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Miles Archer

(20,605 posts)
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:46 AM Tuesday

JULY 2025, RE: the East WIng: "I'll be near it, but not touching it, and it pays total respect."

The original East Wing, which has existed in its current form since 1942, is 12,000 square feet, while the residence is 50,000 square feet.

The demolition work comes despite Trump insisting during an executive order signing in July that his ballroom renovations wouldn’t “interfere with the current building.”

“It won’t be. It’ll be near it, but not touching it and pays total respect to the existing building, which I’m the biggest fan of. It’s my favorite, It’s my favorite place,” Trump said.

That same month, however, Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said that “the necessary construction will take place” to “modernize” the East Wing.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/federal-workers-given-secret-order-as-donald-trump-tears-down-the-white-houses-east-wing/

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JULY 2025, RE: the East WIng: "I'll be near it, but not touching it, and it pays total respect." (Original Post) Miles Archer Tuesday OP
1979: Trump promises Art Deco friezes on Bonwit Teller building will be preserved and given to the Met. tanyev Tuesday #1
Isn't it amazing... Miles Archer Tuesday #3
He tastes everything with his arse UpInArms Tuesday #6
Wake up, sheeple: It's a liar! Always has been ... LSparkle Tuesday #2
He lied. What a f'ing surprise. Liberal In Texas Tuesday #4
Weren't we informed in the incident of something being thrown out of a White House window tanyev Tuesday #5
He's not following "protocol" in any areas. Miles Archer Tuesday #7
They lie!! And then they lie again. Trump and every current republican. Biophilic Tuesday #8

tanyev

(48,133 posts)
1. 1979: Trump promises Art Deco friezes on Bonwit Teller building will be preserved and given to the Met.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:52 AM
Tuesday

Guess what actually happened to them:


When journalists inquired of the Trump Organization about the existence of the two limestone Art Deco friezes, a spokesperson going by the name John Barron replied: three independent experts had found that the works had “no artistic value” and were worth at most an estimated $9,000. According to “Barron,” the removal would have cost $32,000 and would have meant a week and a half delay of the demolition work. The alleged costs for the delay were later calculated by Trump’s side to be $500,000. The next day “Barron” was quoted as saying that the bronze latticework that had hung over the entrance to the Bonwit Teller building was also missing: “We don’t know what happened to it.” The artist Otto J. Teegan, who had designed the piece in 1930, responded, “It’s not a thing you could slip in your coat and walk away with.” “It’s odd that a person like Trump, who is spending $80 million or $100 million on this building, should squirm that it might cost as much as $32,000 to take down those panels.”

The journalists didn’t give up searching for these artworks that had been promised to the American public. Three days later, the New York Times wrote, “Repeated efforts over the last three days to reach Mr. Trump have been unavailing.” On the fourth day, the real estate developer contacted the journalists and explained that he had ordered the destruction of the Bonwit Teller reliefs himself: “Because their removal could have cost more than $500,000 in taxes, demolition delays and other expenses, and might have endangered passing pedestrians on Fifth Avenue. ‘My biggest concern was the safety of people on the street below,’ said the 33-year-old developer, who contended that cranes, scaffolding and the most careful handling could not have assured the safe removal of the cracked and weathered two-ton limestone panels from high on the building’s facade. ‘If one of those stones had slipped,’ he said, ‘people could have been killed. To me, it would not have been worth that kind of risk.'” In truth, Trump’s biographer Harry Hurt III confirmed, Trump himself ensured that the workers were told to remove the bronze latticework over the entrance with blowtorches, separate the friezes from the walls with jackhammers and break them off with crowbars, and throw them down into the interior of the building where they shattered into a million pieces. Ashton Hawkins, vice president and secretary of the board of trustees of the Met, was among those outraged and told The New York Times in June 1980: “How extraordinary. I know that there was an offer of a gift in the event that the objects could be saved. I would think that would be sufficient to guide them in their actions. We are certainly very disappointed and quite surprised.” Hawkins dismissed with a single sentence Trump’s argument that the sculptures had no value: “Can you imagine the museum accepting them if they were not of artistic merit?” “The reliefs are as important as the sculptures on the Rockefeller building,” elaborated the gallerist Robert Miller, who had assessed the reliefs earlier. “They’ll never be made again.”

