DC shooting is proof you can't stop a shooting.

[Cattledog]

That area has more armed law enforcement per sq. foot than any place in America.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

1. It was once told to me that anyone can be gotten to if the assailant is willing to die. nt

[Hellbound Hellhound]

3. Exactly. Often the only thing separating ANY figure from being murdered is an unwillingness to die by the assailant. n/t

[Silent Type]

2. trump will just say it wasn't enough. A lot will depend on suspect's motive, whether real or made up.

[Initech]

4. I will never understand MAGA's police and military fetish.

It's insane.

[LymphocyteLover]

17. it's the fascist, bully mentality .. they are cowards at heart

[ms liberty]

20. Old Testament values of strong father/leaders who rule with harsh punishment and an iron fist

That's my guess.

[nitpicked]

5. IMO, the only way to prevent a shooting in one location

Is to surround that location with ultra-tight security ((think security for Inaugurations)).

But then the gunman might choose to shoot up somewhere else.

[IronLionZion]

6. People have shot at the White House from that area several times over the years

Shootings can happen very fast. They can do plenty of damage before LE can stop it.

[twodogsbarking]

7. It won't change unless the will to change is there. It is a hope but a long shot.

[Warpy]

8. Over the years, i've known far too many people who were shot

with the guns they kept for protection. They were shot by bad guys who broke in and stole them, by angry family members who know where to find them, and saddest of all, by themselves.

Someone a long time ago gave me some very sage advice after he'd taught me how to fight really dirty: "Don't get a gun. First, people are never afraid of getting shot. They're very afraid of getting cut, so if you need to carry any kind of weapon, make it a knife. Second, carrying a gun makes you over confident to the point you stop being as aware of your surroundings as you should be. Third, anyone who manages to surprise you will take that gun away from you and probably use your own gun to shoot you." I'd add that guns, like gold, are thief magnets. I've never carried a gun or had one in my home. I've never felt like I had to.

[KS Toronado]

11. Good advise

[paleotn]

9. In a nation awash in a sea of firearms? Absolutely not.

Welcome to real police work, Nat Guard guys. Wanted to or were forced to play cop? Sometimes that means getting shot and perhaps killed. Usually without nearly as much media air time as this particular shooting is getting.

[liberalgunwilltravel]

10. False flag?

I wouldn’t put it past the fascist regime.

[Aristus]

12. I was thinking the same thing.

n/t

[popsdenver]

14. Me to

like past right wing shooters in the past/??????????

[Anxy]

16. What would be the point of a false flag? This makes Trump look bad.

First, the National Guard was supposed to stop crime and didn’t. Second, these young men were shot because Trump forced them to do police work instead of doing what they do.

What would Trump gain by doing this? Would he scream that he needs to send the National Guard to DC? They’re already there and they’re being shot.

[Igel]

18. If it's 'false flag' then

it obviously can't be 'one of us'.

You know, all that 'war' and dehumanizing/resistance language directed at ICE and the fascists?

NBC reports "Afghan national" according to couple of non-US anglophone sources.

[Wounded Bear]

23. The point of a "false flag" is to give trump a reason to escalate the situation...

Sounds like he's planning to send in 500 more troops from what I've heard.

Convince a MAGA to take one for the team, and bingo! trump has an excuse to call Martial Law.

[Skittles]

27. the soldier who died was a gal

and I don't buy the false flag stuff either

[Bavorskoami]

21. Right-Wing Accelerationism?

I would be skeptical of a regime linked false flag operation, but I can readily imagine militant extremists doing something like this to "accelerate" chaos and resulting possible violent crack down - like members of the Boogaloo movement who advocate inciting a race war.

[liberalgunwilltravel]

25. It looks unlikely

To be a false flag now. More like an American ally that felt betrayed. And with the CIA background who knows what the back story is.

[NoRethugFriends]

29. Jesus. Not everything is a conspiracy, though you wouldn't know it by reading DU

[COL Mustard]

13. Good guys with guns....

Couldn't stop a bad guy with a gun, apparently.

I am sending good vibes and thoughts to the troops who were shot and their families. They do not deserve this.

[popsdenver]

15. Agreed

once again.............ALL Lives Matter..........

[Zelda_Orchid]

19. Trump created the climate which allowed this attack to take place.

[RockRaven]

26. He literally created the circumstances. The NG wouldn't have been there but for him

forcing them to be.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

22. Trump doesn't seem to grasp that deescalation is often part of law enforcement.

[Wounded Bear]

24. trump doesn't de-escalate...

He hits back with more force.

Remember?

He has a gas pedal, no brakes.

[Srkdqltr]

28. The only way to stop it is for the troops to frisk everyone and take away all guns.

And, that's not going to happen ever.

Although, that is an interesting idea.