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Why can't he be stopped legally? He went out of his way to ignore rules and laws to get his way. So far, he has succeeded. He just ignore the rules and laws and does whatever he wants. When they say fight fire with fire, perhaps it's time for the citizens of this great country to start ignoring rules and laws too. Someway, somehow, we have to get law and order back from this gross negligence.
Just today, I talked to a few democratic friends of mine. They were actually crying, saying "He's destroying our country". That is a true fact!!! Trump has turned his extreme narcissism and ignorance into a daily habit for him. It makes him happy to destroy others. And he somehow gets by with it. Since when is the office of the president allowed to grift on the American people while in office? Imagine Obama selling fake watches and guitars? NOT!!!! And when is it acceptable to allow a president to be a felon, rapist, con man? The list goes on and on.
Someone in power had better put this shit to an end legally. Yesterday would be fine.
One thing for sure, he has corrupted the DOJ, FBI, Supreme Court, and many others in power. Just look at all the fools that kiss his ring. His minions have more respect for one person(huge mistake), than the entire population and the constitution this country stands for. That in itself, is insane. Yet, we still allow it. Why? What aren't the people in power stopping this corruption?
I'm, not smart enough to figure out a fix for this, but if something isn't done soon, democracy will not come back for decades, if it comes back at all.
I suggest we document all the things Trump has done to create the corruption in our country. When we get in power again, write amendments to make sure this never happens again. A president should never have the power to do what he has done. We can start with no felons and rapists allowed here! You would be immediately disqualified.
I don't know the answer and am looking for some type of resolution to make this all go away.
I want my country back. My 1 vote in a red state is not going to do the trick.

pat_k
(12,058 posts)...presents a tough problem for we the people. Particularly as the conspirators do everything in their power to destroy every institution by which our will is measured and executed.
It is ultimately up to us to make our will known. We must stop being afraid of demanding the remedy the Constitution gave us, regardless of outcome. We must work to make impeachment a reality -- seriously work at it. Doing so is a moral imperative, win or lose. Call on candidates for the U.S. Senate and House to declare their intent to impeach, listing the usurpations and abuses. And if they will not, we need to find candidates who will, whether they be Dems or Republican primary challengers.
And frankly, Vance is a co-conspirator in all and needs to be included in draft articles.
It is long past time for a national civics lesson on demanding the people we elect to represent us actually represent our will and our interests.
William Seger
(11,898 posts)... and now we see the flaw. But the theory still is that we can correct the problem by voting. I certainly hope so.
littlemissmartypants
(30,179 posts)Abundance of hubris and naivete believing that. Not every man is born a George Washington or an Alexander Hamilton. Mathematical odds were apparently not a part of their decision making considerations.
slightlv
(6,776 posts)A national civics lesson is exactly what this country needs, although it may have to be dumbed down to the point of "Schoolhouse Rocks" for the people who need it to understand. Frankly, I would like to see a whole civics/government curriculum developed using the old Schoolhouse Rock vignettes and have them played at a certain time on all channels... free and pay... so that no one has the excuse of "missing them." The rest of us will no doubt learn a few things we didn't know along the way, and it would be more entertaining that what we have on TV at any given moment. Or, hell... just put them on as Ads... they'd be at least as entertaining as the golden retriever/car commercials! And they could play over and over and over again... just like the ads for all the ED products!
pat_k
(12,058 posts)Shutdown explainer (with kitties)
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3QzIiFI91kg
Well, less partisan, but make learning fun!
slightlv
(6,776 posts)I loved the political kitten commercials! Would love to see more like them, myself!
But I got so caught up in the Reels that followed, I sunk my entire night into them! It's now 7:30am, and I'm going to try to catch a nap before everyone gets started on their day. Thanks... I think.. (LOL)
pat_k
(12,058 posts)slightlv
(6,776 posts)You have to have some nights where it's "anything goes" and my clowder of cats LOVED the fact Mom was up and paying attention to them all night, too! I had three on my desk all night with me... one, in particular, my little rascal Bandit, watched the Reels with me. He especially loved the cats jumping and the dogs yipping. His little head was turning every which way watching the action! LOL!
pat_k
(12,058 posts)I really think she was looking for the creature making the noise.
