Dear Leader has started selling them out and disposing of the non-performing assets?

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
6. Hopefully, many patriotic young folks will join the FBI because
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 09:52 AM
Feb 2021

of the terrorist assault on the Capitol, and will be dedicated to rooting out these domestic terrorists, until there are few or none left to root out.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
19. About the "none left" stuff, I don't think it works like that
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 09:25 AM
Feb 2021

So long as there are laws, there will be people to break them. So long as fear is motivation to sit and worry, terrorists will be around to play on it.

Turin_C3PO

(16,381 posts)
24. It'll scare quite a few away from
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 10:01 AM
Feb 2021

engaging in terrorism or sedition if the FBI and DOJ really put the hammer down on these assholes. Most of these idiots aren’t as determined as we might think. Most have jobs, families maybe. They don’t want to go against the government once it gets real. There will still be some who commit terrorism but the number will be reduced.

oasis

(53,107 posts)
16. All right wing fanatics suffer from out of control paranoia. It's firmly
Sun Feb 14, 2021, 10:21 PM
Feb 2021

embedded into their DNA.

Johnny2X2X

(23,537 posts)
23. Easy to access means easy to infilitrate
Mon Feb 15, 2021, 09:52 AM
Feb 2021

The same things that made attracting new members online for them have made infiltration easy. It's all online, it's all anonymous, it's easy. And above being infiltrated by the authorities or left leaning groups looking to report them, there's a lot of false leaders in their ranks, people egging them on that are not really all in and are just doing it for kicks. One major Q leader whose online persona was named "The Commander" and pretending to be ex military in the know, turned out to be a 13 year old kid just looking for attention.

The FBI has been warning about these groups for years, the last administration did little to prevent this extremism, that will change now. Bottom line is that these groups need to stop planning terrorist attacks and stop promoting violence, if they don't they're going to be shutdown and/or arrested.

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