Today as president Trump labels everything that doesn’t conform to his political ideas “fake news,” but he had to admit that he had adopted a false identity to explain his point of view to the public. The alleged press spokesperson John Barron, who sometimes called himself Baron and occasionally identified himself as vice president of the Trump Organization, was none other than Trump himself. In a legal proceeding in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York in Manhattan concerning the illegal employment of Polish workers in the building of Trump Tower for $4 an hour Trump admitted that he and one of his executives have used the name John Barron in some their business dealings. Outside the courthouse, he explained confidently: “Lots of people use pen names. Ernest Hemingway used one.” Sometimes he used the alias “John Miller” for statements such as those about famous women like Madonna or Kim Bassinger who supposedly wanted to meet Trump. In March 2006, Melania and Donald Trump named their son Barron.

Two contemptuous statements Trump made later in 1980 show that the Bonwit Teller affair, which did long-term damage to his reputation in New York’s intellectual circles, continued to trouble Trump. At an event in the Grand Hyatt Hotel in Manhattan, Trump, its owner, expressed his opinion about the table decorations made out of gold mylar and the lion’s head medallions over the entrance to the ballroom: “Real art, not like the junk I destroyed at Bonwit Teller.”

https://news.artnet.com/art-world/donald-trump-bonwit-teller-friezes-met-2132673

Miles Archer

(20,605 posts)
3. Isn't it amazing...
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:57 AM
Tuesday

...I was aware of that fiasco, but when it's blended into the non-stop tsunami of Trump's destruction, I'd completely forgotten about it until you shared it here.

And, that's "flood the zone" in practice, I guess. But thanks for reminding everyone that this happened, and yes, history seems to have repeated itself.

UpInArms

(53,572 posts)
6. He tastes everything with his arse
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:21 AM
Tuesday


Trump, its owner, expressed his opinion about the table decorations made out of gold mylar and the lion’s head medallions over the entrance to the ballroom: “Real art, not like the junk I destroyed at Bonwit Teller.”

LSparkle

(12,105 posts)
2. Wake up, sheeple: It's a liar! Always has been ...
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:53 AM
Tuesday

And ever will be. There should be a watermark across the screen when it spews its verbal diarrhea that it’s ALL LIES.

Liberal In Texas

(15,738 posts)
4. He lied. What a f'ing surprise.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 08:58 AM
Tuesday

I can't believe there was no way to stop this demolition start. Maybe there are no sane persons left in positions to do so.

tanyev

(48,133 posts)
5. Weren't we informed in the incident of something being thrown out of a White House window
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:17 AM
Tuesday

that work needing removal of windows was never done while the president was in the White House for security reasons?

A giant chunk of the building is now completely gone and the project won’t be finished for quite some time. How does that work? Donny just stays at MAL until it’s done? He signs an executive order that security doesn’t matter anymore?

Miles Archer

(20,605 posts)
7. He's not following "protocol" in any areas.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:24 AM
Tuesday

Imagine getting in your car and deciding that no rules apply to you. You can go as fast or as slow as you'd like, and you don't have to acknowledge stop signs or red lights. Or pedestrians. You just do whatever makes you feel good.

That's the gift John Roberts gave to Trump. He's ALWAYS felt that the rules were there for everyone else. That's nothing new. But now, he doesn't even give a passing thought to keeping his worst impulses in check, because his attitude is "Who's gonna stop me," and he's right. The Republican Congress won't. The SCOTUS won't. And the Ninth Circuit Court just smacked down the ban on his invading Portland with the National Guard. Trump demolished the facade of the East Wing and not only was nothing done about it, no one's speaking out about it (that I've seen). He just did it, got away with it, and it's one more distraction to keep us from asking "Where are the Epstein files?"

Biophilic

(6,201 posts)
8. They lie!! And then they lie again. Trump and every current republican.
Tue Oct 21, 2025, 09:34 AM
Tuesday

It’s not just trump. It’s every republican. None of them should ever be believed again. Ever!!

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