Frasier Balzov
(4,625 posts)Let no Republican run unopposed, because the votes to stop Trump are out there waiting to be cast.
Whatever success Trump can claim, he is doing more harm than good.
It is as though the People are expected to survive on a diet of ex-lax.
Is everything to be purged?
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(1,280 posts)Totally Tunsie
(11,351 posts)I want impeachment followed by a public hanging. No joke.
Moostache
(10,842 posts)I understand the desire to see a certain piece of shit swing for his crimes, but there are a whole list of enablers and accessories after the fact that are in similar if not more dire need of hanging starting with Stephen Miller and his soulles dead eyes.
pat_k
(12,058 posts)slightlv
(6,776 posts)I remain convinced that Miller is the true cruelty architect of this administration. There are so many to choose from, but he's the one true Nazi in the group, and he has trump's ear at all times as his most trusted senior advisor. Crimes against Humanity is the worst category of criminal I can think of in a global sense, and both Miller and Trump... not to mention Noem and Bondi... fit that category as well as Hitler, Pinochet, and Marcos, IMO.
LSparkle
(12,099 posts)With apologies to Steve The Joker Miller!
pat_k
(12,058 posts)When we finally get our country back, every member of the regime who abused their office and betrayed and inflicted unimaginable harm on the people who call this nation home must face justice.
There must be prosecutions. We must not allow our electeds to pull another "let's just move on and make sure it doesn't happen again" bullshit, as when Obama refused to prosecute those who committed war crimes in our name.
And not like the refusal to prosecute Bush 1 for his complicity in Iran contra.
And so many other times leaders have refused to bring perpetrators to account and just "make sure it doesn't happen again." (The collapse of the world economy due to mortgage fraud comes to mind.)
Without accountability -- complete accountability -- the crimes against us just keep happening. And just keep getting worse.
slightlv
(6,776 posts)From the time of Ford, I don't think any one decision by the Democrats has made me any madder or more frustrated. We may be the party of good intentions, but good intentions pale when confronted by true, absolute evil. And until the Democratic PTB realize we're not in a "normal" world, we're always going to be playing pick up the sticks and clean up their messes. Frankly, I've seen enough of it in my 70 years... and I'm damned tired of it. It may call for being more creative than we've been, but there MUST be a way to stay true to our ideals and still fight fire with fire.
Prosecutions... jail... treason convictions mean capital punishment, just as they did in the 1950's and before. We have history, we have precedent on our side. There is simply no excuse except lack of will. Love is the Law; Love under Will.
Totally Tunsie
(11,351 posts)lame54
(38,628 posts)rubbersole
(10,734 posts)The Koch Network took 30 years to devise this nazi type takeover of our democracy. Getting rid of accountability is step one. We're at step four. Ownership of the media and control of all the common information platforms is going to be the key to their success. People in the streets will be what stops them. For now. See you Saturday with the patriots who haven't been brainwashed. It's showtime.
slightlv
(6,776 posts)right now... not just turning over! He spent his entire adult life fighting "old man" Koch and the family... even to the detriment of his business. He didn't care. Fighting their evil was more important than a lost customer here and there, in his mind. I hope he sees his great-granddaughter fighting just as hard as he did, and is proud of me. I only wish he were here fighting beside me, hand in hand, right now. I only knew him for the first 4 years of my life, much too short a time to know the man for whom I was the apple of his eye... the man who gave me my Indigenous heritage and love of the Earth.
struggle4progress
(124,926 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(4,687 posts)Instead
..crickets.
Were stuck with these fascists indefinitely.
tanyev
(48,093 posts)Because it would take a significant number of elected Republicans to agree that he needs to be stopped and so far most of them are totally cool with what hes doing.
slightlv
(6,776 posts)that republicans are never on THEIR side. The one common cause, and the leader both sides have in common, is Bernie Sanders and his "road show." I hate calling it that, but he's getting the word out and his rallies are always full and overflowing. They bring together both the Right and the Left in common cause... against the corporate overlords. WHY is no one younger picking up on his energy and his causes and running with them for the current time? I know AOC has been instrumental in his rallies. But I don't know of anyone else. And I adore AOC... who she is, where she comes from, how she puts herself out there. But I'm also cynical about Americans; they will never accept a woman as a true leader of anything important to them. I hate it; I detest the misogyny. I really wanted to see a strong female president before I die. But stupid Americans being who they are, I will accept a man who can keep his pants zipped and who has the fire and fervor of righteousness like Bernie. Or have ALL the younger ones been too steeped in the "New Way", "Third Wave" "Centrist" democratic philosophy... to the point they forgot the fire and quiet anger of FDR? Or the fire and brimstone of LBJ?
