Republicans are going to win the 2026 and 2028 elections. They are not going to leave it up to the voters.

[Botany]

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It will not matter how bad Trump and the Republicans screw over America, it will not matter how many
people that die in America and around the world because of their policies (@ least 1 million have died in
Africa because of USAID cuts in 2025), it will not matter how unpopular their agenda is with the voters,
and it will not matter if the Democrats get more votes.

June, 2024. Trump said: "Christians, get out and vote, just this time. "You won't have to do it anymore. Four more years, you know what, it will be fixed, it will be fine, you won't have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians."

Thanx to DUer fullduplexx for posting this:

Former Republican election official buys Dominion Voting -- a target of 2020 conspiracy theories


DENVER -- DENVER (AP) — Voting equipment company Dominion Voting Systems, a target of false conspiracy theories from President Donald Trump and his supporters since the 2020 election, has been bought by a firm run by a former Republican elections official, the new company announced Thursday.

The newly formed company, Liberty Vote, also vowed to follow the executive order Trump signed last spring seeking sweeping changes to election policies that multiple judges have put on hold for violating the Constitution.
The release from the new company vows to reintroduce “hand-marked paper ballots” and adjust company policies to follow Trump's executive order on voting procedures, which is not in effect because judges have ruled that Trump doesn't have the power to mandate them. Part of the president's order sought to prohibit voting equipment that produces a paper record with “a barcode or quick-response code” — equipment that is currently in use in hundreds of counties across 19 states.

Former Republican election official buys Dominion Voting — a target of 2020 conspiracy theories - ABC News https://share.google/nBYX2HqctHnlmcRLS

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2024 explained over 4 million voters were removed from voting by a Republican group called “True
the Vote”, another 1 to 2 million were removed by the U.S.P.S. and various Boards of Elections for
things like signature matching problems.

However the big thing that let Trump act like he knew he had already won it during the campaign was
that in 2021 Eaton bought Tripp Lite which allowed for the placing of “firmware patches” on both E.S.&S.
and Dominion Voting Systems’ central tabulators and operating systems and these firmware patches
allowed remote monitoring, programming, and manipulation of the voting data via Musk’s Starlink
D.T.C. (direct to cell) which he turned on 10/30/24 meanwhile Peter Tiel and Palantir were running an
A.I. program called “Digital Janitor” which did not flip or delete votes but hid any electronic fingerprints
of that happening and Harris got a huge under vote in 2024 and then the Republicans and our media could
sell the lie that Harris just wasn’t that popular and turn out the vote but she did turn out the vote but millions of those votes were deleted or flipped.

D. Trump said on more than one occasion in ‘24 that he didn’t need any more votes and Musk bragged about having a special application that let him see the results early.

[Lovie777]

1. And yet We the People may win......

[Chasstev365]

5. I think plans for a general strike need to be formulated ASAP.

Let Republicans see 100's of million of people peacefully bring Wall Street and the government to a halt.

I can dream, can't I?

[OMGWTF]

50. No Kings Rallies this Saturday, October 18th all over the World.

www.nokings.org -- Find your local tribe, make a sign, and show the fk up. This is not a drill!

[calimary]

83. It's not a drill. It's a MUST DO!!!

My Indivisible group will be there, which means I’ll be right there with ‘em.

[PatrickforB]

42. Back in the day, when the plebians in Rome became disgusted by the overweening greed and lust

for temporal power of the aristocracy, the would just simply leave Rome. Because they did all the work for the greed-lizards running around in Senate togas.

[Dave Bowman]

77. They were a clever bunch when it came to show solidarity for a just cause.

[Ocelot II]

2. So should we just give up, then?

[gab13by13]

4. Bob Casey should have challenged his result, for one.

[Alice B.]

33. I made ballot curing calls after that race and was so frustrated by the process I gave up

I knew that race was *so* important, I shoved my anxiety aside to make calls. I did two shifts and found two people who were happy to take the next steps. The rest was awful thanks in part to the auto dialer set-up. There was no time to figure out how to pronounce names and I had a lot of Spanish speaking folks on my list. So if you call from an unfamiliar number and mangle someone’s name, you can’t really blame them for hanging up on you or being hostile. I was glad to get a text asking for feedback because I had a lot and am really heartbroken to think how many good ballots I was missing out on.

