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malaise

(294,486 posts)
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 07:35 AM Yesterday

The most not fun sentence in English for folks learning English 😀

English is a difficult language…but it can be understood through tough, thorough, thought though!😀
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The most not fun sentence in English for folks learning English 😀 (Original Post) malaise Yesterday OP
;-{)....... Goonch 23 hrs ago #1
;-{) I borrowed one of your hearts🤣 Goonch 23 hrs ago #2
Hehehehe malaise 23 hrs ago #4
Nicely played malaise 23 hrs ago #3
"Buffalo" is the name of a ruminant mammal and a city in NY state. It can also mean "to bully, obstruct". eppur_se_muova 22 hrs ago #5
ROFL malaise 22 hrs ago #6
This message was self-deleted by its author malaise 22 hrs ago #7
Some punctuation might help. :-) TheRickles 22 hrs ago #8
Ain't that the truth. n/t malthaussen 22 hrs ago #11
That's the sentence I'd like to drag my seventh-grade teacher to and say... malthaussen 22 hrs ago #9
I have coarse and fine sea salt. After skipping on the coarse I thought to myself "fine is fine". twodogsbarking 22 hrs ago #10
LOL malaise 22 hrs ago #14
Ah but goose has yet another meaning. If you get goosed more than once is it geesed? twodogsbarking 19 hrs ago #17
Love it malaise 19 hrs ago #18
Do you really want to know? Chellee 17 hrs ago #29
I always want to learn something malaise 17 hrs ago #31
You're welcome Chellee 10 hrs ago #37
That letter is silent until I sez it aint! paleotn 22 hrs ago #12
French is the worst.. Permanut 17 hrs ago #28
Perhaps learning to read English. Igel 22 hrs ago #13
Spelled "ghoti" sounds exactly like "fish." Kid Berwyn 21 hrs ago #15
Haha malaise 21 hrs ago #16
When I was living in Catalunya, it was a requirement to learn the one about the setze jutges (sixteen judges) DFW 18 hrs ago #19
Haha malaise 18 hrs ago #20
When my daughters were very little I taught them the first part of that DFW 18 hrs ago #21
Clearly not wimps malaise 18 hrs ago #22
Here is the ultimate test of all time (you have to click on "watch on youtube" ) DFW 18 hrs ago #23
LOL malaise 17 hrs ago #24
5.8 million views DFW 17 hrs ago #25
Well I know every word for this one malaise 17 hrs ago #26
These words were part of one of the very very early I Love Lucy episodes sdfernando 17 hrs ago #27
Fascinating malaise 17 hrs ago #30
Interesting video! If you'd like to know how English ended up with those spellings/pronunciations, I posted highplainsdem 17 hrs ago #32
Thanks malaise 16 hrs ago #33
You're welcome! I love the OED. Have the compact edition I bought about highplainsdem 16 hrs ago #34
Have mine right here malaise 16 hrs ago #35
Great! highplainsdem 16 hrs ago #36

eppur_se_muova

(41,444 posts)
5. "Buffalo" is the name of a ruminant mammal and a city in NY state. It can also mean "to bully, obstruct".
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 10:03 AM
22 hrs ago

So this is a perfectly grammatical, logically meaningful sentence:

Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.

Response to eppur_se_muova (Reply #5)

TheRickles

(3,250 posts)
8. Some punctuation might help. :-)
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 10:10 AM
22 hrs ago

Reminds me of "It is true for all that, that that that that that that refers to, is not the one to which I refer."

malthaussen

(18,505 posts)
9. That's the sentence I'd like to drag my seventh-grade teacher to and say...
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 10:11 AM
22 hrs ago

... "Diagram this, Lady."

-- Mal

twodogsbarking

(18,083 posts)
10. I have coarse and fine sea salt. After skipping on the coarse I thought to myself "fine is fine".
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 10:12 AM
22 hrs ago

Then I thought how messed up English can be.

twodogsbarking

(18,083 posts)
17. Ah but goose has yet another meaning. If you get goosed more than once is it geesed?
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 12:43 PM
19 hrs ago

I wish I knew Spanish.

Chellee

(2,297 posts)
29. Do you really want to know?
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 02:58 PM
17 hrs ago

I sometimes have a difficult time determining when people are asking actual questions, and when they're being funny.

If you did sincerely want to know, goose comes from Old English, and moose comes from Algonquian. It's just a coincidence that they rhyme. That's why their plurals don't follow the same rules, because they come from two vastly different languages.

paleotn

(21,900 posts)
12. That letter is silent until I sez it aint!
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 10:13 AM
22 hrs ago


Add heteronyms like lead and lead and it's a West Germanic / French / Norse mess. And we though Mandarin Chinese was tough....which it is.

Igel

(37,454 posts)
13. Perhaps learning to read English.
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 10:15 AM
22 hrs ago

I've always liked garden-path sentenced.

The horse raced around the barn fell down.

Or multiple subordinated clauses: The dog the kid the mother saw fed barked. (Lots don't like that kind of subordination--they can handle 1 layer, "The dog the kid fed barked" but lose the thread with the 2nd level.)

Once was reading something in German and I just couldn't get a sentence to cohere. Took it to a native speaker. She read it. Read the paragraph it was in. Read the sentence again. Read the sentence again. Out loud. Then again, with different pauses. Finally got it to click. It was the three verbs at the end and unpacking the structure(s) embedded before them that threw her/me/us. Formal, academic German.

