Question, do the health care subsidies go directly to insurance companies?

[Aviation Pro]

I think they do, but I don’t know. And of course, Americans on the ACA will have to shoulder that responsibility should the child rapist enablers fail to come to the table.

[Intractable]

1. My current ACA plan is about $1200 /month.

About $1000 of it is paid by the gov't.

The rest by me, and there are plenty of copays, deductibles, and things not covered.

The ACA mainlines money to the insurance companies.

Health insurance is not the same as healthcare.

[GoodRaisin]

3. I had to use an ACA plan between the age of 61 and 65

At one point I recall my plan being 1400/mo. I paid $17 a month, the government picked up the rest. There will be a shock wave once people see the new costs.

[AZJonnie]

2. Yes, it's basically the same "free-market solution" as RomneyCare was before it

The main tenets of it came directly from right-wing think tanks ... offhand I want to say most of came from an outfit called "Choice Point", maybe? Going from memory on that one but I know it was a right-wing think tank that came up with the basic tenets of how a "universal health insurance system" could operate and still pass muster with "free-market conservative values"

It was done this way because the GQP had a big hand in the drafting of the legislation, they basically insisted this was the only sort of system they'd buy into and give their imprimatur to (which Obama felt was important if it was going to succeed). They would NOT however go along with any sort of "public option" which is why that idea died on the vine during the drafting of the new system.

They GQP absolutely had their say on the whole thing, then in the end when it came time to vote turned around and fucked Obama and congressional Dems by voting against it en masse and calling it a "government takeover of healthcare" and claimed publicly it was all created without their input. Which as I say is fucking bullshit. The insurance companies also were totally down for it because as you note, it's a windfall for them.

This is also why the GQP is constantly failing to come up with a "better plan" cause it was largely THEIR FUCKING PLAN in the first place, and they've been gaslighting about it for 15 fucking years like the fucking assholes they are.

[JCMach1]

4. It's really simple, probably 90% of ACA recipients wony

Be able. To afford the insurance without the subsidies.

It would essentially kill the ACA and a a lot of people who can no longer afford care.