[Zackzzzz]

69. Growing up, people always mispronounced my last name

and now the same with my married name.
I have worked face to face most of my life and
I just say, Forgive me, how do say your name.
Not sure how I would do it on the phone.
I remember saying San Josie for San Hosay, [San Jose, CA]
I had to look up ballot curing.
I had no idea.

Thank you for your efforts.

[Alice B.]

86. Thank you! I didn't know what ballot curing was either until this election!

I just was so frantic after everything that I was desperate to do something.

You offer a good way to handle a complex-looking name. I’m going to remember that. In the moment, something about the set-up felt like jumping on a moving train.

[Polybius]

105. Now the election denialism goes with Casey too?

Who's next, John Tester and Sherrod Brown? Did we lose any election legitimately?

[hlthe2b]

8. So, you are joining MAGA out of a sense of pending defeat? Why are you here then?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

9. Pwning the libs?

[synni]

37. Sounding the alarm

We have to face reality. Fascists do not give up easily.

[BannonsLiver]

39. Apparently non fascists give up pretty easily though.

If this thread is any indication.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

55. I missed it, but probably LG again,

she's been quite active these last few days, but MIRt has her number and she's usually tombstoned quickly.

MIRt taking out the trash.

[hlthe2b]

70. Yes... Not one of her typical avatars, but, maybe...

[NJCher]

56. I don't understand the haste in

handing it over to republicans.

One would at least think there's a strategy that could be employed, but apparently the OP doesn't. Thus the "give up" mentality.

Wow.

[Cirsium]

68. Yes

I think so. When what we are doing isn't working, we need to let go of it and try something else. Our commitment to the results is more important than our commitment to the process. The process has been thoroughly gamed and corrupted.

[Ocelot II]

73. What is that "something else"?

[ahlnord]

88. the obvious -- paper ballots, hand-counted

I was an election judge years ago and loved running the precinct election and counting the ballots. It is what the U.S. did since its beginnings, up to the early 2000's. It is what many other countries STILL do. It is considered the "gold standard" to hand-count ballots. That is what we do when there is a challenge to the results due to discrepancies or if the result is within the margin of error.

Do not be fooled by those who say it is too cumbersome to hand-count. Each precinct is small enough to be counted by hand after the polls close on election night. When completed, the results are publicly posted on the door to the voting place. The numbers are no more difficult to manage than the votes in a large high school election -- do-able.

It is clear that the high-jacking of our votes today occurs at the tabulation level, when the paper ballots are fed into a machine to be counted. (Electronic voting, with no paper ballots, is another matter!) We should take that counting step back into our own hands. It would re-instill a confidence in our elections, a confidence that has been lost.

[gab13by13]

3. Yup, it's only getting worse,

Numbers tell the story from the last election, Krasnov got a surge of votes on election day, but only got those surges in battleground states.

There are pretty graphs that clearly show the anomalies from the battleground states compared with the rest of the states.

Republicans are the minority party, in a democracy there is only one way they can win.

Gore Won
Kerry Won
Kamala Won

Not even sure they will have elections if we are still being ruled under the Insurrection Act?

[tritsofme]

22. Do you think Kamala is just too dumb to know she really won? Or is she keeping quiet for some reason?

Making her part of a “cover-up”?

Not sure what other options there are for election deniers?

[BannonsLiver]

32. Apparently this grand conspiracy goes back to 2000

But they took 2008, 2012 and 2020 off. They also took off for the 2006 mid terms, the 2018 mid terms and the 2022 mid terms. They also took off the special senate election in AL that Doug Jones won. In 2024 they rigged the presidential election but forgot to rig a host of down ballot races, including the 2024 AZ senate race. Kari Lake must be so mad!11. They also forgot to rig the special election between Warnock and Herschel Walker. And all of the recent special elections Dems have won. Sad!

