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Jilly_in_VA

(13,353 posts)
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 04:21 PM Friday

Hell for Putin as Russians Finally Dare to Confront Him

Fear has been the invisible force holding President Putin’s Russia together for more than two decades. It kept ordinary citizens quiet, journalists self-censoring, and officials loyal. But the spell that once protected Putin is beginning to break.

Outside the Kremlin, a long, ragged line formed. Men in waterproof jackets clutched folders of complaints; pensioners leaned on canes; mothers pushed strollers toward the gate marked “Reception of the President of the Russian Federation.” The benches overflowed with petitions. Then a woman snapped.

“We’re sick of seeing them fill rooms with cash!” she shouted. “Who even chose these deputies? We never voted for them! Putin is feeding an army of men to solve our problems—but nothing changes!”

Her outburst drew applause from the crowd. Within sight of the Kremlin walls, ordinary Russians were accusing Putin’s men of theft and betrayal out loud. The scene captured on camera on Sept. 27 was a street protest, the kind that gets punished with time behind bars in Russia.

But despite years of horrific repression, ordinary Russians continue to speak out. The Nobel Prize–winning human-rights group Memorial counts more than 1,100 political prisoners in Russia. Dissenters have been jailed, tortured, exiled, or killed. Yet even under that pressure, frustration is bubbling to the surface: Russians carry their anger to Putin’s doorstep.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/putins-system-begins-to-collapse-as-russians-finally-dare-to-confront-him/

Is this 1905 again, or is it 1917? There's a war going on, so it could be either.... History repeats itself.

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kerry-is-my-prez

(10,174 posts)
4. However, once Trump croaks or is driven out of power, he would be declared a war criminal and sent to The Hague.
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 04:33 PM
Friday

More likely, he will go to a country run by dictators who will protect him.

Jilly_in_VA

(13,353 posts)
6. Remember, the Tsar didn't get a chance to flee
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 06:16 PM
Friday

(something I will never forgive George V for). He and family were rounded up and sent to Yekaterinburg and eventually murdered. Putin would likely not make it that far. He would most likely be executed or thrown down some stairs or out a window.

Igel

(37,178 posts)
8. Sure he did. Months to pack up and get out. He assumed abdication of all claims would make him just another nobleman.
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 08:40 PM
Friday

Then the Revolution happened and the Bolsheviks overthrew Kerensky's government and the elected Duma, then went after the ex-tsar just in case he had ideas (and because they seriously hated him, out of power or not)--and wiped out his family, just in case they decided to have pretensions to reclaim the throne.

For Bolsheviks and their true-believer followers, there can be but one source of authority and power, and them's it. Challengers must bend the knee or lose their heads ... Or, to play it safe, both. In no particular order.

Jilly_in_VA

(13,353 posts)
10. I don't think you know your Russian history very well
Sat Oct 25, 2025, 11:21 AM
Saturday

or the history of the times either. WWI was still raging across Europe and there was really no country which was willing to take him and his family in. Even France, whic was later home to many an exile Russian aristocrat, would probably not have been hospitable to Nichols during the war. Bresides which, the Revolution was not a seamless thing. Perhaps they thought Kerensky would win the day. And the Revolution itself wasn't over until at least 1922. Pockets of "White" resistance fought on even after that in Siberia and other places. But most importantly, the family simply had noplace to go. Even the mostly neutral Scandinavian countries, whose monarchs were related to either Nicholas or Alexandra or both or them, demurred...but they were dangerous anyway, being so close to Russia.

rampartd

(2,757 posts)
2. putin belongs upside down hanging from a rope.
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 04:26 PM
Friday

with all of his friends, foreign and domestic/.

Fiendish Thingy

(21,193 posts)
5. And that is the critical difference between Putin's Russia and Trump's America
Fri Oct 24, 2025, 05:16 PM
Friday

Americans aren’t afraid of Trump, they just despise him.

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