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dalton99a

(95,130 posts)
Fri May 8, 2026, 11:39 AM Yesterday

Predictions of a blue tsunami are premature

With the latest partisan interference from the racist, activist court

And Republicans will soon unveil more dirty tricks to deter and suppress minority voters

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Predictions of a blue tsunami are premature (Original Post) dalton99a Yesterday OP
Yeah, that's been my take all along, November is what counts, not polls now bucolic_frolic Yesterday #1
Democrats need a burst of energy and sense of purpose and soon. TheProle Yesterday #2
Goes to show once again.... Hey Joe Yesterday #3
100%. dalton99a Yesterday #6
If people are motivated to vote against this garbage then these predictions are not premature SSJVegeta Yesterday #4
With all the new rules against us Tree Lady Yesterday #5
Predictions are Just That Aepps22 Yesterday #7
Great time to introduce some bold policies leftstreet Yesterday #8
If we are not at war, gas is cheap & the economy is humming Norbert Yesterday #9
With the exception of 3 justices... NEOH Yesterday #10
Yup, remember 2024. republianmushroom Yesterday #11
we cleaned up in specials going into 24. mopinko Yesterday #12
No lies detected... RT Atlanta Yesterday #13
The streets orangecrush Yesterday #14
I have thought Democrats were celebrating doc03 Yesterday #15
Remember when asshole said if we're at war KS Toronado Yesterday #28
Yep he will do whatever it takes even locking himself in his bunker. nt doc03 23 hrs ago #32
We don't need a blue tsunami or a blue wave, we just need to win the majority in the House. That is all. n/t iluvtennis Yesterday #16
And if everything else fails then a false flag attack, state of emergency declaration, and no elections. OGBuzz Yesterday #17
We need better messaging, including a 24/7 YouTube channel run by a coalition of podcasters, journalists, highplainsdem Yesterday #18
Nope. Democrats will win and it won't be close. Wiz Imp Yesterday #19
Thank you. tavernier Yesterday #20
Sadly, I've become one of those people EnergizedLib Yesterday #25
Like half the content some days be like Sympthsical 23 hrs ago #33
Even after the gerrymandering which has been completed so far, there are over 80 Republican Districts Wiz Imp Yesterday #21
That's what voter suppression is for. FoxNewsSucks Yesterday #26
Absolutely. 2000, 2016 are perfect examples of that. I am so sick and tired of these third party voters, or those who lostincalifornia Yesterday #22
I've been saying this all along. The idea that our politicians will take care of all this for us, because PatrickforB Yesterday #23
Plus, of course, there'll be climate collapse 68er Yesterday #29
Indeed. I believe we are in the end stages of this age. It has been the age of great empires, great PatrickforB Yesterday #31
Maybe we want to hold a Bettie Yesterday #24
I think the blue tsunami is there in terms of FoxNewsSucks Yesterday #27
You change the rules and move the goalposts. . . DinahMoeHum Yesterday #30
I still don't believe trump won every battleground state. Emile 23 hrs ago #34
100% these sick fascist fucks are up to something. Initech 23 hrs ago #35

bucolic_frolic

(55,692 posts)
1. Yeah, that's been my take all along, November is what counts, not polls now
Fri May 8, 2026, 11:42 AM
Yesterday

Simple reversion to the mean would tighten the race. Now who knows what to think.

TheProle

(4,056 posts)
2. Democrats need a burst of energy and sense of purpose and soon.
Fri May 8, 2026, 11:55 AM
Yesterday

If the current fatalism and fatigue persists, November could be horrid.

Hey Joe

(769 posts)
3. Goes to show once again....
Fri May 8, 2026, 11:55 AM
Yesterday

That when conservatives find it difficult to push their authoritarian agenda ,
despite the threat against democratic institutions and norms,
they will not abandon authoritarianism ,
they will abandon democracy.

SSJVegeta

(3,033 posts)
4. If people are motivated to vote against this garbage then these predictions are not premature
Fri May 8, 2026, 11:56 AM
Yesterday

But if they arent then it wouldnt matter anyways.

Tree Lady

(13,384 posts)
5. With all the new rules against us
Fri May 8, 2026, 12:04 PM
Yesterday

Republicans will have to vote for dems or stay home for us to win.

I feel so unhopeful this morning about November now.

Aepps22

(410 posts)
7. Predictions are Just That
Fri May 8, 2026, 12:13 PM
Yesterday

This was never going to be easy but the resolve to fight is very encouraging. Things are so terrible that the Republican lies aren’t working. Can’t convince people that things are better when they can feel it everywhere that they aren’t.

