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The former special counsel is speaking out against the Trump administration.
https://newrepublic.com/post/201788/jack-smith-evidence-trump
https://archive.ph/E5qUc

Former Justice Department special counsel Jack Smithwho has been tormented by MAGA for years over his dual criminal investigations into President Trump for illegal possession of classified documents and his role in January 6is pulling out receipts.
One of the major differences between the [Biden and Trump] cases is the obstructive conduct in the case that I investigated. To prove illegal possession of classified documents, you need to show that the defendant possesses the documents willfully. That means [Trump] knew what he was doing was wrong, Smith said in a sit-down interview at the University College London Centre for Global Constitutional Democracy, made available Tuesday. We had tons of evidence of willfulness.
The case Smith is referring to, in which Trump was charged with keeping classified documents in Mar-a-Lago after leaving the White House, resulted in a 40-felony-count indictment against the president in 2023. The case was eventually dropped after Trump won the election in 2024. The government even tried to get them back before there was a criminal investigation, and then after the investigation started, [Trump] still [refused] to give them back, and then [tried] to obstruct the investigation, Smith continued.
Even with this knowledge, its virtually impossible that Trump will receive any kind of consequence for these crimes, as he continues to harangue Smithcalling him a sleazebagand anyone else who dared to investigate him, like New York Attorney General Letitia James and former FBI Director James Comey.
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Baitball Blogger
(51,192 posts)Botany
(75,625 posts)and another (FBI agent Robert Hansen) died in the Federal Super Max doing 15 life terms for
doing what Trump did. The Republicans, Leonard Leo, and the U.S. Supreme Court protected
him in their rulings and in installing Cannon as a Federal Judge in Florida. If my family member
who worked in remote sensing
satellites
. were to speak of his work he would be arrested
today.
OutNow
(908 posts)Documents released in the 1990s showed that Ethel Rosenberg was innocent of the crimes she was charged with and was added to the case in order to pressure her husband to plead guilty. If you're interested in learning more about the case google "the Venona papers"
Botany
(75,625 posts)Gorbachev opened up the KGB files on the
Rosenbergs in the 1990s.
Xolodno
(7,206 posts)And Ethel with a reduced sentence, if I recollect correctly, one of the brothers was in on it as well and sold her down the river.
Soviets already had the math figured out for the bomb before anyone. Stalin was skeptical at first of it and didn't pursue it. It was only when they found out about our and Germany's development they started looking at it more closely. The spy's weren't there to steal secrets, but mainly confirm they were on the right path.
When Truman mentioned to Stalin that they had a new weapon that was capable of massive destruction, Stalin didn't even bat an eye. As almost he already knew. Even implied he hoped it could be used soon. He knew they were not too far behind.
The hubris of Truman saying the Soviets would never get it was something else. Once they found out they did, it was assumed it had to be spy's and they must pay.
samsingh
(18,196 posts)important election where Democracy was at stake.
hadEnuf
(3,434 posts)Knowingly, unknowingly or just bad judgement, this is where we are.
littlemissmartypants
(30,366 posts)bluestarone
(20,549 posts)How in the fuck did TSF squeeze out of this? I had full faith in Smith and letitia James!! (was it the Supreme court?)
maxsolomon
(37,623 posts)Aileen Cannon. Remember?
bluestarone
(20,549 posts)So even today, after we win the House and Senate, there is nothing we can do until that court is expanded to 13 judges. Correct? Edit to add that when we get control of either houses, could Smith be re-appointed to finish this investigation?
kacekwl
(8,716 posts)that this "evidence" could not have been released by Smith before the election or after the election or in the last 6 years ? Sure trump would suffer no consequences but it would be clear to those who care and those who don't that he's a criminal traitor.
It is not something he can release. It's 100% up to the AG. If you recall, that was the same thing with the Mueller Report, and Barr's bullshit when he released it. Thus, the AG has released Mr. Smith's first report, but not his second one, per the theft of documents.
Javaman
(64,694 posts)Javaman
(64,694 posts)Mr. Smith's report would have needed to be completed for the previous AG to reloease it.
Javaman
(64,694 posts)rampartd
(2,716 posts)and no help.
cannon was the judge on trump's defense team. and an active defender of treason.
the supremes, at last 6 of them. are in trump's defense team.
is it paranoia to suggest that kras nov has hooks into anyone with authority to stop his destruction? eostein tapes, no matter how they deny, seem likely.