[FBaggins]

23. That isn't true

Most states shifted to the right and the battleground states generally shifted less than the rest of the country (as one might expect given the spending in those states).

Many of the largest shifting counties in the country were in CA/TX/FL - which were never in play.

[gab13by13]

28. Your post doesn't address what I said.

My post is about a surge of votes for Krasnov on election day.

[FBaggins]

44. That wasn't true either

There was a nationwide increase in election-day voting... since the last presidential election occurred during a pandemic.

It wouldn't be at all surprising to learn that the states where the last-minute campaigning occured were also the ones with the largest surge... but I haven't seen that. Either way it certainly wasn't "just the battleground states".

[BannonsLiver]

27. Four Seasons Total Landscaping vibes.

Where’s Rudy and his hair dye!

[hlthe2b]

7. Apparently in some minds. This infuriates the hell out of me. We can certainly report what is going on that increases

our challenge, but damn if I want to see DU turn into a long litany of "it's hopeless" posts sans any challenge whatsoever by those making the OPs.

I think some think they get extra points for being beyond negative in the guise of being "realistic." Hopefully some will take THAT to heart...

[gab13by13]

11. If I truly believe that Kamala Harris won the last election,

from looking at the statistics, from looking at the anomalies, from looking at the purged Democrat voters and votes, what should I say?

I get attacked by Democrats if I claim that Kamala won, I cannot accept that the last election was fair.

Why wasn't there a big investigation into the Kerry/Bush election where a computer programmer admitted to sending tabulated ballots from Ohio to a wareshed in Tennessee? I understand the programmer died in a small plane crash on his way to DC to testify, but dammit, there was more than one person involved in that stolen election.

History tells me that Republicans steal elections and get away with it. Isn't the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result?

Wife and I will certainly vote and I donate to candidates and the ACLU and Indivisible.

[hlthe2b]

18. Your issue, your post is NOT what I'm concerned about. You aren't (essentially) telling us all to GIVE UP

All bets are off with this MAGA crowd in terms of what they HAVE done or WILL do. Clearly. We redouble our efforts and hope KARMA or whatever "good" forces might still be called upon, intelligence, common sense, will power, masses of united people, and what I hope will be a cohesive strategy going forward...

[Botany]

21. That was Michael Connell and he died when his small plane crashed on his return from D.C. to Akron, OH

He was scheduled to give a deposition about his work with the Ohio’s Sec. of State’s
in 2004 where he came in on Election Day and sent all the I.T. staff home @ 8:00 pm
and then shipped the Ohio’s election returns to Chattanooga, TN after which Kerry’s
lead vanished.

Authorities blamed the crash on icing in the fuel lines when the air temp was 43 F.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/republican-it-guru-dies-in-plane-crash/

[gab13by13]

29. Thanks for the clarification,

I guess it would have been up to John Kerry to raise hell about this, but where was the rest of the Democratic party crying bloody murder.

What would Republicans have done if this situation was reversed.

Then Al Gore was OK with W's brother stopping the vote count in Florida which would have given him the win. Why didn't he scream bloody murder?

What would Republicans have done if the situation was reversed?

[IbogaProject]

61. I heard that K Rove suggestion they can pull this on races that are close

But not if the margin gets over a certain amount. Might have to do with the statistical doublechecks in the tabulation process. Or he might have been reffering to preelection registration cancelations in key states.

[Botany]

98. Florida had a huge problem in 2024 with voter's registration being rejected because they didn't have the right

I.D. even though when that voter registered he or she had the right kind of I.D. which was checked
as valid by the voter and whoever was working to register the voter > 1/2 a million “vote being counted
were put at risk” and this was done by Republicans.

https://thiswillhold.substack.com/p/she-won-part-x-vr-systems-151-fake

[PortTack]

76. Exactly...these kinds of posts drive Dems away...including me.

[Chasstev365]

10. Whenever and where ever possible

Americans in all 50 states should use PAPER BALLOTS!

