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Grim Chieftain

(754 posts)
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 11:17 AM Sunday

We've had two No Kings marches and millions showed up

not just here, but across the world. Now what? Is anything going to happen? Will anything change? This cannot go on. We are losing our democracy a day at a time, and Trump's response is to post a vile cartoon video of himself piloting a plane and dropping poop on protesters.

Dear God, what is it going to take to stop this?

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We've had two No Kings marches and millions showed up (Original Post) Grim Chieftain Sunday OP
Movements take time, but this is getting bigger and bigger. Ocelot II Sunday #1
I'm just afraid the country doesn't have years Grim Chieftain Sunday #3
Key is Republiconners know tRump is losing and they are starting to peel away: MTG and Massie Bernardo de La Paz Sunday #5
I don't know, I've felt this way since war criminal Bush started the illegal Iraq invasion FoxNewsSucks Sunday #2
EPSTEIN usonian Sunday #4
A protest every few months isn't going to do anything. Autumn Sunday #6
That's what I'm afraid of Grim Chieftain Sunday #8
Wrong ._. Sunday #9
You are right. Protests will build up to sustained protests and national strikes (buyers / workers) Bernardo de La Paz Sunday #11
I like that - new to me Alice Kramden Sunday #14
You are wrong. Protesting one day then go home sit on your ass Autumn Sunday #15
It tells people they are not alone. Protesters' courage gives others courage. NT scipan Monday #35
I agree DuaneT Monday #33
I think it is naive to suppose that two large protest days are going be sufficient Bernardo de La Paz Sunday #7
Not naive, just hopeful Grim Chieftain Sunday #10
Exactly. The protests are pep rallies. They're useful to get people engaged and encouraged, Ocelot II Sunday #12
I agree with you. OLDMDDEM Monday #27
What do you think it will take to stop this? Torchlight Sunday #13
At this point I have no idea Grim Chieftain Sunday #16
I'll answer that. It's going to take continuous protests, civil Autumn Sunday #17
+1 leftstreet Sunday #20
Difficult to do. Land doesn't vote. haele Sunday #21
What's it gonna take? 31st Street Bridge Sunday #18
When they can't afford groceries Keepthesoulalive Sunday #19
Protests don't change anything immediately... not in the USA WarGamer Sunday #22
We need to do what they did - get our people running. Initech Monday #23
Excellent ideas Grim Chieftain Monday #24
We need more though! Initech Monday #25
MaddowBlog-Trump's over-the-top reaction to the 'No Kings' events was proof of their success LetMyPeopleVote Monday #26
It can't stop because the orange turd has swallowed up.. Bread and Circuses Monday #28
Message auto-removed Name removed Monday #29
This message was self-deleted by its author Grim Chieftain Monday #30
It caused tRump to lose his shit and post himself losing his shit. That's "jack shit". . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Monday #32
"You must go on. I can't go on. I'll go on." maxsolomon Monday #31
it won't stop a fucking thing Skittles Monday #34

Ocelot II

(127,884 posts)
1. Movements take time, but this is getting bigger and bigger.
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 11:23 AM
Sunday

Trump knows he's losing and now he's doing extreme, cornered rat stuff. It will bring him down, but as some of us old folks know from experience, movements take years, not weeks.

Grim Chieftain

(754 posts)
3. I'm just afraid the country doesn't have years
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 11:28 AM
Sunday

with all the destruction he has done in less than a year. I was a kid in the 60's, but remember it well. It's frightening to be living in such a time of turmoil again.

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,743 posts)
5. Key is Republiconners know tRump is losing and they are starting to peel away: MTG and Massie
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 11:29 AM
Sunday

Senator Rand Paul is increasingly opposing tRump in Senate votes. Not much, but it is there.

Senate Leader Thune has signalled that he is not an automatic rubber stamp. Semi-auto, yes, but it is movement.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,380 posts)
2. I don't know, I've felt this way since war criminal Bush started the illegal Iraq invasion
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 11:25 AM
Sunday

There were massive protests then also. They just don't care what we want or what we think. They don't have to care.

usonian

(21,785 posts)
4. EPSTEIN
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 11:29 AM
Sunday

(Former) Prince Andrew is the first domino to fall.

