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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWe've had two No Kings marches and millions showed up
not just here, but across the world. Now what? Is anything going to happen? Will anything change? This cannot go on. We are losing our democracy a day at a time, and Trump's response is to post a vile cartoon video of himself piloting a plane and dropping poop on protesters.
Dear God, what is it going to take to stop this?

Ocelot II
(127,884 posts)Trump knows he's losing and now he's doing extreme, cornered rat stuff. It will bring him down, but as some of us old folks know from experience, movements take years, not weeks.
Grim Chieftain
(754 posts)with all the destruction he has done in less than a year. I was a kid in the 60's, but remember it well. It's frightening to be living in such a time of turmoil again.
Bernardo de La Paz
(59,743 posts)Senator Rand Paul is increasingly opposing tRump in Senate votes. Not much, but it is there.
Senate Leader Thune has signalled that he is not an automatic rubber stamp. Semi-auto, yes, but it is movement.
FoxNewsSucks
(11,380 posts)There were massive protests then also. They just don't care what we want or what we think. They don't have to care.
usonian
(21,785 posts)(Former) Prince Andrew is the first domino to fall.
The fellas are all going to get together again.
Autumn
(48,489 posts)Grim Chieftain
(754 posts)Those in power don't listen to us. It's unreal.
If nothing else, it is moving the overton window..
Bernardo de La Paz
(59,743 posts)Big things have small beginnings. Not to minimize millions of people in the streets, peacefully, but it has to become (and I expect will become) more frequent and branch out.
Alice Kramden
(2,814 posts)https://www.mackinac.org/OvertonWindow#overview
Autumn
(48,489 posts)for a few months does nothing. Except make a person feel they did something. As for thinking the overton window, that moves as slow if not slower than a glacier, will get us out of this mess we will all be dead before it does anything. We are out of time.
scipan
(2,953 posts)There are other ways. Just use canceling every business, subscription that supports trump and maga. This is 2025 not the 60's. Better ways to get the message across than standing in the streets with signs.
Bernardo de La Paz
(59,743 posts)It will take sustained protest, even during cold months. It may take national action like a general strike (work and shopping), or a sustained buyer's strike of say a week.
And maybe more.
Grim Chieftain
(754 posts)Ocelot II
(127,884 posts)but there is a lot of sustained, grass-roots work to be done to keep the excitement and support going. But getting 7 million people off their butts and into the streets is no small thing, and it also reminds Trump and the GOP that they aren't as popular as they'd like to think they are. I think the latest attempt to portray the demonstrators as dangerous Marxist-Antifa-BLM radicals who Hate America shows that they are afraid. Trump is getting weirder by the day. He's become the cornered rat, which could make him more dangerous were it not for the fact that the GOP is starting to splinter around the edges. The rallies are just part of the program, though. There's a lot of GOTV work, litigation, other messaging to be done.
OLDMDDEM
(2,840 posts)Torchlight
(5,920 posts)Grim Chieftain
(754 posts)I just know this can't continue or we won't have a country.
Autumn
(48,489 posts)disobedience, strikes, disruptions to begin with . A feel good big protest every few months isn't going to do squat.
haele
(14,767 posts)And there's a lot of empty land out there between the majority of the population.
One or two million in three large cities does not affect as many legislators as needed.
And too many Congress folks and policy wonks (and the Media) see all that "land" in a district as being a larger population compared to a city that might have two to four Congressional representatives.
Hell, there are States with a smaller population than a city like Houston or Oakland.
Heck, Wyoming and Alaska have less population than most any one of the bedroom community cities surrounding San Diego...and another three or four states have a smaller population base than the city itself.
31st Street Bridge
(18 posts)It can't be written here or anywhere else online. But we all know the answer.
Keepthesoulalive
(1,936 posts)Or cable tv. Hunger changes peoples perspective.
WarGamer
(18,047 posts)But elections do... and hopefully No Kings motivates people to VOTE.
