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Miles Archer

(23,302 posts)
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:13 AM Dec 2025

AMAZING HOW golfing, trolling on social media, ballroom building, and raising prices equals low ratings for Trump.

The problem with America, as Trump has pointed out many times, is that people just don't appreciate him enough. Nor do they show respect for the great work being done by shadow presidents Stephen Miller and Russell Vought. Ungrateful bastards.

CNN data analyst Harry Enten was left floored Sunday after new polling showed President Donald Trump’s support among independents has plummeted to staggering lows just shy of a year into his second term.

According to the new data, Trump’s net approval rating among independent voters fell by a stunning 42 points from January to December, from -1 to -43, a drop so severe that Enten compared the president to French oceanographer and filmmaker Jacques Cousteau, known for his undersea expeditions.

“We're talking about 43 points underwater come December, that is a decline of 42 points on his net approval rating!” Enten exclaimed. “Donald Trump is hanging out with Jacques Cousteau; that is how far underwater Donald Trump is with independents at this point!”

Driving Trump’s plummeting approval ratings were two key issues: the economy and immigration. On the economy, Trump enjoyed a +9 approval when he took office in January, an approval that fell by 25 points to -16 by December. On immigration, Trump’s approval fell by 15 points in the same time period, from +9 in January to -6 by December.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-2674833098/
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AMAZING HOW golfing, trolling on social media, ballroom building, and raising prices equals low ratings for Trump. (Original Post) Miles Archer Dec 2025 OP
I doubt that anyone is "floored" by this ... or even mildly surprised FakeNoose Dec 2025 #1
Makes you wonder what world some PatSeg Dec 2025 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author COL Mustard Dec 2025 #10
The difference, I believe, is that Congress would not kowtow to the Mascara Macho. eppur_se_muova Dec 2025 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author COL Mustard Dec 2025 #21
no surprise justsomeguy01 Dec 2025 #2
It just shows you that Independents are idiots, they would be Democrats if they had a brain. dem4decades Dec 2025 #4
It's a by-product of unrelenting "whataboutism." Miles Archer Dec 2025 #6
Yes, it's really disheartening how many actually seem to believe both sides suck, and there's no real difference. ShazzieB Dec 2025 #14
if you see 'no difference' between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris stopdiggin Dec 2025 #17
The Democratic and Republican parties have both changed from what they were during depression, WWII. 60s, 80s etc ChicagoTeamster Dec 2025 #15
I was at my neighbors yesterday and Fox News was blaring as always. They were loudly travelingthrulife Dec 2025 #5
Putting that shit soul and Jacques Cousteau in the same sentence in a commentary is fucking gross. LuvLoogie Dec 2025 #7
I found it funny. And it's nice to see someone still alive remembers Jasques Cousteau. paleotn Dec 2025 #8
How about trump is hanging out with the sludge at the bottom of Bubbly Creek? LuvLoogie Dec 2025 #12
And I liked him and his stories. Why is his rankings so low? Perhaps I missed something... SWBTATTReg Dec 2025 #19
Traitor knows how to loaf. Kid Berwyn Dec 2025 #9
Nice work if you can get it, I guess COL Mustard Dec 2025 #11
Work builds a better world. Kid Berwyn Dec 2025 #13
We can only hope that this translates Old Crank Dec 2025 #16
And remember: Republicans support, defend, allow, approve, tolerate, and/or implement... Beartracks Dec 2025 #18

FakeNoose

(41,650 posts)
1. I doubt that anyone is "floored" by this ... or even mildly surprised
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:37 AM
Dec 2025

Chump is the WORST President we have ever had, EVER ... and there's still 3 years to go unless the Grim Reaper steps in.

If Harry Enten is truly surprised that Chump's ratings have cratered, then he hasn't been paying attention.

Response to FakeNoose (Reply #1)

eppur_se_muova

(41,950 posts)
20. The difference, I believe, is that Congress would not kowtow to the Mascara Macho.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 07:00 PM
Dec 2025

VDJance does not have whatever it is that Trmp has, which is a really low bar.

Remember, he was a one-term Senator only courtesy of his sugar daddy Thiel. Other Senators didn't think much of him, and know what all his weaknesses are. And every one of them knows he won't be around for long, so no lasting harm in bucking his policies, whatever they are this week. He can't throw his weight around because he doesn't have any.

On the campaign trail, he showed all the charisma of a moldering sponge, so don't expect a big wave of support, but rather a big wave of staying home on Election Day.

Response to eppur_se_muova (Reply #20)

justsomeguy01

(48 posts)
2. no surprise
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:49 AM
Dec 2025

I am always amazed at how partisan Reps & Dems forget that more than 1/3 of voters are registered as Independent/UAF. Sure, most of them are reliable R or D voters, but many still have the ability to not see things thru a partisan lens.

Miles Archer

(23,302 posts)
6. It's a by-product of unrelenting "whataboutism."
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:37 AM
Dec 2025

Every time Republicans get caught with their hand in the cookie jar, it's "Well, (fill in Democrat's name here) did (fill in a conspiracy theory), and that's worse!"

