I cannot explain it, but I found the joint appearance disturbing

[question everything]

He is sitting at his desk - OK, we know that he cannot stand for long time - but his guest is standing next to him almost in a subservient position.

Why couldn’t both of them sit, perhaps at a different room the way it was with the Saudi, or even when they ganged on Zelenskyy? I think that he had other visitors - I cannot recall now - where both were side by side answering questions. Or is that “honor” reserved only to heads of states not to a “mere” mayor?

Again, I just found it incongruent, cannot explain..

[sinkingfeeling]

1. What joint appearance?

[question everything]

2. The occupant of the White House and the newly elected mayor

[RandomNumbers]

3. TSF and Mamdani.

[leftstreet]

4. Or, it's what they were both comfortable with

Although Mamdani looked like a caregiver in an assisted living facility

[electron_blue]

5. agreed. was def weird that Trump wouldn't stand.

I think Trump is the one who looked subservient, having to crane to look up at him. If Trump couldn't stand for some reason, they should have had Mamdani also sit.

[Diamond_Dog]

6. Weak Trump probably can't stand up more than a few minutes.

I notice in almost all his recent Oval Office appearances he is sitting down.Edema in the legs and ankles makes standing painful and difficult. Sometimes causes loss of balance ……

[badhair77]

7. I saw Mamdani looking down on him and trump looking up at Mamdani.

Mamdani was free and moving about while trump was planted in his spot. trump looks weak, not authoritative.

Plus their good chemistry seems to have thrown the cult off balance. So for now I’m seeing that as a good thing.

[vanlassie]

9. As a rule the stander is considered the more powerful.

Mamdani was playing 3D chess, standing close enough so the pres could keep patting his arm and hand 🤮

[badhair77]

14. True.

[nini]

8. Why he even legitimized that fascist in the first place is beyond me

I was not impressed with that choice one bit.

[Nixie]

11. This a million times. Especially after he ran against an "establishment"

Democrat attacking him for his own manufactured claims that the Dem/Independent was working with Trump. WTF.

[MorbidButterflyTat]

17. Yes, I remember the uproar here about that.

Maybe okay for "new blood"?

[obamanut2012]

23. Cuomo was talking and working with Trump, though

That was not manufactured. Cuomo himself said it.

The Mayor-Elect meeting with rhe President is perfectly legitimate to do. What Ciluomo did was not. Cuomo also wss not the Democratic candidate

[Nixie]

28. Trump endorsed Cuomo, which Cuomo rejected. Cuomo

stated to the media that Trump’s endorsement was really against Momdani not in favor of Cuomo. It was Momdani who used Trump against Cuomo because Trump endorsed him.

BTW, repeating facts of the election timeline is not supporting Cuomo as is another accusation here.

Going after Republican voters seems to be a universal interest. Bernie sanders has been on the Joe Rogan show to talk to the young republican manosphere and everyone thinks that’s brilliant.

[Arazi]

15. Traitor vowed to unleash federal mayhem against NYC if Mamdani was elected

His trip has forestalled that.

For now.

I take Traitor backing off as a win for the Mayor elect

[nini]

19. I won't hold my breath on that.

Believing anything regarding trump backing off to a Dem is far fetched. He thrives off the drama and pain of others. Even if his dementia allowed him to play nice his handlers will never let that happen

[Arazi]

20. I doubt Mamdani thinks this detente holds

He made a public stand though and imo, I think it was a solid move on the chessboard.

This will go to court when the ICE/National Guard goon squads descend on NY.

Thursday is the red letter day now with hard stats on NYC crime rates where Traitor agreed Mamdani and Hochul have kept things under control, and Traitor/DOJ can’t point to “escalating crime” or “riots” or “insurrection” to send in the goons.

This has been how Portland and Chicago have been winning (so far) against their own illegal occupations. The DOJ has had to point to specific violence and “insurrection” activities on specific timelines to (try to) justify their invasion. The states have effectively used these bogus manufactured dates to illustrate that Traitor has no basis for his claims. There’s literally no evidence of “extra” violence or escalation except what the goons have provoked (why it’s been important for citizens to document any skirmishes).

I believe that’s why Mamdani went. To set a date on the record where even Traitor had to acknowledge NY and NYC do not need feds.

