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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI never thought I would say this, but after seeing Trump's bat shit crazy post this morning
I would try to get a delegation of willing Democratic Congressional figures to go to the White House and tell Trump if he resigns the presidency, we won't prosecute you, but you and only you! If you don't agree, we are going to hold you responsible for ever illegal act you've committed. You have 48 hours to decide.
Yes, I know; Republicans always get to skate for their crimes and it has made me so angry over the years, but the man is mentally unstable, has an equally insane Secretary of Defense (won't call it war), and has the nuclear codes. All of the planet is in danger, and if the GOP won't stop it, I would at least try to see if he'd go for it.
Greg_In_SF
(1,260 posts)never resign under any circumstances.
Chipper Chat
(10,878 posts)Chasstev365
(7,827 posts)He will not have the same hold as Trump has had.
CrispyQ
(40,979 posts)And he's not "in your face" like Trump & Musk, so who knows WTF he's up to.
and a bunch of others, like Stephen Miller, Russell Vought, etc appear to be running things from the shadows, behind smoke and mirrors. Everything except Trump's personal shitstorms, and Comrade Putin's orders.......
Upthevibe
(10,187 posts)I agree 100%. JD Vance doesn't have the "qualities" of a cult leader.
wnylib
(26,073 posts)yellow dahlia
(5,966 posts)allegorical oracle
(6,487 posts)be easier to live with. Beginning to think the devil would be more reasonable than djt.
MadameButterfly
(4,049 posts)and unlike Trump, he's actually smart. He'd be just as crooked stealing the vote, but not stupid enough to ignore warnings about the Straights of Hormuz. Nor is he likely in the Epstein files, or guilty of J6 or stealing documents. Everything that might bring down Trump, JD is not implicated in. No, he has no charisma, but all they have to do is come up with a Quanon like conspiracy with him as the hero.
I still think we have to discredit the whole administration to get ourselves out of this.
yellow dahlia
(5,966 posts)Blues Heron
(8,859 posts)Is Vance a child raper too?
agingdem
(8,863 posts)they want him to die in office because graceless buffoon Vance can be intimidated and controlled... and maybe if he runs for the presidency in 2028 and wins, Republicans can retain power...and with Vance in the Oval Office, Trump's gang of venal wretches lose sway...
wnylib
(26,073 posts)BattleRow
(2,466 posts)dalton99a
(94,267 posts)The world is ruled by a crazed demented monster
wiggs
(8,817 posts)case, but courts are the very last guardrail after norms, morals and ethics, common sense, advisors, in house lawyers, congress, the interests of other countries, and fairness guardrails have all been exhausted. We shouldn't even have to go to court to defend against an unhinged, disordered executive but this is where we are.
Loopholes in laws, a vulnerable constitution, vast wealth, and complicit gop destroyed the nation's defenses against tyranny. There's one last desperate guardrail that other countries have used but which we have not...since we were a colony.
bucolic_frolic
(55,216 posts)Because it comes from Democrats. We are cooked.
Tesha
(21,143 posts)And aside from $$$ his freedom matters most
Chasstev365
(7,827 posts)thesquanderer
(13,015 posts)And really, the odds that he'd ever be prosecuted for anything aren't good to begin with.
But not impossible.
So like Tesha was saying, the only thing that could matter to him more than money and power would be keeping himself out of jail.
ashredux
(2,932 posts)crazylikafox
(2,932 posts)Thats what he would do and he assumes everyone is as evil as he is
AverageOldGuy
(3,884 posts)Congress could grant him immunity from federal crimes but what about states?
Surely some states could make the case that he illegally interfered in their elections.
debsy
(959 posts)Why would he start now when he has all this power?
Bayard
(29,763 posts)It will just make him dig in deeper. Unless, maybe a group of high-profile rethuglicans went with them--a united front. Isn't that what happened with Nixon?
OldBaldy1701E
(11,184 posts)Now, if we did that with the request that his entire regime steps down, and if they did that, we would be willing to discuss leniency, once the prosecutions begin.
But, I am NOT letting those evil bastards off the hook. None of them.
AllyCat
(18,858 posts)Grim Chieftain
(1,756 posts)Seriously, this cannot go on. Each and every day is new affront to democracy, the rule of law, and sanity.
The man is deranged and has no checks and balances, he has declared war on the world, including this country.
This has to stop - NOW.
Chasstev365
(7,827 posts)BidenRocks
(3,284 posts)Then in January the guardrails are coming back!
The end is in sight. We need to inform them we will be asking for executions for Crimes against Humanity, The Constitution and attempting the overthrow of our way of life! Treason! (The whole book!) Art. 134! Everything!
Repent! Or else!
I would cite the end of Nicolae Ceaușescu of Romania in 1989. He and his wife.
I could live with this for Chump and the bitch! I Won't Care, Will You?!
Only then can we back down from this nightmare and rebuild America.
yellow dahlia
(5,966 posts)The priority needs to be saving this Democracy...and this planet.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,531 posts)Batshit crazier than any other thing he (supposedly) posted?
SomedayKindaLove
(1,186 posts)Drop from the race and you wont be prosecuted. Would have at least saved the lives of everyone killed by Jan 6 coup attempt.
EnergizedLib
(3,056 posts)- Both are psychos.
- One is a convicted rapist, the other a convicted felon and credibly accused rapist.
- One wanted to eat Lennox Lewis children, the other has been accused of raping children.
- Both said Praise be to Allah in an unhinged rant.