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kairos12

(13,600 posts)
Sun Apr 5, 2026, 04:47 PM Yesterday

Read today. 3 people you never trust.

1. A religious figure who tells you how to vote.
2. A politician who tells you how to pray
3. A draft dodger who tells you how to be patriotic.

On point.

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Read today. 3 people you never trust. (Original Post) kairos12 Yesterday OP
Message auto-removed Name removed Yesterday #1
Awww. I wish I knew who just had their post removed. Barron - was that you? erronis Yesterday #2
I had friends years ago that were exempt multigraincracker Yesterday #3
Wish I knew how to do needlepoint... BattleRow Yesterday #4
"Never trust anyone who says 'you can trust me', my mother told me so BigmanPigman Yesterday #5
Never believe anyone who says "believe me!" sop 22 hrs ago #11
Excellent! liberalla Yesterday #6
That would make a good sign! KT2000 23 hrs ago #7
So true on all 3 FakeNoose 23 hrs ago #8
Very much INDEED on point! calimary 23 hrs ago #9
Perfect. LoisB 22 hrs ago #10
I think the first and the last are only semi-accurate EdmondDantes_ 21 hrs ago #12
"Unfortunately distilling things into easy sound bites doesn't always reflect a complicated reality." OldBaldy1701E 9 hrs ago #13
..and plenty of patriotic people decided justaprogressive 6 hrs ago #14
Sorry, I consider "draft dodging" to avoid being fighting in an immoral war is indeed patriotic. The Vietnam War was an Martin68 5 hrs ago #15

Response to kairos12 (Original post)

erronis

(23,941 posts)
2. Awww. I wish I knew who just had their post removed. Barron - was that you?
Sun Apr 5, 2026, 05:21 PM
Yesterday

Does truth hurt your little feelings?

multigraincracker

(37,700 posts)
3. I had friends years ago that were exempt
Sun Apr 5, 2026, 05:26 PM
Yesterday

from the draft because they were members of the UU church. I am now a member.

EdmondDantes_

(1,814 posts)
12. I think the first and the last are only semi-accurate
Sun Apr 5, 2026, 08:54 PM
21 hrs ago

Russia has a military draft. Is avoiding that unpatriotic given the war in Ukraine is immoral? William Calley and Benedict Arnold both served in the military.

And plenty of religious leaders don't directly tell you who to vote for, but tell you to vote for people who feed the poor or bring peace and in any election sadly that's often

Unfortunately distilling things into easy sound bites doesn't always reflect a complicated reality.

OldBaldy1701E

(11,189 posts)
13. "Unfortunately distilling things into easy sound bites doesn't always reflect a complicated reality."
Mon Apr 6, 2026, 08:10 AM
9 hrs ago

You are so correct.

Of course, there is the fact that we as a nation do love to make things exceedingly complicated when they really don't need to be.

And, placating that desire is not helpful either.

Usually, anytime someone talks about 'complications', it is because of the desire to 'get a piece of the action'. The entire 'complicating' factor is other greedy people wanting in, or trying to stop you from getting what they believe is 'theirs'.

justaprogressive

(6,935 posts)
14. ..and plenty of patriotic people decided
Mon Apr 6, 2026, 11:55 AM
6 hrs ago

they would not go to VietNam, leaving the country, not expecting to be allowed to return...

Martin68

(27,779 posts)
15. Sorry, I consider "draft dodging" to avoid being fighting in an immoral war is indeed patriotic. The Vietnam War was an
Mon Apr 6, 2026, 12:38 PM
5 hrs ago

immoral, stupid war, and the US committed multiples war crimes there. Would you suggest a "patriot" should go to prison and be raped to prove their patriotism rather than avoid the draft? I'm not talking about people like Trump and George W. Bush who dodged the draft not because they were morally opposed to a war but because they didn't want to serve their country risk their lives for their country. The proof of the pudding is that when they both became politicians and gained the highest office in the land, they launched illegal, immoral wars. A draft dodger who avoids going to war for valid moral reasons can indeed give good advice about being patriotic.

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