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flashman13

(2,593 posts)
Sat May 30, 2026, 10:16 PM 19 hrs ago

In a time when we have a President who refuses to take responsibility for anything, I thought I would like to

give an example of what true leadership looks like.

I recently watched a movie which included a segment on the D-day invasion of Normandy. On the night of June 5th before the troops began to land, General Eisenhower drafted this note in his own hand:

Our landings in the Cherbourg-Havre area have failed to gain a satisfactory foodhold and I have withdrawn the troops. My decision to attack at this time and place was based upon the best information available. The troops, the air and the navy did all that bravery and devotion to duty could do. If any blame or fault attaches to the attempt it is mine alone.

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struggle4progress

(126,791 posts)
5. ... Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those
Sat May 30, 2026, 11:48 PM
18 hrs ago

who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.

This world in arms is not spending money alone.

It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children.

The cost of one modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30 cities.

It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000 population.

It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some 50 miles of concrete highway.

We pay for a single fighter plane with a half million bushels of wheat.

We pay for a single destroyer with new homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people.

This, I repeat, is the best way of life to be found on the road. the world has been taking.

This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron ...

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/address-the-chance-for-peace-delivered-before-the-american-society-newspaper-editors

RPM

(5,673 posts)
3. Even traitorous, shitheel R.E. Lee took credit / blame for Pickett's Charge at Gettysbutg
Sat May 30, 2026, 11:37 PM
18 hrs ago

more respectable than you know who.

flashman13

(2,593 posts)
7. Let's be fair and honest. Stalin was no doubt a monster, but he saved his nation. Without the sacrifices of the Russian
Sun May 31, 2026, 12:16 PM
5 hrs ago

people, Hitler would have prevailed.

Irish_Dem

(82,689 posts)
9. I seriously debated including Stalin in my list, but he is such a bastard.
Sun May 31, 2026, 12:52 PM
5 hrs ago

I couldn't do it.

The SOB killed 2 million people in the Battle of Stalingrad, civilians and military.
It is the largest and most deadly engagement in world history.

It is debatable whether the battle had any significant tactical strategy.
Or was it just a dick waving contest between Stalin and Hitler because the city
carried Stalin's name, so a vanity project.

Stalin also engineered mass starvation which killed millions of Ukrainians in the Holodomor.
The list of Stalin's crimes go on and on.

Churchill hated Stalin's guts and would not even speak to him.
He never trusted him further than he could throw him.
He let FDR handle Stalin.

So I just could not add Stalin's name to the list with Churchill.

But yes thanks to the Russians we are not speaking German right now.

Tommy Carcetti

(44,593 posts)
10. More accurately, the Soviet people
Sun May 31, 2026, 01:01 PM
5 hrs ago

The people fighting under the Red Army were not just ethnically Russian but rather from the various other Soviet republics as well.

And they all still suffered horribly under Stalin.

Except those like my family who fled, not wanting to be a part of either the Soviet Union or Nazi Germany.

flashman13

(2,593 posts)
11. Stalin specifically called for the defense of Mother Russia, not the Soviet Union. He demoted the Commissars and
Sun May 31, 2026, 01:40 PM
4 hrs ago

returned the badges of rank and orders of the old Tsarist military. He understood that an appeal to patriotism had more power than ideology.

ananda

(35,598 posts)
12. My dad credited Russia for the fall of Hitler.
Sun May 31, 2026, 01:49 PM
4 hrs ago

He fought in the South Pacific against the Japanese.

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