Initech
(106,616 posts)And we need to advertise it. That's literally exactly what they did. We need to keep this momentum going.
The GOP got to where they are because they ran their people in every available office, every available position.
We need to do the same.
Grim Chieftain
(754 posts)I have been so frustrated with our Democratic leadership's somewhat bland, tepid response to the Republican/MAGA tactics. We need to stand up and fight back, really fight. There is too much at stake.
We do have some excellent voices - Pritzker, Newsome, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie, Shapiro, Swalwell - to name a few, but more need to follow their example.
It's amazing to me that Trump blew off the No Kings protests with a vulgar cartoon of him piloting a plane, wearing a crown, and dumping poop on protesters. The massive outpouring of folks turning out to protest his fetid regime should have given him pause, and been concerning, but he just laughs at us.
We need to show the fat orange felon that he who laughs last, laughs best.
Initech
(106,616 posts)What we have is a start. You know, we mocked the shit out of Glenn Beck and the Tea Party when they first started, but you know what they did? They got their people running in every available position. Not just the major positions - Congress, Senate, governors, and so on. They got them in places like city councils, school boards, sheriff's offices and so on. We need to do that too.
Movements don't just start out big, they start small and work their way up.
LetMyPeopleVote
(171,802 posts)The No Kings events were intended to send a powerful message to an increasingly authoritarian figure, who appeared rattled by the national dispatch.
If the âNo Kingsâ protests werenât such a triumph, Trumpâs over-the-top reaction to the events wouldâve been far less ridiculous. www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...
— Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-10-20T12:05:29.611Z
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trumps-top-reaction-no-kings-events-was-proof-success-rcna238603
We did, in fact, see. NBC News reported:
Crowds gathered Saturday in cities across the United States and overseas for No Kings rallies in protest of President Donald Trumps administration and to call for the defense of First Amendment rights. Protesters from Los Angeles to New York including in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and Austin, Texas flooded into streets chanting, marching and waving homemade signs, including some that proclaimed We want all of the government to work and Make America Good Again.
According to organizers, roughly 7 million people participated in No Kings demonstrations, of which there were more than 2,700. It was, by any fair measure, one of the largest and most successful one-day domestic protests in modern American history......
What quickly became apparent, however, was that the president cared quite a bit. NBC News also reported:
President Donald Trump on Saturday posted an AI-generated video depicting him in a fighter jet dropping what appears to be feces on U.S. protesters. ... The video shows Trump dropping the apparent fecal matter on someone who looks like left-wing influencer Harry Sisson and other protesters gathered in an area that seems to be Times Square in New York City.
The AI-generated video was, of course, disgusting and a timely reminder of the incumbent presidents juvenile and classless tastes, but it was part of a series of online postings, including another video featuring Trump in a crown.....
The New York Times Jamelle Bouie noted in his latest column, Nationwide protests with millions of people are a direct rebuke to the presidents narrative. They send a signal to the most disconnected parts of the American public that the president is far from as popular as he says he is, and they send a clear warning to those institutions under pressure from the administration: Bend the knee and lose our business and support.
By all appearances, none of this was lost on Trump, whose over-the-top reaction to the No Kings events offered evidence of their success: They were intended to send a powerful message to an increasingly authoritarian figure, who appeared rattled by the national dispatch.
It is clear that trump is very pissed by these protests and really believes that he is a king. trump's reactions are both disgusting and amusing
Bread and Circuses
(1,284 posts)The entire Republican Party. Until 20 or 30 republican congresspeople stage their own revolt, nothing changes.
Then , the larger issue is that there are many people just as mean and dangerous .
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Bernardo de La Paz
(59,743 posts)maxsolomon
(37,623 posts)― Samuel Beckett, The Unnamable
Skittles
(168,221 posts)BUT it does let everyone with critical thinking skills know just how much Trump is DESPISED