That didn't last long

[pbmus]

https://x.com/i/grok/share/GdVPCIRj5MFaD7Z67wBdYZQ0W

The Financial Times post reports Israeli strikes in Gaza killing several Palestinians, occurring just one day after a U.S.-brokered ceasefire began on October 13, 2025, following a two-year war that killed nearly 68,000 Palestinians and 2,000 Israelis, highlighting the fragility of the truce.
Israeli military claims the strikes targeted individuals who crossed a designated "yellow line" boundary, a detail supported by Al Jazeera's report of the army opening fire on a group approaching soldiers, suggesting a possible escalation despite the ceasefire's intent to enable hostage-prisoner exchanges.
Historical context from Noam Chomsky's 2014 analysis and France's 2024 accusation of 52 ceasefire violations by Israel indicate a pattern of repeated breaches, raising questions about the effectiveness of current diplomatic efforts, though no peer-reviewed studies directly address the 2025 ceasefire's specifics yet.

[marble falls]

1. It was good while it lasted.

[oasis]

2. You mean Netanyahu's not a man of his word?

[usonian]

3. That seems to come from grok, but they link to FT.

[Beartracks]

4. The ink's not even dry on all the "Trump Diplomacy Win!" stories, and it fails.

Kinda makes you think it was all for show, a theatrical production to try and finagle some Nobel cred, or to distract from the Epstein files.

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[Fiendish Thingy]

5. This is an AI summary by Musk's Grok

Don’t you have some original source reporting?

[pbmus]

7. At 300$ a year, not financially viable for me

[Fiendish Thingy]

12. If it's a true story, there will be plenty of free reporting available

See other response that includes BBC YouTube video.

[W_HAMILTON]

8. Not trusting Musk's Grok now?

Welcome to the party!

Is this reporting sufficient?

[Fiendish Thingy]

11. I don't trust any AI summaries, never have.

Some are accurate, some aren’t- they seem to scrape all available data, and report out what is most common/frequently seen on various sites.

That means a meme or clickbait or other false reporting could be accepted by AI as factual, just because it has spread profusely on the internet.

Of course BBC is reputable and reliable, and acceptable as original source reporting.

[W_HAMILTON]

13. That's a wise decision, but it then takes just a few seconds to confirm the reporting with a quick Google search.

[Fiendish Thingy]

14. My expectation is anyone posting news on DU will take that step before posting

And not expect every individual reader to fact check their post.

[W_HAMILTON]

15. Who says they didn't? And my expectation is that most DUers do not need to be fact checked...

...because we are reality-based -- not propaganda-based like MAGA -- and don't need to make up lies to further our points because there are actual verifiable stories (like this one) that support our positions.

[Fiendish Thingy]

17. The OP was a Grok summary

If the OP had read original source reporting, then they should have posted that link, not the Grok summary

.

And my expectation is that most DUers do not need to be fact checked...

Seriously?

There have been countless incidents of falsehoods being posted at DU, many making the top of the Greatest Page despite being proven to be false. It happens almost daily.

People don’t necessarily make up lies, but they post stories that say things they believe to be true, or want to be true, which then get recced without further questioning or examination.

A significant portion of the clickbait videos that get posted fall into this category.

[W_HAMILTON]

21. Yes, seriously.

Between the much more fact-based nature of DU and the apparent contrarian slant there is among those on the left who would love nothing more than to prove someone wrong, I have much more faith in the ultimate credibility of DU than I do most every other source on the internet.

[Kaleva]

23. It's my opinion that many here don't fact check

It’s common to see tweets and vids that are at best misleading and at worst, outright false. However, the DU community is very good at fact checking OPs.

[Johnny2X2X]

22. Can't believe people here are using Grok

When we know that Grok has been programmed to take everything it reports and first filter it through what Elon Musk's personal beliefs are. Grok literally gives a you an Elon Musk slant on everything.

[newdeal2]

6. Is there a Nobel peace prize technical award?

Technically there was peace for a day. Maybe he can get a little gold star sticker.

[MerryBlooms]

9. I tried to looj this up. It's all over the map with numbers and vague

Something about crossing yellow zone, but nothing concrete

[Totally Tunsie]

10. On October 9, I posted...

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20708463

[W_HAMILTON]

16. It definitely was just a reality show sweeps-week attempt at winning that Nobel Peace Prize.

[Maru Kitteh]

18. At least some hostages and prisoners got to go home. The bombing paused.

I think we all knew it was only ever going to be temporary. It was never a question of if, only when.

[taxi]

19. 3000 years went by faster than Rip Van Winkle's nap.

Tell me, how many peace prizes could someone rack up that much time?

[malaise]

20. But Hamas n/t

[Igel]

24. It's an open question, as far as I'm concerned, whether Hamas violated this term of the ceasefire.

There are multiple armed militant Islamic groups in Gaza. Could have been one of them. Israel's forbearing this violation so far, perhaps because of the grayness of the situation and eliminated the violation of the ceasefire. But documentation is building a case for terminating forbearance.

Then again, one side will listen to the first half of the news story and accept the second; the other will ignore the first half and claim that somehow it's all Israel's fault.

Consider these to have been compelled to abide by the terms of the ostensibly voluntary ceasefire. They're disarmed. Even if they're not Hamasites and didn't agree to the ceasefire--after all, Hamas is too busy imposing its armed rule, killing protestors and those who challenge its supremacy and authority to worry about disciplining allies and fellow-travelers.

[malaise]

25. The IDF is a terrorist organization that is guilty of genocide

That is all