H2O Man
(78,114 posts)blame Garland for not releasing a report that was not completed when he was in a position to do so. That might, I would suggest, that it is better to know when the report was completed.
I'm not sure what you are saying in your last sentence. But the Epstein tapes are not the felon's "secret weapon" that prevents anyone from stopping him.
flamingdem
(40,718 posts)??
rampartd
(2,716 posts)result : 2024 debacle places de facto Russian agent back into position to destroy our economy/health/defense and terrorize the world.
He did not have the report.
kacekwl
(8,716 posts)I hear.
H2O Man
(78,114 posts)Considering the files the felon stole were classified was the reason he knew better than to leak them. If he had, the DOJ would have actual grounds to prosecute him. I don't think Mr. Smith is prone to making such errors.
hamsterjill
(16,664 posts)Kind of disappointing if you ask me.
littlemissmartypants
(30,366 posts)I don't think enough of us realize how important it is to use them. Otherwise, the sh¡t going to start disappearing and we may not have access to a single syllable of truth.
❤️
H2O Man
(78,114 posts)I listened to an interview with Mr. Smith today. He is on the offensive. This is a good thing. Actually, a great thing.
calimary
(88,187 posts)Johonny
(24,904 posts)Crimes. He knows no other lifestyle.
sop
(16,535 posts)erronis
(21,685 posts)I worry about people being Epstein'd in the trump retribution crusade.
LymphocyteLover
(8,926 posts)live love laugh
(16,006 posts)The real story is why he didnt prosecute. Were his hands tied? By who?
maxsolomon
(37,623 posts)Remember Federal Judge Aileen Cannon?
oldmanlynn
(737 posts)Sure they can make excuses but they failed and now the country is paying.
I hope dems dont take another damn high road.
When they go low we need to pin them to the ground and never let it happen again.
Scrivener7
(57,497 posts)
Grins
(8,977 posts)1. Keep it up. Each subsequent public statement even more condemning, almost calling the orange useful idiot a Russian asset.
2. Repetition and media attention will force the preening narcissist who lives for revenge to lash out.
3. He will sue Smith, à la E. Jean Carroll, for defamation with damages in the BILLIONS! (Its who HE IS!!)
4. Discovery will be lit! And short. Smith already knows the evidence.
5.
Smith gets the trial he wants.
The nation finds out Trump IS a Russian tool and possible traitor.
Maybe, this time, the MAGA will realize they voted not only for a psychopath, but a traitor, too.
flamingdem
(40,718 posts)and feels free to speak out.
WestMichRad
(2,732 posts)what kind of info the orange sleaze bag and his minions are snitching this time around, to weaponize it against political opponents in the future.
LymphocyteLover
(8,926 posts)He is a fucking traitor and belongs in jail.
Goddammit this is all so fucked up.
Abstractartist
(365 posts)I also think with all this discovery, he found way more then anyone including trump knew about. I would not be surprised if he doesnt have the complete Epstein files too. Interesting how he hasnt been indicted for anything yet
. That discovery phase would be a dream to watch.
I vote for Jack Smith to preside over the new Nuremberg style war crime trials with trump, bondi, et.al
gfarber
(128 posts)There once was a counsel named Jack,
Who put Trumps whole case on the track.
With documents stashed,
And subpoenas abashed,
He found willfulnesscold, hard, and black.
Some papers were kept by the shore,
In boxes and closets galore.
Though laws were quite clear,
Trump grinned ear to ear
Then claimed they were his to adore.
Said Smith, Theres a mountain, not fluff,
Of willfulnessmore than enough!
He blocked and delayed,
He lied and he swayed,
And still said, This charge is a bluff!
Forty counts made the headlines ignite,
The facts, you could say, were airtight.
But power reclaimed,
The charges got maimed
And justice gave way to the right.
He stalled when the Feds came to call,
Said, These are mine, not yours at all!
Then shifted some files,
With signature wiles
While lawyers just stared at the wall.
Jack Smith, though composed and refined,
Is labeled with names ill-designed.
With insults and tweets,
Trump never retreats
He governs, while justice is blind.
The law says, No man is above,
Yet Trump fits that glove like a glove.
With power in hand,
He rebrands the land
And shrugs at the rules from above.