I've not trusted electronic voting machines since Saxby Chambliss beat Max Cleland in Georgia in 2002.

[Silent Type]

52. Yeah, Lyndon Johnson would approve. He allegedly won his very first election by fraud (Johnson or his campaign).

The "Box 13" scandal refers to alleged voter fraud--

AI Overview
The "Box 13" scandal refers to alleged voter fraud in the 1948 Democratic primary election, which secured Lyndon B. Johnson's victory and propelled him to the U.S. Senate. Author Robert Caro detailed the fraud in his biography of Johnson, focusing on a specific ballot box from Jim Wells County, Texas.

[Chasstev365]

53. It's much easier to flip computer votes

[Silent Type]

65. Not so sure if done right.

[Orrex]

12. Hmm...

[Keepthesoulalive]

13. What do you propose?

[SunSeeker]

87. And that's the problem with these doomsday posts. They never offer a constructive solution.

All these kind of posts accomplish is to encourage people to give up, making it a self-fulfilling prophesy.

I'm not giving up. Fuck that. Neither are millions of others. There is strength in unity.

[Keepthesoulalive]

94. Sometimes I feel we are TikTok light

First with the doom and no solutions.

[Torchlight]

14. Regardless, I'll vote and work to get out the vote

The rest is noise I can do little about other than dismiss.

[S/V Loner]

15. It is not a "done deal" but I will say this...

They know that they cannot afford to lose as they also know they are vulnerable to actual prison terms once they are out of power with no one to protect them. They will do whatever is necessary to protect themselves.

[gab13by13]

30. Who will we get to prosecute, Merrick Garland?

[Justice matters.]

85. Pedofelon will issue blanket pardons for all of them.

Or the couch effer will if pedofelon died before the mids or 2028

[kentuck]

16. There is no doubt in my mind...

...that if they can find a way to do it, they will. The laws be damned.

[Silent Type]

17. I'm voting and I'm telling everyone to ignore fear that one's vote won't count. That's counterproductive, IMO.

[BannonsLiver]

19. I think I'm going to go ahead and vote anyway, if that's okay.

This is just low grade FUD. Nectar for cowards.

[JustAnotherGen]

20. Unless we don't allow it

magapubs have a serious taste for violence.

If even 10% of that cult wakes up - they will turn on the magapub regime. . . with violence.

[tritsofme]

24. This is just defeatist doomer nonsense.

[Botany]

36. This not defeatist nonsense but reality. Btw I have done election protection work for 20 years.

CNN: Former GOP election official buys Dominion Voting Systems, says he’ll push for paper ballots

Scott Leiendecker, the founder of a Missouri-based election technology company who previously served as the Republican director for the St. Louis City Board of Elections, purchased the company this week for an undisclosed sum, according to a press release.

“As of today, Dominion is gone. Liberty Vote assumes full ownership and operational control,” the press release reads.

Leiendecker says he wants to use the renamed company to restore public confidence in the US electoral process. Liberty Now also vows to be bipartisan as it works to reshape Dominion’s image. Dominion’s election products were used by millions of US voters across 27 states last year.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/09/politics/dominion-voting-systems-bought-election-ballots

Liberty Vote owned by Republicans to restore confidence in the electoral process naming itself “liberty”
is like the guards @ the concentration camps telling the people they are just going to get a shower
after their long train ride.

Btw @ no time did I tell or ask anybody not to vote.

[EdmondDantes_]

67. Sure, because saying it's hopeless definitely isn't discouraging people to vote

I mean what's more motivational than "nothing you do matters because it's rigged"?

You definitely aren't doing vote protection work with this. The people I think of as doing vote protection work like Marc Elias or Democratic elected officials aren't saying anything about elections being rigged? Weird that.

[hamsterjill]

89. Do you honestly think that anyone on DU is going to be persuaded NOT to vote?

People who are active on a political website are going to be most likely to get out and vote, don't you think?

