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If he confesses he kidnapped her because Savannah interviewed Epstein victims and made Trump look bad, we will never ever hear about that with Kash Patel in charge of the FBI.
Krasnov has wrecked our institutions, it will take generations to recover. When the Republican party turns into the party that protects pedophiles there is no bottom to its depravity. Wishing more Congressional Democrats would speak out like Thomas Massie and Ro Khanna are, then again they would get death threats. I used to think the death threats always came from unwashed Magats but I now believe that the administration has set up a system to issue the death threats themselves, maybe Big Balls is in charge?
Scrivener7
(58,949 posts)gab13by13
(31,723 posts)something is off with this investigation.
Either the kidnapper is a moron or a genius. The guy tries to cover up the doorbell camera with flowers from the garden. If those were his black gloves they found that was a dumb move.
Then the kidnapper sends a ransom message so sophisticated it can't be traced.
Put yourself in a journalist's shoes right now, giving an interview to an Epstein victim may get you death threats. Pam Bondi got her orders from Krasnov to wrap things up, all of the Epstein files have been released, so she says.
Thomas Massie has to go public and state that if he ends up dead it will be murder.
2 people are leading the charge to get the Epstein files released; Thomas Massie and Ro Khanna.
I had a taste of death threats in my small town 45 years ago, they caused me many sleepless nights, but I got the town to have my back even when our main local newspaper wouldn't cover our group's protect our watershed meetings. People speaking out in numbers is the way to beat cowards who lurk in the dark. I ran for council and got the most votes, at my 2nd council meeting I looked our solicitor straight in the eye and told him that he needed to recuse himself when the issue of stripping coal on our watershed was discussed, his father owned the company. Every other council member hung his head and said nothing, but it made the newspaper and we ended up putting so many restrictions on the coal strippers that we saved our watershed even though the law was not on our side thanks to Dick Cheney.
I cringe when I hear debates between moderates and progressives, we need fighters, people with courage as Jason Crow just said publicly, I think he was speaking to his fellow members.
planj07
(58 posts)The kidnapping was done by the government. Nothing about it makes sense otherwise. Why did they kidnap her?
Was it meant to serve as a distraction from the files? The media has played along in a number of cases to make it a headline story above the Epstein files.
milestogo
(22,856 posts)That's a long time to wait to send a message.
gab13by13
(31,723 posts)publicly humiliated Krasnov at the correspondence dinner? Krasnov hasn't gotten over that yet, look what he just did to Obama.
milestogo
(22,856 posts)I think the idea that he is going to attack the families of journalists is a stretch. TSF tends to do things in public, not in private.
Renew Deal
(84,800 posts)I'm not convinced he saw the entire video. His response indicates he didn't. But he can't admit not seeing the entire thing and he can't admit that he did see it. Either he's careless or he's racist. We know it's both.
tintinvotes
(132 posts)A couple of days ago I read that the Sheriff refused to turn over evidence to the FBI (the glove) and had it sent to a private lab.
gab13by13
(31,723 posts)Maybe he doesn't trust the FBI's lab? That is very much out of the ordinary isn't it?
Right wing Krasnov fluffers have been attacking the sheriff for doing that, FOX even put a retired FBI agent on to call it too time consuming.
milestogo
(22,856 posts)So the FBI just throws their gloves on the ground?
tintinvotes
(132 posts)Greg_In_SF
(1,042 posts)a simple botched home invasion for $500 Alex.
gab13by13
(31,723 posts)and what did he steal?
Greg_In_SF
(1,042 posts)not know yet.
gab13by13
(31,723 posts)the ransom message is a fake? If it was intended to be a kidnapping why would the perp spend 41 minutes inside the house?
What does make sense?
milestogo
(22,856 posts)They could have left one in the home.
Greg_In_SF
(1,042 posts)highly possible that the ransom note was either an after thought, or that it didn't even come from the suspect.
I think it was a home invasion that later turned in to a kidnapping after things went south, hence the long time period spent in the house. He could have just been trying to figure out his next steps when his original plan fell through.
Jilly_in_VA
(14,145 posts)I think it's more likely that someone screwed up a an armed robbery/home invasion (they like to call it that nowadays), panicked, took her, probably killed her either on purpose or accidentally, and is now hiding out somewhere scared to death. Occam's razor.