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Florida Is Facing the Biggest Collapse in U.S. History (Original Post) catbyte Tuesday OP
Oh no! It is Hosea 8:7 again! Oh no! Who could have known!? Oh no! RockRaven Tuesday #1
Oh, good grief, what a pile of shit.horse * Biophilic Tuesday #2
I will tell you now that Canadians are not coming back and I doubt many Europeans are either. Many owned houses Bev54 Tuesday #7
I agree with you and agree with Canadians and others. Biophilic Tuesday #11
Yay Canada & Europe! We Need to Get Cha Tuesday #20
Sorry to tell you, but the insurance rates are only going to get worse NickB79 Tuesday #18
backed by statistics NJCher Tuesday #3
Wow! malaise Tuesday #4
No it isn't. flvegan Tuesday #5
Nothing is selling here in Oregon either Tree Lady Tuesday #6
And yet they'll keep electing idiots like Desantis because they refuse to acknowledge how terrible MAGA is. Initech Tuesday #8
Are we electing them? hannah Tuesday #10
Something is definitely rotten in the Sunshine State. Initech Wednesday #21
needs more hysteria lol nt msongs Tuesday #9
How about "In addition to everything else, Godzilla stomped all over WPB. Not covered by insurance." Wonder Why Wednesday #22
;Florida has always been a boom and bust state Warpy Tuesday #12
Florida will soon be LilElf70 Tuesday #13
5th generation Floridian here PCB66 Tuesday #14
Agree 100%. Everything south of Orlando should be allowed to return to it's natural state as a giant wetland river n/t Cheezoholic Tuesday #16
A lot of aquifers are being contaminated by saltwater from rising seas as well NickB79 Tuesday #19
Tourists won't return until there is "regime change"! BlueWavePsych Tuesday #15
"The American Dream Is Dead!" czarjak Tuesday #17

Biophilic

(6,163 posts)
2. Oh, good grief, what a pile of shit.horse *
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 02:05 PM
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I made it through almost 3 minutes and than gave up. Yes, Florida is having a major real estate crisis, but it has more too do with insurance rates being way to high for most people to afford. This is NOT Florida's busiest time. Next winter and spring are prime tourist time in Florida. Please, if we are going to have a crisis report at least stick with the basic facts. I don't know what else this said because I simply couldn't stand the video. Yes, Florida tourist season is going to be way down, but lets not get ahead of ourselves. January through April is prime tourist season. That's a few months away.

Bev54

(12,960 posts)
7. I will tell you now that Canadians are not coming back and I doubt many Europeans are either. Many owned houses
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 03:01 PM
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or condos and have sold and others leased condos for the season. Do you know whose tourism was up by 30% this year? Canada's. Provided a lot of jobs too. Many European countries also saw an increase or stable tourism over the past year. I have several friends who spent the winters in Arizona and they are choosing Mexico or other warm destinations but will not be coming back to the US.

Take a look at tourism in Las Vegas, Arizona and Florida also California and you will find tourism is down, it is just that Florida is just so fucking arrogant about it, so gets more attention.

Biophilic

(6,163 posts)
11. I agree with you and agree with Canadians and others.
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 03:44 PM
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What I didn’t agree with was the wrong information in the video. I hate these sensational grab your attention with whatever nonsense we can spout. Give me the truth or at least something close to the truth. Otherwise we’re only slightly better than the republicans.

NickB79

(20,133 posts)
18. Sorry to tell you, but the insurance rates are only going to get worse
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 10:36 PM
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With the reality of climate change throwing hurricanes and rising seas at the state, there is no plausible way forward that doesn't see insurance premiums price most of the state's residents out of their homes over the nest 25 years.

Floridians will become climate refugees fleeing north.

NJCher

(41,742 posts)
3. backed by statistics
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 02:15 PM
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Last edited Tue Oct 14, 2025, 07:20 PM - Edit history (1)

I watched the entire video and it's backed up with research. The question is whether politicians should be allowed to call the prime tourist trade names (the main one in question is "parasites " ) because it creates ill will. Videos of low and no traffic on the boardwalks then further intensify the message that there's something wrong with FL.

