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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow would you feel if you woke up tomorrow and found out JD Vance was president?
Aviation Pro
(15,597 posts)Thats what Id do.
DavidDvorkin
(20,595 posts)ForgedCrank
(3,104 posts)Vogon_Glory
(10,302 posts)Vance lacks Donald Johns charisma, but hes more intelligent. I wouldnt feel assured that things would get better.
FakeNoose
(41,708 posts)Plus he's younger so presumably his health is better.
MorbidButterflyTat
(4,533 posts)and
Vogon_Glory
(10,302 posts)But look how many Americans turned out to vote for him. It wasnt just the billionaires pouring hundreds of millions into PACs or Eloon and other Tec-bros using bots that caused the 2024tens of millions of voters apparently LIKE being lied to and arent choosy about what sort of guy they perceive as alpha males
Renew Deal
(85,192 posts)It may actually be worse.
Coolgoober
(353 posts)Like I told my wife when she said then we would be stuck with JD Vance. I said one at a time.
dem4decades
(14,106 posts)ananda
(35,194 posts)I thought there were people here who keep track
of planes.
dem4decades
(14,106 posts)Or at least that would be their excuse, they would really do it for the wow factor
Never trust Trump.
ananda
(35,194 posts)How would they keep that secret?
Deuxcents
(26,990 posts)Wicked Blue
(8,901 posts)viva la
(4,602 posts)But I remember that Ford-- a much more plausible president-- lost the election after taking over from Nixon.
You know, Richard Nixon is the one person who really benefits from Trump's presidency. Never again will we say Nixon was the worst president of all time.
BlueKota
(5,364 posts)Tsf has him beat by a mile.
Norrrm
(5,101 posts)Vogon_Glory
(10,302 posts)I still think that James Buchanan was worse than Tricky Dick.
anamnua
(1,514 posts)hlthe2b
(114,016 posts)reporting on his various "issues."
Iris
(16,880 posts)Then instantly log on all social media to laugh with others
dgauss
(1,538 posts)so that might be an improvement. He might be an odious puppet of people like Peter Thiel but at least there would be a chance that Republicans in congress might shift their idea of self interest towards a little more push back on the craziest and most destructive shit. One can hope...
mahatmakanejeeves
(69,929 posts)BlueKota
(5,364 posts)I would just hope that my psychiatrist is right about the majority of cults not transferring their allegiance to a succesor.
Emile
(42,351 posts)Economic Disaster.
ALBliberal
(3,348 posts)in many ways he is more dangerous. Younger. I think for sure smarter. But he is so uncharismatic. And I guess for the cult? Trump is charismatic.
Get the vote out. Fuck them both.
Tree Lady
(13,293 posts)Is that he can make himself sound sane, like at the debate with Gov Waltz.
The Blue Flower
(6,513 posts)drumpf minus the worship and charisma is just a bunch of crappy, destructive policies. He has even more disdain for the worshippers than djt has.
WestMichRad
(3,269 posts)Its not like there would be a noticeable improvement, but wed at least be rid of one embarrassment.
BlueNProud
(1,100 posts)JBTaurus83
(1,422 posts)Id celebrate for a few days. Then move on to deal with Vance.
NCDem47
(3,472 posts)Trumps handlers keep things quiet until they extracted every last bit before handing over to Vance.
dgauss
(1,538 posts)Palantir is probably operating that thing now.
struggle4progress
(126,226 posts)milestogo
(23,098 posts)Orrex
(67,124 posts)RandySF
(84,458 posts)Dave says
(5,428 posts)the reality of having JD Vance as Prez will slip in and Ill just pull the covers over my head and go back to sleep until 2029.
ecstatic
(35,081 posts)at least not yet, and he doesn't struggle with the series of psychiatric and mental issues that trump does (which has placed us all in untold danger over the past 15 months). jd struggles with some issues though--3 name changes as an adult, unsure of his sexuality, etc.
From my understanding, the Iran war destroyed his chances for 2028.
rsdsharp
(12,019 posts)But in a different way.
He doesnt have the hold on the base, so Congress wouldnt be as servile, and he has the charisma of wallpaper paste, so I doubt hed be electable.
On the other hand hes smart, isnt bat shit crazy, has Theils money behind him, and would be able to run as an incumbent.
irisblue
(37,541 posts)He should have campaigned in the big 5 Democratic cities in Ohio instead of sucking up to maga in NE Ohio.
Columbus, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Toledo, Dayton
regnaD kciN
(27,649 posts)
Id feel modified rapture.
Ms. Toad
(38,663 posts)Part of the motivation to vote against Trump syncophants in the midterms is to help put brakes on his worst instincts. I don't think that would be as much of a motivation if Vance were president - at least during a honeymoon period (which would last past November). I think more middle of the road voters would be inclined to give Vance a chance by not stacking the House and Senate against him.
Sun-Moon
(254 posts)And probably isnt finished with the visit just yet.
oldsoldierfadingfast
(271 posts)if Putin has him 'groomed' yet?
Marie Marie
(11,330 posts)to "Holy shit and Yahoo, Trump is dead!! Then I would pause to celebrate for however long I want to. I want to dance and sing and cheer and march in the streets to celebrate his long awaited demise. I want to savor that news like fine wine. And I want to enjoy that feeling for a long time .I need that, we all need that and we deserve that. I reserve the right to stay in that mind space for as long as it feels right.
Then and only then will I brace for Trump Lite and all the horror that brings.
Blue Full Moon
(3,505 posts)Going the way of Spiro Agnew.
samsingh
(18,428 posts)Kaleva
(40,369 posts)Vance doesnt have the following that Trump does
LudwigPastorius
(14,750 posts)I would feel like I just swapped an advanced case of rabies for terminal ass cancer.
lame54
(39,784 posts)struggle4progress
(126,226 posts)Bluetus
(2,847 posts)may understand he is young enough to spend a long time in prison if he commits crimes. Trump didn't care. He thinks he can steal elections until he dies,
Also, I don't think Republicans would be so quick to commit treason for Vance.
Lovie777
(23,028 posts)Duncan Grant
(8,924 posts)So much opportunity awaits!