[nini]

26. Court cases just move ICE around for a bit

They don't care about court cases overall since they know ultimately they have the DOJ backing them up enough to keep going. The whole system is rigged right now to help.

They're still here in the LA area going after folks and not giving a damn if it's legit or not.

[Arazi]

30. The Portland and Chicago federal cases restraining the National Guard is what I'm referencing

That ICE/DHS continue their terror is just a fact we have atm. Of course it’s crap but people are fighting back - on the streets and in court.

There’s a federal case moving in Chicago about ICE First Amendment abuses towards protesters and journalists. Along with the rampant and illegal detention of US citizens.

Plus Chicago has a third case going about the inhumane federal detention centers (Broadview specifically) and the lack of congressional oversight.

You can dismiss these but there is movement. Activists are activated on every level, fighting back. SCOTUS will fuck things up on some/many/all of these fronts but there will be a record of the illegality for history or future Nuremberg type trials.

Mamdani put NYC’s chips on the table and again, I think it was a smart move.

[nini]

35. I'm not dismissing any fighting back etc.

I just don’t agree the stunt with trump is going to pay off like some think it will.

[Arazi]

36. Fair enough

Like I said, I too doubt any detente will last.

I think this move is more about getting Traitor on the record that he feels NY and NYC are handling things fine atm, for the inevitable court case ahead.

I’d almost speculate that Hochul and Mamdani coordinated this but I’m guessing she’s staying in the shadows during this transition.

Time will tell

[MorbidButterflyTat]

16. Neither was I

[H2O Man]

10. It's almost like

NYC needs a federal funding to run the city.

[Nixie]

12. The whole thing was very trippy. Wow.

[Fiendish Thingy]

13. I thought Trump looked weak and old, Mamdani, focused and in charge. Nt

[hlthe2b]

18. Actually, him sitting and Mamdani standing--towering over him--was the power position.

Not intentionally by Trump et al, but because he can't stand without his cankles and other issues being obvious, the default was to let him tower over him and assume a visual power position.

[question everything]

21. This is why I cannot explain this. When individuals present a conclusion they stand or sit

next to each other. Whether it is business, or art, or foreign relations. We never see one is sitting and the other standing. In his first year in office he had the Kardashian(s?) and her husband and a friend and the friend’s mother all sitting around his desk.

This was bizarre earlier this year when Musk was standing there delivering his ideas (and his spawn picking his nose)..

Again, strange.

[betsuni]

22. Mamdani's photo with FDR portrait, talking to Trump about New Deal.

My nutty conspiracy theory: Trump was all like, FDR? Okay, I'll show you who's the FDR, and sat at the desk like he couldn't stand up.

He was having a very good day health wise so there's a chance he actually remembered who FDR was.

[Blumancru]

24. Trump sees his polling numbers cratering

And met with Mamdani to get a little winner dust sprinkled on him. At least that’s my take.

[Iggo]

25. Sitting is the power position if the other person is in front of you, facing you.

But this was a side-by-side photo op. Trump had to turn around to look up at a smiling and relaxed Mamdani.

One looked awkward and one looked effortless.

That’s what I saw.

[CrispyQ]

27. He's done it before.

Also, I didn't see any backup players, like Vance or Rubio, probably cuz Don assumed Mamdani would kiss the ring or that he, Trump, would humiliate Mamdani in front of the press. Mamdani played it perfectly, & like someone online pointed out, right now he's the most popular person in the room & Trump loves hanging with popular people.

[NoRethugFriends]

29. I think you can't explain it because it didn't look subservient.

[Sneederbunk]

31. This is what happens when TSF is over-medicated.

[lapucelle]

32. Within hours of the meeting, Trump announced the end of almost 35 years of protected status

for Somalis in Minnesota, a largely Muslim community.

So much for the detente.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-he-is-ending-temporary-deportation-protections-somalis-minnesota-2025-11-22/

[Iggo]

33. He was gonna do that anyway. Don't blame Mamdani.

A whole bunch of democrats didn’t stop trump from doing that, including you and me.

[lapucelle]

34. Don't presume to speak for me or assume what I did or did not know or do.

Besides you, what "whole bunch of Democrats " knew that "Trump was going to do that anyway" and didn't try to stop him?

- Tim Walz?
- Amy Klobochar?
- Tina Smith?
- Keith Ellison?
- Ilhan Omar?