So what's your point? If someone has a problem with a thread, trash the thread and move on. Don't like doom and gloom? Then exactly HOW are you existing in the world as it is right now? Because very much of it is gloom and doom BECAUSE OF Donald Trump. He cheats! We all know that, and most of us would put NOTHING past him.

If we can foresee what they might do, we might be able to do something about it.

[PortTack]

78. Yes it is. Sounding an alarm fine. This is not sounding an alarm it's totally deflating.

So you worked in elections, a lot of us have as well.

[progressoid]

25. So I just started working as a poll worker.

Maybe I'll infiltrate the inner workings of the cabal and get back to everyone with some intell.

[samplegirl]

26. Damn scary

Never give up!

[EdmondDantes_]

31. So you believe two known liars?

Musk has been saying for 10 years Tesla will have full self driving across the country. Hasn't happened. Also there's no evidence that Starlink was capable of changing votes which you've repeatedly had explained to you.

https://www.factcheck.org/2024/11/musks-starlink-was-not-connected-to-vote-tabulation-contrary-to-online-claims/

Trump doesn't care who people vote for after the 2026 election because it won't matter to him.

[Bluestocking]

34. Didn't we just pick up a seat in the House

Why was she allowed to win which will result in release of Epstein files

[BannonsLiver]

35. Oh they just took that one off.

Like they did the 2008, 2012 and 2020 presidential elections along with the 2006, 2018 and 2022 mid terms. They’re very selective about which elections are fixed.

[themaguffin]

38. I translate ALL of these bullshit things as "hey don't vote. Your vote won't matter." Fuck that. Don't comply in advance

[BannonsLiver]

41. That is the exact purpose of the post.

FUD

[Botany]

46. Where did I say not to vote?

[themaguffin]

48. "Republicans are going to win the 2026 and 2028 elections. They are not going to leave it up to the voters."

by default, voting would be meaningless. Words matter.

[bluestarone]

58. I'm here to say i'm on your side on this. ( I know you did NOT say don;t vote)

I have the same fears you do, and want to make sure that to me EVERYONE should be aware to keep all eyes and ears open in Nov. 2026. These monsters have proven time and time again they CANNOT ever be trusted.Vote and help others vote like we never voted before!! 2026 WILL be the year of many questions answered.

[themaguffin]

91. We are all on the same side I hope, but we should not use defea language that implies voting is pointless or...

...otherwise suggests there's no point. It's dangerous and harmful. We can be vigilant and alert while remaining determined to win.

[bluestarone]

93. Well, again i feel you read his words way different than i do, but

YOU do You.

[themaguffin]

95. Ok, the OP says that the GOP has already won, so how else is one supposed to read it?

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so drop the "you do you" stuff. Either the election is already done or it's not - it's not both.

[Fil1957]

40. They'll definitely try, but it's not a fait accompli. The more opposition there is, the harder it will be for them to

succeed. And if things keep moving in the same direction, there'll be tons more opposition to their policies a year from now.

[Initech]

43. We are fascist for the foreseeable future.

It is going to take a truly drastic change in society in order to wake up from the damage MAGA, Fox, the Heritage Foundation and the Federalist Society are doing to our country. Unless we change something, it's going to get much worse. Worse regimes have been toppled. We can topple MAGA.

The biggest X factor is the rise in fascism around the world. Two certain shit stirrers (Bannon and Musk) are helping flip formerly free democracies to fascism. They will need to be dealt with and given the prison sentences they very much deserve.

[Botany]

57. Fascism is when the state's power structure, business, media, and societal institutions push allegiance to

one person or party by the use of authoritarianism in both the written law and law enforcement
entities. And finding a groups of “others” to persecute along with manipulation of free and honest democratic voting is other indicators of fascism too. Also outright lies are useful for fascists too
@ all the nonsense about the terror threat America is under from ANTIFA something from as near
as I can tell doesn’t exist. During the summer of “black lives matter” protests it seemed to me @ least
that the majority of ANTIFA people were white people trying to stir up shit and in reality they were
MAGA type of people.

