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applegrove

(129,387 posts)
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 09:59 AM Saturday

Harry Truman: socialism is what they called .....

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Socialism is what they called public power.

Socialism is what they called social security.

Socialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations.

Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.

—Harry Truman, 1952

Robert Reich (@rbreich.bsky.social) 2025-11-21T17:15:27.760624Z
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Harry Truman: socialism is what they called ..... (Original Post) applegrove Saturday OP
Of course. That's why Rethugs hate it. Diamond_Dog Saturday #1
Magats are so stupid they don't even know "nazi" means national socialist. GreenWave Saturday #23
Yeah, but don't tell them. soldierant Saturday #24
Authoritarianism is compatible with socialism. summer_in_TX Yesterday #25
Of course they are compatible soldierant Yesterday #28
DURec leftstreet Saturday #2
"Government ... for the people" equals evil socialism hvn_nbr_2 Saturday #3
He wasn't filthy rich, or filthy, or rich. twodogsbarking Saturday #4
Shared on FB. Martin68 Saturday #5
Truman was the man mountain grammy Saturday #6
Desegregating the armed forces markodochartaigh Saturday #14
I wish the Democrats would be more like Truman. Instead of like the billionaires. Autumn Saturday #7
Deserves to be an OP then maybe someone will pick it up and make a meme of it and put it on Blue Sky. applegrove Saturday #15
MAGAs to stupid and racist to understand that. BradBo Saturday #8
Ironic that ... BurnDoubt Saturday #9
Socialism is an economic system, not a political philosophy. Most Americans are confused over that. Lanius Saturday #13
Harry! Harry! Harry! (I named my cat after him.) On unexpectedly great man who rose to the occasion! NNadir Saturday #10
Conservatism is selfishness. Hotler Saturday #11
"The modern conservative... Wednesdays Saturday #16
Also from Prof. Galbraith (my favorite economist): lastlib Saturday #22
Think of the main word in 'Socialism' Mr.Bee Saturday #12
It's Red Queen territory... Wounded Bear Saturday #17
knr UTUSN Saturday #18
Just my humble opinion..but..I thought BattleRow Saturday #19
oh but.... Quanto Magnus Saturday #21
I always thought Jesus Christ was the original exemplar of someone who work for the common good. summer_in_TX Yesterday #26
Wealthy/banks/auto companies getting bailed out Quanto Magnus Saturday #20
Give 'em hell, Harry! Rhiagel Yesterday #27

GreenWave

(12,052 posts)
23. Magats are so stupid they don't even know "nazi" means national socialist.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 09:05 PM
Saturday

It was added to make their party popular with the people back then.

soldierant

(9,165 posts)
24. Yeah, but don't tell them.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 10:59 PM
Saturday

They'll believe that authoritarianism is socialism, when in fact authoritarianism and socialism are not even in the same continuum.
https://www.politicalcompass.org

summer_in_TX

(3,946 posts)
25. Authoritarianism is compatible with socialism.
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 01:05 AM
Yesterday

Hugo Chavez and Nicolás Maduro both are / were authoritarians.

It's also compatible with capitalism as well as communism.

Same with the concept of a public good or commonwealth, which are also called a concern for the social welfare, a concept baked into American thought from the very earliest days. It's compatible with any monetary theory, and co-existed for all this time with capitalism, but is related to socialism and communism in some ways also.

BUT, it has never been linked with authoritarianism as far as I know. (Admittedly I haven't studied the topic.)

I wish, how I wish, democratic socialists would realize what they really mean is best described by a concern for the public good, the commonwealth.

Their persistence with the word socialism is sheer denialism. They think they can change people's minds. Nope. Socialism, while it can be used in positive ways, has also historically been used by very repressive regimes.

soldierant

(9,165 posts)
28. Of course they are compatible
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 04:42 PM
Yesterday

What they are noy is linked inevitably. That's the point of the link. Most people have no idea.

hvn_nbr_2

(6,740 posts)
3. "Government ... for the people" equals evil socialism
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 11:12 AM
Saturday

Anything that government does for the people is evil socialism to these nuts because, in their view, the purpose of government is to give money and power to the rich.

They actually despise the idea of "government for the people."

mountain grammy

(28,473 posts)
6. Truman was the man
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 11:38 AM
Saturday

Executive Order 9981!

Probably the most important executive order since the Emancipation Proclamation.

markodochartaigh

(4,689 posts)
14. Desegregating the armed forces
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 01:01 PM
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was certainly a major push for equality, not only in government action, but in the minds of the general population.

Autumn

(48,687 posts)
7. I wish the Democrats would be more like Truman. Instead of like the billionaires.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 11:41 AM
Saturday

Now it's Socialism for the rich and Capitalism for the poor.

applegrove

(129,387 posts)
15. Deserves to be an OP then maybe someone will pick it up and make a meme of it and put it on Blue Sky.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 03:09 PM
Saturday

BurnDoubt

(1,266 posts)
9. Ironic that ...
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 11:47 AM
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They condemn Socialism because we associate it with overbearing repressive regimes imposing their policies of the point of a sword and targeting and harassing vulnerable groups. For those not paying attention, it should be noted that we're already heading that way under the MAGA JACKBOOT.
Poo Tee Weet.

Lanius

(642 posts)
13. Socialism is an economic system, not a political philosophy. Most Americans are confused over that.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 12:58 PM
Saturday

NNadir

(36,984 posts)
10. Harry! Harry! Harry! (I named my cat after him.) On unexpectedly great man who rose to the occasion!
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 12:19 PM
Saturday

Wednesdays

(21,423 posts)
16. "The modern conservative...
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 05:05 PM
Saturday

...is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness".

-- John Kenneth Galbraith

lastlib

(27,219 posts)
22. Also from Prof. Galbraith (my favorite economist):
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 08:35 PM
Saturday

"Liberals sometimes do the wrong thing for the right reason. Conservatives do the wrong thing for no reason at all."

Two of the best books I ever read: The Affluent Society and The New Industrial State. Profound works of erudition.

summer_in_TX

(3,946 posts)
26. I always thought Jesus Christ was the original exemplar of someone who work for the common good.
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 01:12 AM
Yesterday

Not identical to the economic system of socialism.

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