Norbert

(7,844 posts)
9. If we are not at war, gas is cheap & the economy is humming
Fri May 8, 2026, 12:25 PM
Yesterday

I'd say we would have a problem. What are the odds especiallywhen his approval at sub-35%?

NEOH

(354 posts)
10. With the exception of 3 justices...
Fri May 8, 2026, 12:26 PM
Yesterday

I really do hate this SCOTUS…with the purplest of purple passions!!!

mopinko

(73,871 posts)
12. we cleaned up in specials going into 24.
Fri May 8, 2026, 12:48 PM
Yesterday

they dont fight the skirmishes. they DO fight the war.

RT Atlanta

(2,783 posts)
13. No lies detected...
Fri May 8, 2026, 12:50 PM
Yesterday

it's hard not to feel overwhelmed and hopeless (and I know that is by design and intention from those ass lickers that hate anyone other than a white wealthy male voting).

always darkest just before the light....

onward....

orangecrush

(30,976 posts)
14. The streets
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:12 PM
Yesterday

Are the only avenue they seem to be leaving open.

Hence the billions to fund Trump's private militia and the ballroom bunker.

doc03

(39,154 posts)
15. I have thought Democrats were celebrating
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:19 PM
Yesterday

way too soon. With the redistricting and voter
suppression we will be lucky to take the House. In the meantime Trump's war could be over and gas prices could be back down.

KS Toronado

(23,797 posts)
28. Remember when asshole said if we're at war
Fri May 8, 2026, 02:44 PM
Yesterday

there would not be elections? He's scared to death of us taking the House or Senate, because there goes his
power. If no war with Iran then it'll be Cuba, Greenland or someone else. IMO

iluvtennis

(21,519 posts)
16. We don't need a blue tsunami or a blue wave, we just need to win the majority in the House. That is all. n/t
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:25 PM
Yesterday

OGBuzz

(515 posts)
17. And if everything else fails then a false flag attack, state of emergency declaration, and no elections.
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:32 PM
Yesterday

highplainsdem

(62,923 posts)
18. We need better messaging, including a 24/7 YouTube channel run by a coalition of podcasters, journalists,
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:38 PM
Yesterday

pundits, activists, lawyers and celebrities who are willing to speak out in support of liberal issues and the importance of this election. All those people donating their time.

None of the individual podcasters, journalists, etc., or even TV networks have enough reach on their own. We need them cooperating on a 24/7 streaming channel that will be there with the latest news and responses and analysis any time anyone wants to check in, with short videos created and released constantly on TikTok and other platforms.

And we need them to be willing to donate their time and expertise. This is an emergency.

Wiz Imp

(10,341 posts)
19. Nope. Democrats will win and it won't be close.
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:45 PM
Yesterday

The gerrymandering may allow the Republicans to somewhat limit their losses, but it won't prevent them from losing the majority. And I suspect some of the gerrymandering will backfire on them. In order to redraw a Democratic district to a Republican majority, it requires they dilute their majority in previously safe R districts. I expect them to lose quite a few districts that pre-gerrymandering would have been easy wins.

https://www.racetothewh.com/house
2026 House Election Forecast
Every week day, the House Forecast simulates the election 10,000 times. Since it was launched in 2022, it has correctly called 97.2% of races.

Chance to Win House Majority
Democrats 81.1% Chance
Republicans 18.9% Chance

Projected Seats Won
It takes 218 seats to win the House Majority
Democrats 233.7 Seats
Republicans 201.3 Seats

https://www.publicpolicypolling.com/polls/independents-moving-strongly-against-trump-gop/
Independents Moving Strongly Against Trump, GOP

Independents tend to decide elections and PPP’s latest national poll finds Donald Trump and Republicans are in a lot of trouble with them.

Just 29% approve of the job Trump is doing to 63% who disapprove of him. Only 64% of the independents who voted for Trump are still happy with the job he’s doing and that’s brought his overall approval with people who voted for him in 2024 down to 80%. This is the weakest we’ve seen him with his base.

Trump’s fall with independent voters is having an impact on the outlook for this fall at the ballot box too. Usually independents are pretty closely divided, with just a small lean in one direction or another. Not this time- Democrats lead the generic Congressional ballot 51-30 with them.

Thanks to those independent voters, Democrats have a 48-41 generic ballot lead. And there are signs within the numbers that things could get worse for Republicans- among the folks who are undecided only 22% approve of the job Trump is doing to 56% who disapprove.

tavernier

(14,497 posts)
20. Thank you.
Fri May 8, 2026, 01:57 PM
Yesterday

There are plenty who come here daily with the intention of getting us to lose hope. Some are actual people.

