The United States will NEVER be forgiven if Trump abandons Ukraine.

[Chasstev365]

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The world turned upside down:

A blackmailed US president aiding Russia in aggressively taking land in Europe. If I wrote this as a novel 20 years ago, I would have been laughted at, yet here we are.

Also, if Putin had Epstein dirty (as I suspect l) on most other men, they would have resigned, but not Donald Fucking Trump.

[BeerBarrelPolka]

1. We will never be respected and trusted again

and not just because of Trump/Ukraine. But because our citizens voted him in and rabidly support him. Once Trump is gone, they (his supporters) will vote for someone just like him again. Who could ever trust us?

[Biophilic]

2. Nor should it be forgiven if it abandons Ukraine.

[dem4decades]

3. Hasn't he sold out our allies already? We're not trusted now, nor should we be.

[ChicagoTeamster]

4. He already sold out the Kurds in Syria and the Afghan people. He's selling out Europe with tariffs and NATO abandonment.

He'll sell out anybody.

[Iggo]

5. Like we abandoned the Kurds?

[Woodwizard]

6. Trump has shown our weakness.

We can not be trusted if every four years everything can be tossed in the trash.

It is not just Ukraine, the climate treaties no matter how flawed we are pulling out of and the orange menace calls climate change a hoax. The system is broken.

We are not exceptional, a vast amount of Americans are morons.

[IronLionZion]

7. Mark Epstein seems to know what Putin has

At this point, I want them to release and expose everything.

[TheBlackAdder]

8. I thought Ukraine ceded mineral right to Trump for assurances of protection.

[MLWR]

10. TACO's word on anything is totally, completely and absolutely worthless.

He doesn't honor handshakes or written contracts.

[dlk]

9. Nor should we

Only an asset of Putin would consider abandoning Ukraine.

[Bayard]

11. I hope the rest of the world realizes,

That this president does not speak, or act, for most of this country. We are also being held hostage.

[djacq]

12. Vintage 2019....

Trump is responsible. He betrayed the Kurds. Children have died . People have been displaced. All these people in these tents, it's Trump's fault. He took the decision. He sold out the Kurds.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/trump-betrayed-us-fleeing-kurds-condemn-u-s-decision-to-leave-syria

Key reason why James Matttis resigned;
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/james-mattis-on-why-he-left-the-trump-administration-but-wont-criticize-it#:~:text=Judy%20Woodruff:,James%20Mattis:

[Gum Logger]

13. Grump is cozy with an oriental despot

We are doomed