[Initech]

63. All of that is true. And look at how formerly reliable sources have become ass kissing propaganda outlets.

Look at Time Magazine. Look at the LA Times, Washington Post, CBS, and so on. It's truly frightening how much the press has been flipping and rushing to kiss Dear Leader's worthless ass. When we lose the free press, we are done as a country. Freedom of speech and freedom of the press are two fundamental rights that shouldn't be tampered with.

[Botany]

96. CBS' has a legacy of outstanding journalism but that is now gone.

Cronkite, Eric Sevareid, Murrow, Connie Chung, Rather, and so on would not be welcomed @ this
new pro Trump pro Fascism leadership.

[Initech]

97. JoHn Oliver's take down of Trump's new personal baby monitor is amazing.

Fuck Bari Weiss! I love that John Oliver is exposing the propagandists!

[Hotler]

45. Wow. Money over country. Dominion sells to the fascist knowing the danger to the country and it's citizens.

(snip) Dominion’s former CEO confirmed the sale in a single-sentence statement on Thursday: “Liberty Vote has acquired Dominion Voting Systems,” John Poulos said.

(snip) The announcement from the new company does not disclose the cost of the transaction,

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Technology/wireStory/former-republican-election-official-buys-dominion-voting-target-126383033

They're sure tight lipped about this. I wonder if people were threatened in order to sell.

[Aviation Pro]

47. No, they are fucking not

I’m getting awfully fed up with these doom and gloom posts. We still have a chance to overwhelm the voting process if we start directing our anger toward winning these elections rather than give up and quit.

The No Kings rallies will be a clear bellwether as to what is going to happen next November.

[popsdenver]

49. Same type of thing took place in the WBush

elections, as I remember.......EIS? voting machines, were owned and operated by an Uber Rich Republican, and his machines (from Ohio?) were used across the entire U.S.

A month before 2000? election day,, he was broadcasting to the Media that He Guaranteed that Bush would win......

Another Uber Rich Republican now owns the massive numbers of voting machines......

[Quiet Em]

51. We have two huge elections coming up in just 21 days

NJ and Virginia Governors

[H2O Man]

54. Nope.

[BlueTsunami2018]

59. I keep saying that fascists don't leave, ever.

You can’t vote them out and they don’t give a shit about planned protests.

This has to get really ugly before it ends. But people aren’t ready or willing to get into that. Hyper normalization of all this fascist bullshit sees to it.

[Blue Owl]

60. They will try to CHEAT to win -- they always do

[oldmanlynn]

62. In every state that uses dominion voting systems, there should be big protest against this

We need to have an all out effort after no Kings day next weekend, where we start protesting in all the states that have and used dominion voting systems and protest that fiercely so that we prevent the Republicans from owning the machines and the process that we use for voting

[delisen]

64. Given your analysis, what is your plan of action?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

66. Well, you've convinced me to stay home on election day and to just give up and let the repigs

have their way without a fight.
Just in case this is needed.

[Lonestarblue]

71. Democratic states using Dominion equipment should refuse any software updates.

The updates may be harmless, but given the company is now owned by a partisan Republican who describes election integrity using Trump’s terminology, suspicion is merited.

[czarjak]

72. "My Christians"?

Not how that works! What say you, Jesus? Thought so!

[karin_sj]

74. 100 percent agree

And nobody is telling anyone to give up. Just the opposite. This means we have to get out the vote in huge numbers; work harder to try to ensure accurate, fair elections; and to call out any shady, suspicious results as they happen. We're fighting a large, well-funded, aggressive machine that doesn't care what they have to do to retain power and avoid being held accountable for their crimes. The 2026 and 2028 elections (if we even have them) are going to be very very difficult to win no matter what (in my opinion).

[PortTack]

75. You are giving up ahead of time! STOP it!

Read Dr Timothy Snyder book on tyranny. You’re breaking the very first rule

[democratsruletheday]

82. bingo....WEAK minded and pathetic thread

disgusting to see this kind of apathy. Buck the fuck up!!!!!