The video illustrates that it's small business and wage earners who pay for it in lost customers and hours.

flvegan

(65,375 posts)
5. No it isn't.
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 02:22 PM
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Didn't watch the video, wouldn't consider watching the video. But, from the headline alone (along with mandatory stupid graphic with GIANT COLORED ARROW) I can tell it's untrue.

Tree Lady

(12,802 posts)
6. Nothing is selling here in Oregon either
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 02:25 PM
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Homes use to sell within a few months, a few homes I see on my dog walk have been up for sell for almost a year, I live in neighborhood of best elementary school in town so homes normally go faster. One of the homes is near me at the smaller middle class homes and other upper mid class home with pool. Both are in great shape and if times were ok should have sold.

I think Florida is getting hit with higher mortgage rates, very high or no insurance allowed so cash sale with no insurance? A lot of people out of work, all goods and services cost more including gas and electricity and groceries. Then healthcare, with the cost going up so high no one can afford a new mortgage.

Canadians have sold their winter homes there and people are mad at Disney.

Initech

(106,550 posts)
8. And yet they'll keep electing idiots like Desantis because they refuse to acknowledge how terrible MAGA is.
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 03:07 PM
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Initech

(106,550 posts)
21. Something is definitely rotten in the Sunshine State.
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 12:49 AM
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Time to find out what, but I'm willing to bet good money that a certain NEWS CORPORATION has something to do with it.

Wonder Why

(6,274 posts)
22. How about "In addition to everything else, Godzilla stomped all over WPB. Not covered by insurance."
Wed Oct 15, 2025, 11:46 AM
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Warpy

(114,045 posts)
12. ;Florida has always been a boom and bust state
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 04:06 PM
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Having said that, I think a lot of what's driving the bust are the stupid tariffs. The Canadian dollar has a ridiculously low exchange rate right now, meaning Canadians are getting very poor value for their money. They might find Florida familiar without much of a language barrier, but King Pond Scum has made destinations elsewhere look much more attractive.

Tucson, Phoenix, and Las Vegas were big destinations for winter retirees out here, I wonder how they will do this year.

This is all going to get worse before it gets any better because the King must go, taking his tariffs and hate with him, and that will take time.

So if you've ever harbored dreams of retirement in a pit like Florida, wait a couple of years, real estate prices should be firmly down the pan by then and you can pick up a place for a song. The boom cycle will come again, you can sell for an obscene profit and then retire someplace nicer.

LilElf70

(1,142 posts)
13. Florida will soon be
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 04:09 PM
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a thing in the past. Many major cities are already experiencing flooding from rising tides. Gee, it don't take a brain surgeon to fuigure out whats coming. I say, sell now and get what you can, while you can.

Rentals in Ft Myers beach are 1/4 of that the normally are. They still haven recovered from the last 2 hurricanes.

The writing is on the wall. GET OUT.

I knew this decades ago. Florida is a nice place to VISIT!!!

PCB66

(54 posts)
14. 5th generation Floridian here
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 04:36 PM
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To me this is not a bad thing. Florida is very close to having major water supply issues. 20+ million population plus several million tourists a year is just not sustainable.

The water supply comes mostly from underground aquifers. That supply is is quickly being depleted because of all the growth. In the 1960s (before Disney) if you dug a one foot hole in the ground it would fill with water. Nowadays in many places you have to go hundreds of feet down to get water.

Peninsular Florida basically has a four month wet season and an eight month dry season.

If people don't come here or move away it is not a bad thing for the environment and sustainability.

I know, it is selfish to say that but that is the reality.

Cheezoholic

(3,379 posts)
16. Agree 100%. Everything south of Orlando should be allowed to return to it's natural state as a giant wetland river n/t
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 05:53 PM
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