The fellas are all going to get together again.

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,743 posts)
11. You are right. Protests will build up to sustained protests and national strikes (buyers / workers)
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 11:38 AM
Sunday

Big things have small beginnings. Not to minimize millions of people in the streets, peacefully, but it has to become (and I expect will become) more frequent and branch out.

Alice Kramden

(2,814 posts)
14. I like that - new to me
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 11:41 AM
Sunday
The Overton Window doesn't describe everything about how politics works, but it does describe one key thing: Politicians will not support whatever policy they choose whenever they choose; rather, they will only espouse policies that they believe do not hurt their electoral chances. 

https://www.mackinac.org/OvertonWindow#overview

Autumn

(48,489 posts)
15. You are wrong. Protesting one day then go home sit on your ass
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 11:45 AM
Sunday

for a few months does nothing. Except make a person feel they did something. As for thinking the overton window, that moves as slow if not slower than a glacier, will get us out of this mess we will all be dead before it does anything. We are out of time.

DuaneT

(52 posts)
33. I agree
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 02:41 PM
Monday

There are other ways. Just use canceling every business, subscription that supports trump and maga. This is 2025 not the 60's. Better ways to get the message across than standing in the streets with signs.

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,743 posts)
7. I think it is naive to suppose that two large protest days are going be sufficient
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 11:32 AM
Sunday

It will take sustained protest, even during cold months. It may take national action like a general strike (work and shopping), or a sustained buyer's strike of say a week.

And maybe more.

Ocelot II

(127,884 posts)
12. Exactly. The protests are pep rallies. They're useful to get people engaged and encouraged,
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 11:40 AM
Sunday

but there is a lot of sustained, grass-roots work to be done to keep the excitement and support going. But getting 7 million people off their butts and into the streets is no small thing, and it also reminds Trump and the GOP that they aren't as popular as they'd like to think they are. I think the latest attempt to portray the demonstrators as dangerous Marxist-Antifa-BLM radicals who Hate America shows that they are afraid. Trump is getting weirder by the day. He's become the cornered rat, which could make him more dangerous were it not for the fact that the GOP is starting to splinter around the edges. The rallies are just part of the program, though. There's a lot of GOTV work, litigation, other messaging to be done.

Autumn

(48,489 posts)
17. I'll answer that. It's going to take continuous protests, civil
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 11:49 AM
Sunday

disobedience, strikes, disruptions to begin with . A feel good big protest every few months isn't going to do squat.

haele

(14,767 posts)
21. Difficult to do. Land doesn't vote.
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 12:44 PM
Sunday

And there's a lot of empty land out there between the majority of the population.
One or two million in three large cities does not affect as many legislators as needed.
And too many Congress folks and policy wonks (and the Media) see all that "land" in a district as being a larger population compared to a city that might have two to four Congressional representatives.
Hell, there are States with a smaller population than a city like Houston or Oakland.
Heck, Wyoming and Alaska have less population than most any one of the bedroom community cities surrounding San Diego...and another three or four states have a smaller population base than the city itself.

WarGamer

(18,047 posts)
22. Protests don't change anything immediately... not in the USA
Sun Oct 19, 2025, 12:48 PM
Sunday

But elections do... and hopefully No Kings motivates people to VOTE.

Initech

(106,616 posts)
23. We need to do what they did - get our people running.
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 12:05 PM
Monday

And we need to advertise it. That's literally exactly what they did. We need to keep this momentum going.

The GOP got to where they are because they ran their people in every available office, every available position.

We need to do the same.

Grim Chieftain

(754 posts)
24. Excellent ideas
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 12:33 PM
Monday

I have been so frustrated with our Democratic leadership's somewhat bland, tepid response to the Republican/MAGA tactics. We need to stand up and fight back, really fight. There is too much at stake.

