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Baitball Blogger

(51,127 posts)
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 08:45 AM Tuesday

The meme going around social media is that the current Gaza peace deal, is the

same one that Biden brokered.

The timeline is that Neti went to mar-o-lago before the election and cut a deal with Trump to wait until after the election to accept the deal, so it would obviously impact Biden negatively.

If you remember, Trump said he would end the war on day one.

But, it didn't happen probably because Neti wanted to annihilate the Palestinians. I believe the casualty numbers were 67,000.

I think Neti conceded now because European countries were coming forward and recognizing Palestine as a state and world approval of him was tanking.

And Trump was there for photo finish, not just to get credit, but also because Kushner is brokering deals.

Not sure how much of this is factual, but I am trying to imagine what Trump thinks he's going to get away with after his term, because I don't think either Trump or Neti has a future as free men after they step down.

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The meme going around social media is that the current Gaza peace deal, is the (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Tuesday OP
67000 is about 3.3 pct of population. Equivalent to impact of 10 million Americans being slaughtered. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Tuesday #1
factual or not.. it's 100% believable. mountain grammy Tuesday #2
It won't be to the general public FBaggins Tuesday #3
That's exactly the gopedo MO. Clouds Passing Tuesday #4
Like Reagan and the hostage deal? progressoid Tuesday #5
Yup. Baitball Blogger Tuesday #6
And Nixon and the Paris Peace deal in Vietnam...nt Wounded Bear Tuesday #8
My thoughts also popsdenver Tuesday #13
Europe is way late to the game... ananda Tuesday #7
Remember Florida 2000 ananda Tuesday #19
Also influencing the timing - Qatar's plane bribe to Trump, followed by the Israeli attack on Hamas in Qatar muriel_volestrangler Tuesday #9
More realistic to assume the worst, as opposed to benefit of the doubt. OF COURSE they manipulated timing. nt wiggs Tuesday #10
the hostages have been released and a cease fire exists rampartd Tuesday #11
67,000 dead Palestinians say, too little too late. Baitball Blogger Tuesday #12
we will never hear about the next time rampartd Tuesday #18
If true, someone from the Biden camp needs to confirm and cough-up evidence SpankMe Tuesday #14
Could we get a non-militaristic, non-expansionist, party in Israel too? AloeVera Tuesday #17
This message was self-deleted by its author Nevilledog Tuesday #15
It could be true. Truth-seekers are unlikely to get definitive information. hay rick Tuesday #16
"After they step down" Maru Kitteh Tuesday #20
Bibi only wants Trump to help pardon him... AntiFascist Tuesday #21

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,595 posts)
1. 67000 is about 3.3 pct of population. Equivalent to impact of 10 million Americans being slaughtered. . . . . nt
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 08:51 AM
Tuesday

FBaggins

(28,479 posts)
3. It won't be to the general public
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 09:09 AM
Tuesday

The meme version pretends that Israel was the only thing holding up peace and a meeting at MAL paused that…

… but few in the center are going to buy that Biden should get credit almost a year after the election. Particularly when the crux of the deal is a bunch of Arab countries saying it’s Trump’s peace plan.

popsdenver

(648 posts)
13. My thoughts also
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 11:43 AM
Tuesday

Everything old is new again......................HWBush CABAL committed Treason to do the exact same thing........and it wouldn't be the only Treasonous thing he and his cronies would do in the coming years.............

AND why wouldn't they do it again?????? Treasonous has worked before: 1980, 1984, 1988, 2000, 2004, 2016, 2024 ????????????????

ananda

(33,610 posts)
7. Europe is way late to the game...
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 10:49 AM
Tuesday

since fascists are now brokering the
so-called "deal."

This was also the case with the USA
and Trump, and between free western
nations and Hitler.

ananda

(33,610 posts)
19. Remember Florida 2000
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 04:36 PM
Tuesday

The day after the Brooks Brothers banged on the door,
the streets of Miami should have been flooded with
persistent protesters.

Instead all we got, a few days later, was a tepid march
led by Jesse Jackson.

muriel_volestrangler

(104,989 posts)
9. Also influencing the timing - Qatar's plane bribe to Trump, followed by the Israeli attack on Hamas in Qatar
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 11:30 AM
Tuesday

Trump was pissed off that Israel attacked Qatar, targeting the Hamas negotiating team, when that was the place that had "given" him a plane (albeit one the US would have to spend money on. The important thing is he gets to play with it after his term). So he told Netanyahu his time to kill Gazan civilians was up.

wiggs

(8,501 posts)
10. More realistic to assume the worst, as opposed to benefit of the doubt. OF COURSE they manipulated timing. nt
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 11:33 AM
Tuesday

rampartd

(2,657 posts)
11. the hostages have been released and a cease fire exists
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 11:39 AM
Tuesday

the deal with neti is obvious and will last until next time.

Baitball Blogger

(51,127 posts)
12. 67,000 dead Palestinians say, too little too late.
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 11:42 AM
Tuesday

"Until next time." Let's hold our breath.

rampartd

(2,657 posts)
18. we will never hear about the next time
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 03:09 PM
Tuesday

unless we can get this hostile takeover off of our media.

i was going to doubt this one bit the hostages have been released.

SpankMe

(3,614 posts)
14. If true, someone from the Biden camp needs to confirm and cough-up evidence
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 11:46 AM
Tuesday

In the absence of a credible leak form the Biden camp, I'm not buying-in to the swirl on this.

This "deal" was sudden and offered no details of the negotiations that led up to it or that Trump had anything to do with the negotiations. My guess (totally uninformed) is that Trump found some advantage to himself if that conflict could come to an end and threatened Bibi with a weapons cut-off if he didn't make a deal.

I'm happy that the surviving hostages are now free and the bombing is paused, but I was disappointed to see Hamas immediately taking on police duties in Gaza. My understanding is that the last national/major election there was 2006, and Hamas won the most votes, but not a majority. Further, Hamas hasn't allowed an election to be held ever since.

My sense from reading many articles on this over the last year or so is that Hamas is less popular today than they were in 2006 and that, perhaps, a less militant party could get more votes than Hamas if elections were held today.

In any case, Hamas has to go. A non-militaristic party has to run things and the world community needs to recognize and materially support that new party.

AloeVera

(3,868 posts)
17. Could we get a non-militaristic, non-expansionist, party in Israel too?
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 12:13 PM
Tuesday

Otherwise the Palestinians are just sitting ducks waiting for the next genocide.

Agree with your other comments though I would add I'm also happy that 1,700 Palestinians from Gaza - including about 300 women and children - were also freed yesterday from Israeli prisons where close to 100 have died due to systematic torture, starvation and denial of medical treatment.

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/ohchr-press-release-17sep25/

Response to Baitball Blogger (Original post)

hay rick

(9,106 posts)
16. It could be true. Truth-seekers are unlikely to get definitive information.
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 11:53 AM
Tuesday

The scenario the OP describes is certainly consistent with the character of Trump and Neti and consistent with the history of the Republican Party. I expect that the Biden administration set up the framework. There are probably small variations in detail that could be used to support the claim that it's a new plan. I also think that Biden, Blinken, and their team want to see something work and will refrain from claiming whatever credit is their due.

I am skeptical that Trump will ever be brought to justice. I would not object to simple, nasty karma as a substitute.

AntiFascist

(13,686 posts)
21. Bibi only wants Trump to help pardon him...
Tue Oct 14, 2025, 11:55 PM
Tuesday

or to stay in power while Israel is at war, but that hopefully won't happen.

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