And, the easily fooled and intellectually incurious members of the general public take it all in and decide they have to be just as wary of Democrats as they are of Republicans.

ShazzieB

(22,598 posts)
14. Yes, it's really disheartening how many actually seem to believe both sides suck, and there's no real difference.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 12:59 PM
Dec 2025

I think that's why a lot of people don't bother to vote. They don't see that who wins an election would make any real difference.

I know this mindset is baffling to those of us who know what a huge difference there really is, but we do ourselves and our candidates a disservice when we let ourselves lose sight of it.

stopdiggin

(15,464 posts)
17. if you see 'no difference' between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:00 PM
Dec 2025

Then you are more than just disinterested or misinformed - you're truly delusional. A candidate for heavy medication.

I hear a lot of this too - and it really, really grinds my gears.

"Listen, chump! That ain't even marginally plausible - and you know it!"

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ChicagoTeamster

(964 posts)
15. The Democratic and Republican parties have both changed from what they were during depression, WWII. 60s, 80s etc
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 01:09 PM
Dec 2025

And, this country is vastly different culturally when you travel from the NorthEast to the South, to the Midwest, SouthWest, West Coast or NorthWest. There will always be people who feel no connection to either party until they feel they need to oppose a Trump, or a Bush, or some people didn't like the Clintons even though only Bill was president.

Also, some people are issue voters not party voters. They'll vote for local politicians and ballot referendums that support what they like or oppose what they don't like and skip the presidential choices almost every time they vote.

And, then there's the people that almost never voted until they had a Bernie Sanders or a Trump to vote for in the hopes of stirring things up.

Last but not least are the people who don't vote because they have always believed that the ballots aren't even counted and that the whole thing is a show put on by the people who really run the country who have already decided among themselves who the President was going to be.

I was an election judge for years and when I would try to register people to vote or get signatures to put a candidate or issue on the ballot I heard all kinds of crazy theories. And the internet and social media have only made the situation worse.

travelingthrulife

(5,192 posts)
5. I was at my neighbors yesterday and Fox News was blaring as always. They were loudly
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:25 AM
Dec 2025

assuring their viewers that Trump's job satisfaction was beginning to soar because of some masterful Christmas speech.

LuvLoogie

(8,815 posts)
7. Putting that shit soul and Jacques Cousteau in the same sentence in a commentary is fucking gross.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:47 AM
Dec 2025

Peak America.

paleotn

(22,219 posts)
8. I found it funny. And it's nice to see someone still alive remembers Jasques Cousteau.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 12:08 PM
Dec 2025

LuvLoogie

(8,815 posts)
12. How about trump is hanging out with the sludge at the bottom of Bubbly Creek?
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 12:17 PM
Dec 2025

--Bubbly Creek is the nickname for the South Fork of the South Branch of the Chicago River, notorious for bubbling due to gases from centuries of meatpacking waste dumped by the nearby Union Stockyards; though still polluted and a former environmental disaster, it's seeing restoration efforts with wildlife returning and community projects, becoming a symbol of urban resilience between Chicago's Bridgeport and McKinley Park neighborhoods.

History & The "Bubbles"
Origin of Name: The creek earned its name from the methane and carbonic gases bubbling up from decomposing blood, entrails, and other organic waste from the Union Stockyards (1860s-1970s).

Pollution: The sludge was so thick, it formed solid cakes that people and animals could walk on, and the gases sometimes caught fire, leading to explosions, reports Chicago Tonight - PBS and Simple English Wikipedia.

River Reversal: To protect Lake Michigan, the Chicago River's flow was reversed, but the creek remained heavily polluted.

SWBTATTReg

(26,260 posts)
19. And I liked him and his stories. Why is his rankings so low? Perhaps I missed something...
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 05:57 PM
Dec 2025

COL Mustard

(8,226 posts)
11. Nice work if you can get it, I guess
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 12:17 PM
Dec 2025

Personally, I'd rather be the working stiff that I am.

Kid Berwyn

(24,420 posts)
13. Work builds a better world.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 12:48 PM
Dec 2025
On Juneteenth, President Trump says America has "too many non-working holidays"



"It is costing our Country $BILLIONS OF DOLLARS to keep all of these businesses closed. The workers don't want it either! Soon we'll end up having a holiday for every … working day of the year," Mr. Trump wrote. "It must change if we are going to, MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/juneteenth-trump-too-many-non-working-holidays/

So amazingly stupid that he can't even see his own profound stupidity. And even if he could spell it, he will never even consider the hypocrisy.

Traitor has no clue that by his actions -- and inactions -- he will be judged and not just by history.

Old Crank

(7,091 posts)
16. We can only hope that this translates
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 01:54 PM
Dec 2025

to the GOP getting blasted in teh House and some GOP senators also.
Epstein and the economy every time we are asked. Ask sitting house and Senators why they support a rapist. Why they voted to strip healthcare.

Beartracks

(14,605 posts)
18. And remember: Republicans support, defend, allow, approve, tolerate, and/or implement...
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:09 PM
Dec 2025

... everything Trump does.

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