[Botany]

92. Praemonitus Praemunitus. Never did I say not vote or to just give up.

The saying "to be forewarned is to be forearmed" means that if you know about a potential problem or danger in advance, you can prepare for it and be better equipped to handle it. This proverb suggests that advance knowledge provides the opportunity to take preventative measures, mitigate risks, or simply avoid being taken by surprise. It is a proverb that has been around since the 1500s, possibly originating from the Latin phrase "praemonitus, praemunitus".

[Nigrum Cattus]

79. They ain't gunna win shit -

They will try every way possible to steal it but the vote
will be massively against them.

[KS Toronado]

80. Is there anything we can do as a party to insure an accurate vote?

Been rumors for years that the E S & S voting machines were being used to keep Moscow
Mitch and Susan Collins in office. ES&S is owned by republicans and now republicans are
buying another voting machine company.

And when we add in all the anomalies from the last election, we need a 50 State plan to
catch voting fraud.

Would it be possible to have exit polling at every polling site and when things don't add up
properly it shouldn't be too hard to find Judges that would side with us?

[agingdem]

81. we're absolutely going to win and this is why...

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Trump's voters are bearing the brunt of his economic destruction...his tariffs have bankrupted farmers/ranchers...and because of Trump's inhumane deportation of migrants (seasonal workers) fruits/vegetables are rotting in un-gleaned fields...the housing market is stagnant, no one can afford to buy a new car, seniors are watching their retirement funds disappear, and the middle class is struggling to feed their children..

so Republican voters will do what they always do when the economy turns to shit...they will hold their noses and vote Democrat, tasking them with cleaning up Trump's sewer...and when their lives return to something resembling normal.they will once again fuck themselves and vote Republican because, to paraphrase The Scorpion and the Frog, that's who they are..

[sop]

84. I'm going to vote, and urge others to do the same. it's what I've always done. What else is there to do?

[bluestarone]

90. Just wondering here. Are these machines used THIS November?

What states use them?

[Groundhawg]

99. We are not election deniers.

[tritsofme]

106. The folks embracing conspiracy theories about the 2024 election certainly are.

[Kaleva]

100. Interesting that you didn't say if you are going to vote in 2026 or 2028

If you believe what you say is true, I would think you wouldn’t be wasting your time participating in what you think is a scam.

[Botany]

103. I have NEVER SAID I will not vote or discouraged others from voting.

However the reality of Republicans having the control over our voting apparatus in America
is grim.

[Kaleva]

107. If you believe the outcome is rigged, why are you voting then?

[Martin Eden]

101. The word you're looking for is "steal"

Not "win"

[returnee]

102. I have virtually zero faith...

… in election laws and election machinery. Without radical revision of the system the repubs will be at the very least favored or assured control of state and federal government. The problem is the only way to prevent this is through (fair) voting. A bit of a catch 22.

[yellow dahlia]

104. Exactly!

And part of the con to make that all work is to convince people of a narrative that creates excuses for why Harris lost. (btw, same tactic used on 2016, re: Hillary.)

Harris didn't lose because she is black. Harris didn't lose because she is a woman. Harris didn't lose because of Gaza. Harris didn't lose because there wasn't enough time for a campaign. Harris didn't lose because there should have been a primary. Harris didn't lose because Joe should have bowed out earlier. Harris didn't lose because a few men stayed home. Harris didn't lose because of her cackle.

HARRIS DIDN'T LOSE!

It is important to understand that the next election has to leave no margin for error. All possibilities of some silly imagined excuse have to be eliminated. I wish this weren't true, bit for now it is. We need to save Democracy. We need to re-establish a free and fair election process. And then we can "take chances". We need a mandate! With a mandate they can't hide their cheating and the margins it creates.

I believe Joe Biden was able to show enough of a mandate that the cheating and rigging couldn't take hold.

And meanwhile, let's keep the consultant class away from the Democratic contenders in 2026 and 2028. The old ways will not work in this climate.

And next time(s) - Paper Ballot Hand Recounts.

The mandate is already visible - look at all the recent special elections. We have some Governor races coming up - they will be another barometer.

P.S. The don't work as hard at the special elections and local races.