Wiz Imp

(10,341 posts)
21. Even after the gerrymandering which has been completed so far, there are over 80 Republican Districts
Fri May 8, 2026, 02:21 PM
Yesterday

where their margin is less than 10%. Every single one of those is in play in November. Democrats won't win all of them or maybe even most of them, but they only need to win a dozen or so to have a significant (20+ vote) margin in the House. Seems pretty guaranteed to me.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,908 posts)
26. That's what voter suppression is for.
Fri May 8, 2026, 02:31 PM
Yesterday

They are aware of all of this also. They take steps to cheat, lie and steal. I don't see sufficient countering. Not always for lack of trying, but they are making the cheating legal and will likely use ICE for intimidation at the polls.

lostincalifornia

(5,499 posts)
22. Absolutely. 2000, 2016 are perfect examples of that. I am so sick and tired of these third party voters, or those who
Fri May 8, 2026, 02:21 PM
Yesterday

won't vote because the "perfect" candidate in their eyes isn't there.

Just look at the craziness of the California Governor race. There are about 60 candidates on the ballot, and the only thing they are accomplishing is confusing voters trying to find their candidate in the list of candidates.

The sad truth is that there are a lot of low information voters out there who lack critical thinking skills.

2024 was evidence of that.

We had a sociopath who tried to overturn the 2020 election, and told us exactly what he was going to do through Project 2025 and Russel Vought if he was elected again.

For those who were so fixated on the Palestinian plight, and because of that refused to vote DEMOCRATIC, not only have they screwed America with a Supreme Court that is gone for decades, but ironically they screwed the Palestinians, and any hope for a two-state solution, yet alone even a place to reside.




PatrickforB

(15,508 posts)
23. I've been saying this all along. The idea that our politicians will take care of all this for us, because
Fri May 8, 2026, 02:23 PM
Yesterday

they genuinely are balancing our needs against Wall Street and the billionaire robber barons is a pipe dream.

For decades the American people have been too lazy to become well-informed and many don't even bother to vote. This is because the underlying truth is that Congress has failed again and again in imposing regulation to help our middle class and tax policies that ensure corporations and robber barons are paying in their fair share of taxes so social safety nets can be adequately funded.

This is not the Republicans doing this, either. They are sock puppets owned by billionaire robber barons, funded by the big corporate lobbies and superpacs. Sadly, many on our side take this blood money in campaign donations as well. For example, the Colorado Sun, which is a nonprofit indy paper, reports the following concerning Hickenlooper, one of Colorado's senators:

Financial and Corporate Ties

Top Donor Industries: During his 2020 Senate campaign, the securities and investments industry (Wall Street) was a top contributor to Hickenlooper, providing over $1 million.

Corporate Contributions: Despite calling for a reduction in corporate influence, Hickenlooper has received significant funding from corporate executives and lobbyists, including individuals at firms like Microsoft and UnitedHealth.

Oil and Gas Industry: Throughout his career, including his time as governor, Hickenlooper has accepted donations from the oil and gas industry

My point: We will have to enlarge No Kings and somehow find the will to stop cooperating through general strikes like the one on May 1, 2026 that NONE of the corporate media (except a one-off by Rachel) reported on at all. It got NO play.

Indeed, we are among the most brainwashed people to ever walk on the face of the earth. We have been ruled by corporate funded fearmongers who drive wedges to divide us and make us hate and mistrust each other while crossing our fingers and hoping the federal government won't screw up things too badly.

Those days are coming to an end, and we will see come November when the blue wave does not come and the Republicans, with the help of billionaire robber barons and Wall Street, steal the election so Project 2025 can be cemented and an Orban-like autoritarian regime finalized.

I speak to many people and what I hear from younger people is disgust, a belief their vote does not count, and a growing belief the whole corrupt thing will have to be torn down and rebuilt from scratch, using blockchain to enforce transparency, punishing any corruption severely, and stressing employee-ownership, coops and benign corporations, community gardens, and economic independence from the shit-show that has been the federal government since around 1964 when the MIC took over and had LBJ send 500,000 troops to Vietnam. Because hey, the MIC investors be hungry for profits! Then and now.

And what I have seen advanced now is a political-industrial complex, carefully put in place by Wall Street to ensure the media companies gain massive profits from ever-more-expensive election campaigns. I get dozens of texts and emails that always go this way, "This outrage-de-jour has been perpetrated by Republicans! We are opposing this. But we need money. Please give us money so we can do the right thing for you!"