(Russian can pull off some doozies, either because of the syntax that's there or the widespread variety of elliptical devices and zero-copula. English-learners also don't like things like pseudogapping, esp. if their verbal morphology involves suffixes: "They have been eating the apples more than they have the oranges" (ex. from Wiki). Last thing I read about ellipsis was Marjorie McShane's diss, but that's been more than 20 years ago.)

Kid Berwyn

(23,772 posts)
15. Spelled "ghoti" sounds exactly like "fish."
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 10:34 AM
21 hrs ago

How can "ghoti" and "fish" sound the same?

gh = f as in rouGH
o = i as in wOmen
ti = sh as in naTIon

https://www.englishclub.com/esl-articles/199909.php

DFW

(59,916 posts)
21. When my daughters were very little I taught them the first part of that
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 02:03 PM
18 hrs ago

They had no idea what it meant, but thought it sounded cool and wanted to learn it.

"Setze jutges d'un jutjat mengen fetge d'un penjat." "Sixteen judges on a court eat the liver of a hanged man."

No one ever accused the Catalans of being wimps................

DFW

(59,916 posts)
23. Here is the ultimate test of all time (you have to click on "watch on youtube" )
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 02:18 PM
18 hrs ago

It's a polka sung in the Karellian dialect of Finnish (which is already impossible).



Verse 1
Nuapurista kuulu se polokan tahti jalakani pohjii kutkutti
Ievan äiti se tyttöösä vahti vaan kyllähän Ieva sen jutkutti
Sillä ei meitä silloin kiellot haittaa
Kun myö tanssimme laiasta laitaan

Chorus:
Salivili hipput tupput täppyt äppyt tipput hilijalleen

Verse2
Ievan suu oli vehnäsellä ko immeiset onnee toevotti
Peä oli märkänä jokaisella ja viulu se vinku ja voevotti
Ei tätä poikoo märkyys haittaa
Sillon ko laskoo laiasta laitaan

(Chorus)

Verse 3
Ievan äiti se kammarissa virsiä veisata huijjuutti
Kun tämä poika naapurissa ämmän tyttöä nuijjuutti
Eikä tätä poikoo ämmät haittaa
Sillon ko laskoo laiasta laitaan

(Chorus)

Break:
Hilipati hilipati hilipati hillaa
Hilipati hilipati hilipampaa
Jalituli jallaa talituli jallaa
Tilitali tilitali tilitantaa
Hilipati hillaa hilipati hillaa
Hilipati hilipati jalituli jallaa
Tilitali tallaa, tulituli jallaa
Hilipati hilipati hilipampaa
Rimpatirillaa ripirapirullaa
Rumpatirumpa tiripirampuu
Jamparingaa rimpatiraparan
Tsupantupiran dillandu
Japat stilla dipudupu dullaa
Dumpatidupa lipans dullaa
Dipidapi dullaa rimpati rukan
Ribitit stukan dillandu
Jatsatsa barillas dilla lapadeian dullan deian doo
Joparimba badabadeia stulla
Laba daba daba dujan dillandu
Barillas dilla deiaduu badaba daga daga daga daga dujaduu
Badu dubi dubi dubi dejaduu
Badaba dillas dillan dejaduu


Verse 4
Siellä oli lystiä soiton jäläkeen sain minä kerran sytkyyttee
Kottiin ko mäntii ni ämmä se riitelj ja Ieva jo alako nyyhkyytteek
Minä sanon Ievalle mitäpä se haittaa
Laskemma vielähi laiasta laitaa

(Chorus)

Verse 5
Muorille sanon jotta tukkee suusi en ruppee sun terveyttäs takkoomaa
Terveenä peäset ku korjoot luusi ja määt siitä murjuus makkoomaa
Ei tätä poikoo hellyys haittaa
Ko akkoja huhkii laiasta laitaan

(Chorus)

Verse 6
Sen minä sanon jotta purra pittää ei mua niin voan nielasta
Suat männä ite vaikka lännestä ittään vaan minä en luovu Ievasta
Sillä ei tätä poikoo kainous haittaa
Sillon ko tanssii laiasta laitaan

(Chorus)

If it makes anyone feel better, no, I couldn't do it, either!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DFW

(59,916 posts)
25. 5.8 million views
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 02:33 PM
17 hrs ago

Of which 5.799.990 had no earthly idea what the lyrics mean, present company included!

sdfernando

(6,044 posts)
27. These words were part of one of the very very early I Love Lucy episodes
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 02:47 PM
17 hrs ago

It was before they moved to the apartment everyone knows...and Ricky was still trying to learn english. As all of their shows, it was quite funny.

malaise

(294,486 posts)
30. Fascinating
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 03:00 PM
17 hrs ago

I imagine I Love Lucy would be considered WOKE by the MAGAts today.

Thanks for this.😀

highplainsdem

(61,037 posts)
32. Interesting video! If you'd like to know how English ended up with those spellings/pronunciations, I posted
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 03:20 PM
17 hrs ago

a link to an OED page explaining it back in 2022

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10181620288#post3

but the OED reorganized its website later, as it explained here

https://www.oed.com/information/about-the-oed/oed-blog/?tl=true

which led me to this page

https://www.oed.com/discover/history-of-english

which finally led me to this

https://www.oed.com/discover/early-modern-english-spelling-grammar-and-pronunciation/

which looks a lot like what I linked to 4 years ago, when the link had been
https://public.oed.com/blog/early-modern-english-pronunciation-and-spelling

highplainsdem

(61,037 posts)
34. You're welcome! I love the OED. Have the compact edition I bought about
Sun Feb 15, 2026, 03:54 PM
16 hrs ago

40 years ago - looks like this (images found on X) -




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