We do have some excellent voices - Pritzker, Newsome, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie, Shapiro, Swalwell - to name a few, but more need to follow their example.

It's amazing to me that Trump blew off the No Kings protests with a vulgar cartoon of him piloting a plane, wearing a crown, and dumping poop on protesters. The massive outpouring of folks turning out to protest his fetid regime should have given him pause, and been concerning, but he just laughs at us.

We need to show the fat orange felon that he who laughs last, laughs best.

Initech

(106,616 posts)
25. We need more though!
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 12:47 PM
Monday

What we have is a start. You know, we mocked the shit out of Glenn Beck and the Tea Party when they first started, but you know what they did? They got their people running in every available position. Not just the major positions - Congress, Senate, governors, and so on. They got them in places like city councils, school boards, sheriff's offices and so on. We need to do that too.

Movements don't just start out big, they start small and work their way up.

LetMyPeopleVote

(171,802 posts)
26. MaddowBlog-Trump's over-the-top reaction to the 'No Kings' events was proof of their success
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 12:50 PM
Monday

The “No Kings” events were intended to send a powerful message to an increasingly authoritarian figure, who appeared rattled by the national dispatch.

If the “No Kings” protests weren’t such a triumph, Trump’s over-the-top reaction to the events would’ve been far less ridiculous. www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-10-20T12:05:29.611Z

https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trumps-top-reaction-no-kings-events-was-proof-success-rcna238603

A few days before millions of his detractors held “No Kings” events in communities across the country, Donald Trump told reporters, “I hear very few people are going to be there, by the way.” From whom did the president “hear” this? He didn’t say....

We did, in fact, see. NBC News reported:

Crowds gathered Saturday in cities across the United States — and overseas — for No Kings rallies in protest of President Donald Trump’s administration and to call for the defense of First Amendment rights. Protesters from Los Angeles to New York — including in Chicago, Washington, D.C., and Austin, Texas — flooded into streets chanting, marching and waving homemade signs, including some that proclaimed ‘We want all of the government to work’ and ‘Make America Good Again.


According to organizers, roughly 7 million people participated in No Kings demonstrations, of which there were more than 2,700. It was, by any fair measure, one of the largest and most successful one-day domestic protests in modern American history......

What quickly became apparent, however, was that the president cared quite a bit. NBC News also reported:

President Donald Trump on Saturday posted an AI-generated video depicting him in a fighter jet dropping what appears to be feces on U.S. protesters. ... The video shows Trump dropping the apparent fecal matter on someone who looks like left-wing influencer Harry Sisson and other protesters gathered in an area that seems to be Times Square in New York City.

The AI-generated video was, of course, disgusting and a timely reminder of the incumbent president’s juvenile and classless tastes, but it was part of a series of online postings, including another video featuring Trump in a crown.....

The New York Times’ Jamelle Bouie noted in his latest column, “Nationwide protests with millions of people are a direct rebuke to the president’s narrative. They send a signal to the most disconnected parts of the American public that the president is far from as popular as he says he is, and they send a clear warning to those institutions under pressure from the administration: Bend the knee and lose our business and support.”

By all appearances, none of this was lost on Trump, whose over-the-top reaction to the “No Kings” events offered evidence of their success: They were intended to send a powerful message to an increasingly authoritarian figure, who appeared rattled by the national dispatch.

It is clear that trump is very pissed by these protests and really believes that he is a king. trump's reactions are both disgusting and amusing

Bread and Circuses

(1,284 posts)
28. It can't stop because the orange turd has swallowed up..
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 01:46 PM
Monday

The entire Republican Party. Until 20 or 30 republican congresspeople stage their own revolt, nothing changes.

Then , the larger issue is that there are many people just as mean and dangerous .

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Skittles

(168,221 posts)
34. it won't stop a fucking thing
Mon Oct 20, 2025, 02:42 PM
Monday

BUT it does let everyone with critical thinking skills know just how much Trump is DESPISED

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