MLWR
(609 posts)One reason is that our corrupt, illegitimate SCOTUS is made up of 2/3 Enablers of trump. And they are the end of the line as far as legality goes. Another reason is that in order to get rid of him through the congress, we need a majority in the House to impeach and 67 votes in the Senate to convict and remove and so far the republiSCUM are standing with him and supporting him.The greedy-@$$ billionaires are using their billions to bribe members of the congress and the SCOTUS to implement their wishes and feed their greed with votes and rulings respectively. This is what we are up against and why he won't be stopped "legally."
OMGWTF
(4,930 posts)NO KINGS rallies are happening all over the world this Saturday, October 18th. Go to www.nokings.org -- find your local tribe, make a sign, and show TF up. This is NOT a drill!
Cirsium
(3,033 posts)How do the No Kings rallies stop Trump?
slightlv
(6,776 posts)by having No Kings Rallies all over their countries, as well. This is how we turn back the fascists and authoritarian governments worldwide. A full and complete uprising of the people everywhere.
We have stood by people in the past... we've said "We're New York". We've said "We're Haiti"... we've said "We're the Arab Uprising." It'll be nice to see signs saying "We're America" now.
PatSeg
(51,146 posts)But it would be "Democratic" friends who belong to the "Democratic" party. Republicans intentionally use the noun Democrat as an adjective to be insulting.
Though I agree people should fight back, I think ignoring the rules and laws as they do will only serve to undermine our democracy. There is nothing to fight for if we just become like them.
Tom Dyer
(284 posts)Im living here now, and sometimes I just start crying when walking my dog.
Its so incredibly hard to watch the switch to The Diary of Anne Frank happening. And how quickly it happened.
The future for The United States does not look even remotely bearable, and I believe its already gone for a very long time, so Im crying again.
Thank you Panama for being a normal place to live, and DAMN Im so lucky. And I realize that.
MerryBlooms
(12,071 posts)Now, there's a peace agreement for the week, in Gaza... Idiot Thumbs Up! Leaders forced to take pictures with trump.
Grim Chieftain
(707 posts)I ask the same questions each and every day. It appears the safeguards are gone. I like to be hopeful and optimistic, but the reality of our current situation is beyond horrific. It appears there are no Republicans left who put country above power. We are living in very, very dark times.
MadMike47
(164 posts)sop
(16,468 posts)"Corruption has become the currency of power. Cruelty isnt just tolerated anymore; its celebrated, televised, monetized, weaponized. Lies are mass-produced, traded like stocks, and sold back to the people they were meant to deceive."
"Outrage has become the new religion. Empathy is dismissed as weakness. Truth bends to the will of the powerful while decency slips toward extinction. The Trump administration parades deceit as strength, dresses greed in the language of God, and sells division as patriotism to a nation too exhausted to notice its being robbed blind."
"And at the center of it all are men like Trump and Vance and their merry band of feckless enablers, men who treat hate as heritage and ignorance as armor. Men who gorge on power for its own sake, who mistake cruelty for charisma, who see compassion as a threat. Theyve turned moral decay into political theater and fear into an economy. They build their kingdoms out of bitterness, dress it up as courage, and call it freedom."
"But make no mistake: what they worship isnt just power. Its poison. And the only way to stop it from spreading is to keep fighting for...a world lit by truth, held together by compassion, and sustained by people who refuse to surrender their humanity."
- Joanne Carducci (JoJoFromJerz)
SocialDemocrat61
(5,987 posts)for over 50 years. Trump is not the cause. He is the symptom of a sick political party
LilElf70
(1,142 posts)I totally agree.
Orrex
(66,198 posts)then the people will find other means of effecting change.