Problem is, they don't. The last legislation that partially mitigated high healthcare costs was the Inflation Reduction Act of 2022. But that was weak and incomplete because as I have said before, I spent that entire four years being told how great the economy was, while still carrying massive healthcare debt. I see kids at work trying to dig their way out of massive student debt. I see childcare costing an arm and a leg - so much that our birthrate is now too low for the population in the US to grow.

So two questions are germane here:

Why does it have to be like this?

and

What will we choose to build when the Trump administration succeeds in pulling down the whole economy around our knees?

Will we have the political will as a middle/working class to stand up? Or will we continue to sit in our chairs, support corporate media profits with our donations to organizations vowing to 'fight for us?' Will we have the will to look within ourselves and create strong communities where we are? Self-sufficient ones less dependent on federal funding?

We are living the end of an age and we can either close our eyes and bury our proverbial heads in the sand, or dramatically increase civic engagement and reinstitute our moral compass.

The moral compass is the problem you see. The current legal doctrine of shareholder primacy capitalism both encourages and rewards sociopathic behavior. This is why what is happening now is happening now. It is the robber barons whose insatiable greed is causing them to squeeze us all too hard.

The billionaires and Wall Street financiers have sown the wind. Now, what will they reap?

68er

(10 posts)
29. Plus, of course, there'll be climate collapse
Fri May 8, 2026, 03:12 PM
Yesterday

... which the other side finally, ultimately, won't be able to hide, or keep successfully distracting from, and which will abet the "tear down and rebuild" aspects, no matter what. Though of course, it's looking more and more like we're going to have to do this -- go through this -- "the hard way."

Questions to consider are: rebuild to what? (as you allude to in your post), and also, what happens as the US becomes more and more of a pariah state, if the GOP holds on to power. That, perhaps, may also accelerate the U.S. "devolvement" into separate, smaller polities, at some point.

As I said -- looking more and more like "the hard way."

PatrickforB

(15,508 posts)
31. Indeed. I believe we are in the end stages of this age. It has been the age of great empires, great
Fri May 8, 2026, 04:13 PM
Yesterday

financial centers.

Now, we are being forced by these larger global events to turn inward to our own communities - the people we live with and around, and with whom we interact on a daily basis.

There are a lot of good things happening, and it is in these smaller communities that we can really create goodness and sustainability. Oh, we cannot ignore the national and international shit-shows. I'm not saying that.

What I am saying is that we can gather thought leaders in our own communities and begin quietly setting strategies that promote living in harmony with the earth and all its life, each other and the creative power, however we may imagine that.

We must remember it is not people who start wars. It is the little 'patriot' boys in suits and the Wall Street shareholder primacy infrastructure that start wars. Unfortunately it is not the financiers, robber barons and war profiteers who are maimed and killed in wars. It is the people - the children, the mothers, the grandparents.

Oh, I know - 'the price of liberty is eternal vigilance,' the best defense is a huge military and so on and so on and scooby dooby doo. And in truth, if we ignore the common defense there will always be some joker somewhere who gins up hate and fear, equips a bunch of people with weapons and lets loose the proverbial dogs of war.

But the people don't want that. I don't want that. The people starving in Gaza don't want that. The parents of those little girls killed in the double tap bombing of that school don't want that. The only people who want that are those in the military-industrial complex Ike warned us about so long ago.

Ah, but the greed of these emotional toddlers is insatiable and the current doctrine of shareholder primacy encourages and rewards sociopathic behaviors - like starting wars for instance.

War is the ultimate stupidity. Peace is better, and living in harmony better still.

It is past time we start being human centered instead of profit centered.

Bettie

(19,833 posts)
24. Maybe we want to hold a
Fri May 8, 2026, 02:23 PM
Yesterday

Little bit of hope.

Not much of that in the current state of the world

FoxNewsSucks

(11,908 posts)
27. I think the blue tsunami is there in terms of
Fri May 8, 2026, 02:34 PM
Yesterday

voter feelings of disgust and disapproval of republicons.

But they know that too, and never stop working to legalize their cheating via court rulings and laws.

We may want a giant wave to wash the scum away, but they're making sure we won't have the means to do it.

Initech

(109,159 posts)
35. 100% these sick fascist fucks are up to something.
Fri May 8, 2026, 05:09 PM
23 hrs ago

I knew something was wrong in 24 when they maliciously blocked the two largest newspapers from endorsing Harris. Like they knew fuck head was going to win in advance.

Something is rotten in DC. Time to find out what.

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