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choie

(6,266 posts)
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 12:13 AM Oct 23

Can someone please explain to me

Why 13 Democrats senators voted for a trump nominated judge? Apparently this judge said that the characterization of what happened on January 6th is subject to political debate. Have the Democrats not !learned a fucking thing??

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Can someone please explain to me (Original Post) choie Oct 23 OP
I'm curious too. markodochartaigh Oct 23 #1
But there's no such thing choie Oct 23 #2
Sorry, I've got nothing fujiyamasan Oct 23 #3
No, they haven't. They don't want to. For all that some are speaking out now, they'll soon turn tail. mucholderthandirt Oct 23 #4
Trying to act like things are "normal" when they are NOT is a LOSER vote! Jack Valentino Oct 23 #5
The thirteen: Buns_of_Fire Oct 23 #6
George Carlin - THE BIG CLUB Emile Oct 23 #7

markodochartaigh

(4,543 posts)
1. I'm curious too.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 12:29 AM
Oct 23

Was the judge bound to be confirmed anyway and the Democratic senators were trading for political capital?

choie

(6,266 posts)
2. But there's no such thing
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 03:47 AM
Oct 23

As political capital with the thug party. No amount of appeasement will work with them.

fujiyamasan

(827 posts)
3. Sorry, I've got nothing
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 04:59 AM
Oct 23

If the leadership thinks this builds confidence with American voters it does not. Most voters won’t know or care.

But it demoralizes the base leading to less donations and potentially fewer votes.

Either way it’s a loser, both morally and politically.

mucholderthandirt

(1,704 posts)
4. No, they haven't. They don't want to. For all that some are speaking out now, they'll soon turn tail.
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 05:02 AM
Oct 23

These are rich people, remember. They are not us. If it's to their benefit to do whatever Trump wants, they will. They're only looking towards their reelection at the moment, so they say what they have to to get our votes. Then they'll be doing the Trump Suck just like the rest of them.

Frankly, I don't trust these people right now. I've seen them do stupid things, stay silent, tell us it's not our time, throw gays under the bus, throw women under the bus, throw children under the bus. We are nothing to them, anymore than the MAGA idiots mean anything to the Republicans other than when it's time to vote.

Until we show them different. The people of Portland learned this. The people of Chicago are learning this. Until we stand up and tell them we won't accept their spineless behavior, nothing will change.

Jack Valentino

(3,829 posts)
5. Trying to act like things are "normal" when they are NOT is a LOSER vote!
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 05:35 AM
Oct 23

Better to vote 'present' or just not vote at all, than to vote
in favor of ANY more Trump appointments!

We've see enough to know their likely 'quality'......


Buns_of_Fire

(18,879 posts)
6. The thirteen:
Thu Oct 23, 2025, 05:57 AM
Oct 23
The Democrats that voted in favor include:

* Senators Chris Coons (Delaware)
* Dick Durbin (Illinois)
* John Fetterman (Pennsylvania)
* Maggie Hassan (New Hampshire)
* Martin Heinrich (New Mexico)
* Tim Kaine (Virginia)
* Mark Kelly (Arizona)
* Amy Klobuchar (Minnesota)
* Jack Reed (Rhode Island)
* Adam Schiff (California)
* Jeanne Shaheen (New Hampshire)
* Peter Welch (Vermont)
* Sheldon Whitehouse (Rhode Island)

Maine Senator Angus King, a political independent, also voted to confirm Mooty. Senators Tammy Duckworth and Thom Tillis, a Republican, did not vote.

https://newrepublic.com/post/202072/13-senate-democrats-vote-donald-trump-nominee-shutdown
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